I thought Danny Ainge was an an average drafter....

[walker834]

I don't think I'm special I actually try to see what fits the situation and no most people did not have avery bradley even near us until rumors started coming out.

Chad Ford had hiim going way later until the bandwagon started rollling in and it was reported we were interested.

[walker834]

What ainge is doing isn't hitting singles.  I don't think many people even  understands what ainge does. How many people even had Bradley as a pick? I did but my iq is way up there.

We are a top team in the nba and have some of the most underrated players around.

IT was the last pick in the draft.  Ainge saw this.

His picks are more than singles.  It's more like ainge is in another world than most people.

yeah you arent special
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Avery-Bradley-5285/mock-draft-history/

also if Ainge loved Isaiah Thomas he would have picked him instead of Etuan Moore (a solid pick in his own right)

those mocks are funny because look at the dates.  He was not even a target by most people until it was rumored we were interested.

[BitterJim]

I don't think I'm special I actually try to see what fits the situation and no most people did not have avery bradley even near us until rumors started coming out.

Chad Ford had hiim going way later until the bandwagon started rollling in and it was reported we were interested.

Draft express had him going at #14 at the beginning of June and #18 going into the draft.  We took him at #19

Source

[BitterJim]

What ainge is doing isn't hitting singles.  I don't think many people even  understands what ainge does. How many people even had Bradley as a pick? I did but my iq is way up there.

We are a top team in the nba and have some of the most underrated players around.

IT was the last pick in the draft.  Ainge saw this.

His picks are more than singles.  It's more like ainge is in another world than most people.

yeah you arent special
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Avery-Bradley-5285/mock-draft-history/

also if Ainge loved Isaiah Thomas he would have picked him instead of Etuan Moore (a solid pick in his own right)

those mocks are funny because look at the dates.  He was not even a target by most people until it was rumored we were interested.

That was around the time of the draft combine.  Do you really think it's more likely that people hearing that the team with the #19 pick were interested in him made him jump to #14 than him impressing at the combine?  Give me a break.

[walker834]

I don't think I'm special I actually try to see what fits the situation and no most people did not have avery bradley even near us until rumors started coming out.

Chad Ford had hiim going way later until the bandwagon started rollling in and it was reported we were interested.

Draft express had him going at #14 at the beginning of June and #18 going into the draft.  We took him at #19

Source

If you look at draft express's mock drafts they have every pick right for every draft.  Those aren't their mocks.

go do a search on their 2010 and 2011 mock drafts. They have every pick right.  It's hte actual draft. Their mocks weren't that. Those sites do last minute corrections too.

A lot of drafts did have AB up there as it got closer to the draft yes.

Chad Ford is one that didn't.  I remember that.

[Boris Badenov]

Based on what?  Danny Ainge isn't even mentioned in this article.

The article also fails to mention Isaiah Thomas, a fantastical outlier in the 51-60 pick range, at all.

Yeah, and the charts they had were either useless (The only meaningful info you can get from Figure 2 is that as points go up, assists generally go up as well, which isn't helpful - both increase based on minutes played, and coloring based on when they were drafted gets lost in the sea of dots) or misleading (Figure 3 completely ignored when players were picked in the draft, counted stashes and retired players as "out of the league", and the x axis said it was in % but it was really just the proportion of players that weren't currently in the NBA)

Had anyone even heard of this site before this article was posted?

The one exception they mention to Dallas's lack of success is....Kelly Olynyk!

Since 2006, the Mavericks have had very little success finding the right player in the draft. Over 80% of the team’s selected players are no longer playing the in the NBA including Solomon Alabi, Darius Johnson-Odom, and Satnam Singh. To be fair, the Mavericks also selected Kelly Olynyk (now with the Celtics) and Justin Anderson, who has posted 1.3 win shares since the start of the 2015 season.

Also, there's a simple reason that Dallas and San Antonio would be toward the low end: they had good teams for the time period in question, so, they drafted lower on average. And in a bit of news that will shock you all, lower-drafted players stay in the league less often than higher-drafted players!

I haven't updated it in a while but I once did a pretty detailed analysis of Ainge's record that considered where he drafted, and it grades out well above average. He's good. For most of his tenure the Celtics have drafted in the late teens and 20s. And his hit rate on second rounders is way above average.

That blogger would be on the very low end of NBA knowledge - and interpreting data- on a forum like this, in my opinion.

[tstorey_97]

The post requires the response to "agree" or "defend" Ainge's record.

As has been pointed out 12,000 times, Ainge is plunking along with lower draft position in comparison to "some" of his peers.

Presti is a far better drafter because Harden, Westbrook and Durant were out of reach of Ainge's "balls."

So Presti is better except for one small detail...no title...lotsa highlight reels though. His teams got highlight reels to watch till your eyeballs drop out. Harden cranks out highlight reels at his NEW team too...shazzam!

So Presti gets the "Highlight reel generating players picked in the draft award" and the "average drafter" gets a title.
 

[Ilikesports17]

I don't think I'm special I actually try to see what fits the situation and no most people did not have avery bradley even near us until rumors started coming out.

Chad Ford had hiim going way later until the bandwagon started rollling in and it was reported we were interested.

Draft express had him going at #14 at the beginning of June and #18 going into the draft.  We took him at #19

Source

If you look at draft express's mock drafts they have every pick right for every draft.  Those aren't their mocks.

go do a search on their 2010 and 2011 mock drafts. They have every pick right.  It's hte actual draft. Their mocks weren't that. Those sites do last minute corrections too.

A lot of drafts did have AB up there as it got closer to the draft yes.

