I thought Danny Ainge was an an average drafter....

[safecracker]

Based on what?  Danny Ainge isn't even mentioned in this article.

The article also fails to mention Isaiah Thomas, a fantastical outlier in the 51-60 pick range, at all.

Also claims #3 pick Derrick Favors and #19 pick Tobias Harris were "second round outliers". Someone hasn't done their homework.

[TheSundanceKid]

Come to to find out he is downright terrible

https://tartansportsanalytics.com/2016/12/21/finding-value-in-the-nba-draft/

Is this a cheap plug for an article you wrote?

[hwangjini_1]

The post requires the response to "agree" or "defend" Ainge's record.

As has been pointed out 12,000 times, Ainge is plunking along with lower draft position in comparison to "some" of his peers.

Presti is a far better drafter because Harden, Westbrook and Durant were out of reach of Ainge's "balls."

So Presti is better except for one small detail...no title...lotsa highlight reels though. His teams got highlight reels to watch till your eyeballs drop out. Harden cranks out highlight reels at his NEW team too...shazzam!

So Presti gets the "Highlight reel generating players picked in the draft award" and the "average drafter" gets a title.

I don't think I like this line. 

[GratefulCs]

I don't think I'm special I actually try to see what fits the situation and no most people did not have avery bradley even near us until rumors started coming out.

Chad Ford had hiim going way later until the bandwagon started rollling in and it was reported we were interested.

haha


I'm just a regular guy


I put my pants on one leg at a time just like everybody else

[IDreamCeltics]

He IS an average drafter I think. His results aren't especially good, but they're not especially bad either. 

By my count he's drafted:

1 generational talent -
Rondo - He's the best pure passing point guard of his generation.  You can say a lot negative about him, but Rondo in his prime was a force.  Dwayne Wade at the height of his powers literally had to "unintentionally" dislocate Rondo's Elbow on the court to stop him in a playoff series.

1 All star caliber player -
Al Jefferson - Injury prone, but in his prime a nightly 20-10 threat in an era when both post scoring and rebounding were things big men were still expected to do.

3 solid starters -
I'd name Avery Bradley, Delonte West, and player 3.  I tentatively have Rozier as player three (I think he's the next extremely solid Ainge pick), but if you love Marcus Smart, Tony Allen, or Jared Sullinger so much that you feel they deserve to be in that spot, I'm cool with that... I'll give you one of them, but just one don't get greedy.   
 
6 specialists that would find a role on most teams -
This is where I'd put Marcus Smart, Tony Allen, Glen Davis, Jared Sullinger, Kendrick Perkins, and Kelly O.  I don't think any of these guys provided the complete game you're looking for from a lottery pick, but they could start on the right team and be fine.  On most teams they'd at least find a role and on some teams they'd fill out the end of the bench, but would still wind up with some minutes.   

1 Jaylen Brown -
Some people love Jaylen Brown!  Some people hate Jaylen Brown!  I have no idea if he'll be good or not, but how about those dunks! 

A bunch of JAGS and busts - Many of these players are close to my heart Leon Powe, E'twuan Moore, Marcus Banks, Brandon Hunter, Ryan Gomes, Justin Reed, Gerald Green, James Young, Lester Hudson, and Gabe Pruitt are all players I was still talking myself into until as recently as yesterday.

While you can look back at Ainge Drafts and look at some very depressing misses, I think if you rate him against all other GM's he's at least an average drafter.  Is that in itself disappointing?  Maybe, but with the aforementioned track record I think it's hard to argue he's flat out horrible.

Your thoughts? Lists?     

[CelticsJG]

Rondo no generation talent...Stop.

[GratefulCs]

All i know is that everything constantly changes

If brown or one of these nets picks become a star, we'll all be singing a different tune


If all of the nets picks bust, then he'll be viewed as a poor drafter

Or we might not keep any of those draft selections



I personally think he's pretty dang good at finding talent later in the draft. It's always hard to do. But he's selected legitimate contributors to contending teams multiple times late in drafts

[Moranis]

Based on what?  Danny Ainge isn't even mentioned in this article.

The article also fails to mention Isaiah Thomas, a fantastical outlier in the 51-60 pick range, at all.

Also claims #3 pick Derrick Favors and #19 pick Tobias Harris were "second round outliers". Someone hasn't done their homework.

yeah there are all sorts of problems with that analysis.  Like he doesn't account for draft day trades, so he gives Dallas credit for KO even though that was a Boston selection.  A pretty amateur analysis all the way around.