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Quote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:16:24 PMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on February 21, 2017, 05:13:40 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.Demar Derozan is Butlers **** and Butler has had as much success against Lebron as anyone outsid Kawhi Leonard.The idea that he struggles against good wings is completely falseDude this isn't true. I posted Butler's stat's against elite teams and made it into a thread topic....Not my fault you didn't read it.Did you by chance do one of PG13? (And yeah I saw that Butler vs. elite teams thread earlier as well)
Quote from: Ilikesports17 on February 21, 2017, 05:13:40 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.Demar Derozan is Butlers **** and Butler has had as much success against Lebron as anyone outsid Kawhi Leonard.The idea that he struggles against good wings is completely falseDude this isn't true. I posted Butler's stat's against elite teams and made it into a thread topic....Not my fault you didn't read it.
Quote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.Demar Derozan is Butlers **** and Butler has had as much success against Lebron as anyone outsid Kawhi Leonard.The idea that he struggles against good wings is completely false
Quote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.
Quote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....
Quote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.
Jimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.
Quote from: Phantom255x on February 21, 2017, 05:18:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:16:24 PMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on February 21, 2017, 05:13:40 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.Demar Derozan is Butlers **** and Butler has had as much success against Lebron as anyone outsid Kawhi Leonard.The idea that he struggles against good wings is completely falseDude this isn't true. I posted Butler's stat's against elite teams and made it into a thread topic....Not my fault you didn't read it.Did you by chance do one of PG13? (And yeah I saw that Butler vs. elite teams thread earlier as well)From what I remember, PG13's wasn't great either tbh, but that was before he went on the mini-tear he has been on now. This has been a down year for George.
Quote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:16:24 PMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on February 21, 2017, 05:13:40 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.Demar Derozan is Butlers **** and Butler has had as much success against Lebron as anyone outsid Kawhi Leonard.The idea that he struggles against good wings is completely falseDude this isn't true. I posted Butler's stat's against elite teams and made it into a thread topic....Not my fault you didn't read it.I saw the thread and it proved Butler was worse against elite teams. This is not surprising. He still put up like 21/6/3 with decent efficiency and a winning record.Furthermore the thread didn't have any defensive analysis if I recall correctly. So even if you believe that 21/6/3 vs elite teams is actually bad, it doesn't address defense which is the argument I was making.
Quote from: Ilikesports17 on February 21, 2017, 05:22:23 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:16:24 PMQuote from: Ilikesports17 on February 21, 2017, 05:13:40 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:12:05 PMQuote from: tankcity! on February 21, 2017, 05:10:29 PMQuote from: oldtype on February 21, 2017, 05:06:45 PMQuote from: Who on February 21, 2017, 05:06:20 PMJimmy Butler = More refined and efficient offensive game. He has surpassed P.George.He's definitely the better player now, but George fits our system much better. His shooting numbers could go through the roof with all the open shots IT/Horford get him.Sure, if you look at only this year and don't include his playoff performances or Elite D on elite players like Derozan, Lebron, etc. I've seen Butler getting burned left and right by elite players. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room...He exerts most of his energy on offense now....So does Paul George.Demar Derozan is Butlers **** and Butler has had as much success against Lebron as anyone outsid Kawhi Leonard.The idea that he struggles against good wings is completely falseDude this isn't true. I posted Butler's stat's against elite teams and made it into a thread topic....Not my fault you didn't read it.I saw the thread and it proved Butler was worse against elite teams. This is not surprising. He still put up like 21/6/3 with decent efficiency and a winning record.Furthermore the thread didn't have any defensive analysis if I recall correctly. So even if you believe that 21/6/3 vs elite teams is actually bad, it doesn't address defense which is the argument I was making.You can take a look on his defensive stats, they're not elite, but defensive metrics are really misleading. So I don't think it's a proper tool to use.