Jaylen Brown..NBA superstar?

[max215]

I think he'll be very good. I believe in his tools and work ethic, so I don't want to put a ceiling on him, but I could see him hitting that All-Star level. I'm not sure if he'll ever be a dominant scorer, but 18-22 PPG, 6-7 RPG, and excellent defense is definitely possible.

[max215]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Yea, if he's Iggy he'll likely be the second-best player out of this weak class.

[rollie mass]

none of those comps matter
he is our rookie and he will make a great celtic-hardnosed on defence and an all around threat on offense
-the boy is special he is in the right place with right coach
he has avery and crowder,horford and marcus--even green
he is being tempered and forged to be a real weapon based in team,celtics tradition
he passed on dunk contest to get better and he has-he will be part of a playoff experience and he aquitted himself against lebron and cavs twice

[green_bballers13]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Tremendously underrated.  Everyone thinks of "stars" as the Curry's and Lebron's of the world, and that every top-5 pick should be judged against that. 

If Jaylen matches a career like Iggy's I will be ecstatic.

Sixers fan here, can confirm.

Jaylen has looked a lot better than I thought he would. He was terrible at Cal, and I hated him as a prospect coming out.

Jaylen wasn't terrible at Cal. He just didn't look like the #3 pick. Danny saw through his lack of production in the workouts, realizing he was an NBA ready athlete capable of improvement.

As a prospect, he was solid. Many of the scouts ranked him as a top player after four years of high school AND one year of college. He was thoughtful in interviews and widely considered to be a top talent with a solid work ethic. I think it's weird to "hate" him as a prospect.

[Eddie20]

@Mike_Schmitz
Jaylen Brown last 10 games: 17.4 PTS and 7.7 REB per 40 on 56% from 2 and 40.7% from 3. In a league hungry for good wings, Cs got one at #3.

Brown a great case for importance of taking college situation into account. Had no space @ Cal. Must scout pre NCAA.

[Sketch5]

Superstars like Jordan, Bird and LeBron had an immediate impact as rookies, changing the fortunes of their teams overnight.  Jaylen has not shown this in his rookie year, he has been more inconsistent.  Jimmy Butler seems like a better comparison.

While I agree on the Butler comparison, you have to remember Jordan and Bird didn't come out after their freshmen year. A lot of those guys didn't come out until junior or senior year. Lebron is a rare case, even KG wasn't lighting it up. Two more years of College ball could make a huge difference. Your body matures, and you get a better feel for the game. You go from playing with kids to playing with men in one year, you most likely will struggle.

[chambers]

Brown can start at 2 or 3 right now

He is not out of place.. has the strength...already a tier 1 level talent in terms of quickness/explosiveness

Soon there needs to be a decision on Crowder. Either he accepts a role off the bench or gets traded

I think we'll have more of an idea  after the draft. If we Fultz, he'll probably play 2 and Jaylen will back uo crowder off thr bench. Remember after this season Crowder only has 2 more years on his deal.

True

But if Brown is the better talent he should start/finish games sooner than later

That is not true - Crowder's contract runs for three more years through the 19-20 season.

And please please please let's stop talking about trading Crowder. We are about to have a VERY expensive roster (after next season). He is quite possibly the best value non-rookie contract in the whole league. He is up there with Jaylen in the untradable category. Danny has no incentive to move him.

   
2016-17      2017-18     2018-19    2019-2020
$6,286,408   $6,796,117   $7,305,825   $7,815,533
Yes let us not dimish DAs and Crowders masterpiece agreement.

Wow, what an amazing deal for us.

[saltlover]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Tremendously underrated.  Everyone thinks of "stars" as the Curry's and Lebron's of the world, and that every top-5 pick should be judged against that. 

If Jaylen matches a career like Iggy's I will be ecstatic.

Sixers fan here, can confirm.

Jaylen has looked a lot better than I thought he would. He was terrible at Cal, and I hated him as a prospect coming out.

He was first-team All-Conference and the Freshman of the Year.  If he was terrible, I can't imagine how bad the rest of his conference was.

[loco_91]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Tremendously underrated.  Everyone thinks of "stars" as the Curry's and Lebron's of the world, and that every top-5 pick should be judged against that. 

If Jaylen matches a career like Iggy's I will be ecstatic.

Sixers fan here, can confirm.

Jaylen has looked a lot better than I thought he would. He was terrible at Cal, and I hated him as a prospect coming out.

He was first-team All-Conference and the Freshman of the Year.  If he was terrible, I can't imagine how bad the rest of his conference was.