Chad Ford is one that didn't.  I remember that.

they do not edit the mock draft history.

the mock draft history on Olynyk had him at 12, Youngs had him at 25, Rozier 30 and Brown 8. All wrong. 

[CelticGuardian]

The post requires the response to "agree" or "defend" Ainge's record.

As has been pointed out 12,000 times, Ainge is plunking along with lower draft position in comparison to "some" of his peers.

Presti is a far better drafter because Harden, Westbrook and Durant were out of reach of Ainge's "balls."

So Presti is better except for one small detail...no title...lotsa highlight reels though. His teams got highlight reels to watch till your eyeballs drop out. Harden cranks out highlight reels at his NEW team too...shazzam!

So Presti gets the "Highlight reel generating players picked in the draft award" and the "average drafter" gets a title.

I mean he had no part in getting Pierce onto the roster.... So he was lucky.

Looking like he's 1 for 3 in picks inside the top 14 range.

[walker834]

I don't think I'm special I actually try to see what fits the situation and no most people did not have avery bradley even near us until rumors started coming out.

Chad Ford had hiim going way later until the bandwagon started rollling in and it was reported we were interested.

Draft express had him going at #14 at the beginning of June and #18 going into the draft.  We took him at #19

Source

If you look at draft express's mock drafts they have every pick right for every draft.  Those aren't their mocks.

go do a search on their 2010 and 2011 mock drafts. They have every pick right.  It's hte actual draft. Their mocks weren't that. Those sites do last minute corrections too.

A lot of drafts did have AB up there as it got closer to the draft yes.

Chad Ford is one that didn't.  I remember that.

they do not edit the mock draft history.

the mock draft history on Olynyk had him at 12, Youngs had him at 25, Rozier 30 and Brown 8. All wrong.

Well my point stands then. Most people don't understand how ainge drafts. I check out those sites sometimes and read a lot of the consensus around the net and sometimes it's right and a lot of the time it's wrong.  That's been my experience at least. Sometimes it's not. I think most people liked jaylen as we got closer to the draft last year.  At least here the consensus was that but there was still a lot of people who were on the buddy hield train and murray. I was never too big on those guys.

I listened to the hield hype. I never bought it. Good player though.

Draftexpress definately seems like the most accurate of the bunch.  Theya re good.  I dont look at mocks too much but that's the best one.  nbadraft.net is also interesting i find.  chad ford i don't like his style but still interesting sometimes.  sports illustrated can be out there in left field.

i use nbadraft.net the most out of any of them. it's just a quick easy reference. i find how they have us drafting is usually fairly accurate although sometimes its the wrong guys.

[walker834]

What's nice about how danny does things is we have a really good team where we can do a lot of things and it's really icing on the cake.  We can draft now.  We have these picks.  We can make trades.  We can insert players in all sorts of ways.

Better than being philly counting on Embiid to turn their franchise around.  We get a guy like that on our team and it's more icing.

SA getting Duncan was that in ways although Robinson had to get hurt for them to end up in the lottery.  We dont have to do that.

[mr. dee]

The post requires the response to "agree" or "defend" Ainge's record.

As has been pointed out 12,000 times, Ainge is plunking along with lower draft position in comparison to "some" of his peers.

Presti is a far better drafter because Harden, Westbrook and Durant were out of reach of Ainge's "balls."

So Presti is better except for one small detail...no title...lotsa highlight reels though. His teams got highlight reels to watch till your eyeballs drop out. Harden cranks out highlight reels at his NEW team too...shazzam!

So Presti gets the "Highlight reel generating players picked in the draft award" and the "average drafter" gets a title.

I mean he had no part in getting Pierce onto the roster.... So he was lucky.

Looking like he's 1 for 3 in picks inside the top 14 range.

But he have parts on pieces that land KG here. Al Jefferson was a steal at 15th spot, so is Delonte West and Tony Allen who were taken on the same draft class.

[hpantazo]

Ainge drafted two key starters on a championship team in Perkins and Rondo. Those two were huge for us until their respective ACL tears. Also, Perkins last time I checked was a big man, a legit center, so no, Ainge doesnt hate big guys.

Tony Allen was trending towards an all-star level career until he blew out his knee. Bradley is now a borderline all-star and most of us wanted to run Bradley out of town in his first 2-3 years here.

Let's give him some time on Smart, Rozier, Olynyk and Brown.

[colincb]

Celtics are only mentioned for the Olynyk pick which the article notes favorably as still being in the league. The Cs are also listed in the chart, but it's difficult to glean what led to the OP's eureka moment from that chart.

In any case looking back on the 2006-2015 timeframe covered, Cs only had 1 lottery pick (Smart) and did well in the late 1st (Rondo, AB, Sullinger, KO, and Rozier, missing on Giddens, JJJ, Fab, Young and Melo) Rondo was one of the best ever for where he was drafted and AB is looking like that also. The Cs also picked Powe and Big Baby out of 4 early 2nd round picks (31-40) and E. Moore out of 7 late 2nds. Three 1sts were traded to clean up cap room in 06, and get Ray and to get KG in 2007.

Overall. it's a pretty impressive run especially when you add the later heists that have not completely played out.

[Cman]

What ainge is doing isn't hitting singles.  I don't think many people even  understands what ainge does. How many people even had Bradley as a pick? I did but my iq is way up there.

We are a top team in the nba and have some of the most underrated players around.

IT was the last pick in the draft.  Ainge saw this.

His picks are more than singles.  It's more like ainge is in another world than most people.

Hahahaha! But not your modesty, right

Just joking around.

I agree with your general assessment of Ainge's drafting.