Terrible an overstatement, but his freshman year production was widely viewed as disappointing considering how good he was before college. He wasn't able to score efficiently in the half court. He's definitely been better in the NBA than you'd expect from his college production alone.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Tremendously underrated.  Everyone thinks of "stars" as the Curry's and Lebron's of the world, and that every top-5 pick should be judged against that. 

If Jaylen matches a career like Iggy's I will be ecstatic.

Sixers fan here, can confirm.

Jaylen has looked a lot better than I thought he would. He was terrible at Cal, and I hated him as a prospect coming out.

Jaylen wasn't terrible at Cal. He just didn't look like the #3 pick. Danny saw through his lack of production in the workouts, realizing he was an NBA ready athlete capable of improvement.

As a prospect, he was solid. Many of the scouts ranked him as a top player after four years of high school AND one year of college. He was thoughtful in interviews and widely considered to be a top talent with a solid work ethic. I think it's weird to "hate" him as a prospect.

He was pretty bad man.

If I just showed you clips, and you didn't know his HS ranking this notion that he was good at Cal would be really different.

And that's why context matters, but still the kid looked lost on defense, couldn't shoot and really didn't get to the basket with anything other than brute athleticism.

In the NBA I think the space has helped him work on the little stuff like footwork, going into moves off receiving the ball, etc.

One of the many reasons the one and done rule is dumb. This kid should have been learning these skills in the NBA last year.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Tremendously underrated.  Everyone thinks of "stars" as the Curry's and Lebron's of the world, and that every top-5 pick should be judged against that. 

If Jaylen matches a career like Iggy's I will be ecstatic.

Sixers fan here, can confirm.

Jaylen has looked a lot better than I thought he would. He was terrible at Cal, and I hated him as a prospect coming out.

He was first-team All-Conference and the Freshman of the Year.  If he was terrible, I can't imagine how bad the rest of his conference was.

I mean in terms of overall College bball players I am now realizing terrible was a bad adjective. But in terms of an elite prospect? Yeah, no. His statistical projections were really bad, and his game tape was ugly there.

He looked completely lost on defense, he couldn't throw a rock in the ocean and his moves to the basket basically relied upon the "I'm a better athlete than the other 9 guys" principle which typically fails hard at the NBA level.

Kudos to the kid. He's gotten a lot better, seems to have a good head on his shoulders and looks like a keeper. Credit to Ainge too, the 3rd pick in the 16 draft was a total landmine of an asset.

Edit: Fixed a typo

[Boris Badenov]

Too early to tell.

That said, he's better than I expected especially in his rookie year. I think it's worth noting that he's shown no rookie wall issues, perhaps because he's been brought along slowly.

I think the best thing you could say about him is that there's no obvious limitation to his game, that is not fixable. (To see what I'm saying, KO is a great example of someone who has obvious physical limitations. So does AB.)

To think we have a fighting shot at the ECF, a top-3 pick who's in rookie of the year consideration and the two most valuable draft picks of 2017 and 2018...I believe this is what they mean by "catbird seat."

[slightly biased bias fan]

I don't care what any GM say's it is truely a crap shoot when it comes to drafting rookies that become 'superstars' no one knows how good players can become with a few exceptions (Lebron, AD, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt ect.) Ainge would have know he had intangibles which is code for educated guessing. If you look at the history of Superstars in the NBA there were many doubts about them as players throughout their career.

Jordan- thought to be only a scorer and was almost traded multiple times
Barkley- too small, lazy & fat
Bryant- worked out for Boston (including others) & decided not to draft him
Curry- too small, tweener, not a playmaker ect.
Draymond- was thought he could be a solid bench player
Harden- great 6th man but thats it
Durant- too skinny
Leonard- Pop stated he didn't really want to trade George Hill for him

[mctyson]

I have seen him compared to Iguodala. If he reaches that level it will be great for this franchise.

Iggy's career is super underrated. He's been really good for a really long time.

Yea, if he's Iggy he'll likely be the second-best player out of this weak class.

And that's all you can hope for - get a player who is as good as you could have selected, or better.  The draft is tough enough as is but when you are selecting top-5, picking a bust hurts real bad for a long time (see Darko over Melo).

I can definitively say Jaylen is not and will not be a bust, and he looks like he could be an All-Star.  Time will tell.

[KGBirdBias]

Can Brown become similar to Jordan?

I remember seeing MJ in college and his first few years in the NBA and I see alot of similarities.

MJ could score but his shot needed improvement. He could get to certain spots on athleticism, but needed to work on his ball handling so he could get any shot he wanted. He could jump out the gym and his body type was made for basketball.

I'm seeing glimpses of this same thing in Brown. Will he become MJ, I doubt it but it he's 70% of MJ, we have a HOF on our hands.