Anyone regret not taking Jamal Murray yet?

[LarBrd33]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

[alldaboston]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  The stats just looked good and he was young.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

he was who i wanted, but i'm happy with Jaylen.

the issue with Murray is, what is his ceiling in the NBA? seems to be nothing more than a volume scorer. Jaylen has the potential to be a very, very special player in the NBA.

[Csfan1984]

Not regretting it yet. Even though I was more in favor of Murray at the start of draft debates. Brown has grown on me and he seems to do well when given minutes. Do still like Murray a lot. Glad he has got it rolling after a tough start.

[LarBrd33]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  The stats just looked good and he was young.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

he was who i wanted, but i'm happy with Jaylen.

the issue with Murray is, what is his ceiling in the NBA? seems to be nothing more than a volume scorer. Jaylen has the potential to be a very, very special player in the NBA.

The only real player comparisons I saw for Jamal Murray was that his ceiling could be Klay Thompson or something... but he's shorter than Thompson.  The player I heard Jaylen compared to most often was Jeff Green.  Though I also saw Jaylen compared to Justice Winslow which is kind of a lame comp considering we don't even know what Winslow will be yet.

What do you figure Murray's ceiling is?

[KG Living Legend]

 He was my final decision pick as well. 20 ppg as a freshman at Kentucky is no joke. Lights out shooter. Jaylen was just soooo raw, still is. Time will tell.

[alldaboston]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  The stats just looked good and he was young.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

he was who i wanted, but i'm happy with Jaylen.

the issue with Murray is, what is his ceiling in the NBA? seems to be nothing more than a volume scorer. Jaylen has the potential to be a very, very special player in the NBA.

The only real player comparisons I saw for Jamal Murray was that his ceiling could be Klay Thompson or something... but he's shorter than Thompson.  The player I heard Jaylen compared to most often was Jeff Green.  Though I also saw Jaylen compared to Justice Winslow which is kind of a lame comp considering we don't even know what Winslow will be yet.

What do you figure Murray's ceiling is?

Klay could indeed be his ceiling, but it's gonna be very hard for him to reach it imo. Murray seems a bit quicker than Klay, so that can help alleviate the concerns about his athleticism, but Klay has the huge height advantage. I wonder what Murray's position in the NBA will be. Is he a PG? SG? not sure if he's good enough to run an offense, but he's also undersized for a 2 guard. it'll be tough for him to reach that ceiling.

where they are similar, though, is the obvious: the shooting. both have a quick trigger, can get shots off quickly, whether they're catching and shooting, or off the dribble pull up, or fading to the side. both aren't very athletic, but are still not given enough credit for the way they can get to the rim at times. Murray, though, won't defend like Klay. and Klay's reputation in the league is boosted by the fact that he plays for the warriors. i think he's a little overrated. not saying he's a system player, but it's not like he can be the star on his own team. i doubt murray can do that either, tbh.

[LarBrd33]

 He was my final decision pick as well. 20 ppg as a freshman at Kentucky is no joke. Lights out shooter. Jaylen was just soooo raw, still is. Time will tell.

yeah there were a lot of debates this summer about whether you should go with Old Man Hield - who sucked as a freshman and was just taking advantage of lesser experienced players... or if you should draft Jamal Murray who was excellent as a freshman. How much better would Murray be 4 years from now when he was hields age. 

Kinda interesting hield has been so terrible so far.  I'd have expected him to be making the early contributions.

[tazzmaniac]

After Simmons and Ingram, I didn't particularly like any of the 3 through 8 guys but didn't want Dunn or Hield.  I either wanted to see a trade or Danny to choose his best upside youngster of the bunch.  I'm actually pleased with Jaylen so far in comparison to his few college games that I saw.  I think he's got more upside than Murray.  No one from this draft class is doing well so far so I can't see why anyone would have regrets already. 

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/rookies 

[alewilliam789]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  The stats just looked good and he was young.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

he was who i wanted, but i'm happy with Jaylen.

the issue with Murray is, what is his ceiling in the NBA? seems to be nothing more than a volume scorer. Jaylen has the potential to be a very, very special player in the NBA.

The only real player comparisons I saw for Jamal Murray was that his ceiling could be Klay Thompson or something... but he's shorter than Thompson.  The player I heard Jaylen compared to most often was Jeff Green.  Though I also saw Jaylen compared to Justice Winslow which is kind of a lame comp considering we don't even know what Winslow will be yet.

What do you figure Murray's ceiling is?

I'm sure you can find one of my posts on here preaching about how much I loved Murray and why we should take him with the 3rd overall pick. He filled a need at 3 point shooting, was debate ably the best combination of youth, production, skills, and upside. I did a statistical comparison of CJ McCollum's collegiate sophmore year compared to Murray's freshman year and they were almost exactly alike. To me that's his comparison. Never will be a lock down defender, but he's a player that can fill it up when given the opportunity and create off the dribble as well. The one main difference is that McCollum is more of a pure scorer, but what I saw from Murray in the SL showed he could possibly live up to that comparison.

For Brown he arguably was the prospect with the best ceiling and upside than any player on the board and honestly I'm fine with the pick because I really hope we can develop him as a player and mold him into something that could be special. I would have been fine either way

[tazzmaniac]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  The stats just looked good and he was young.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

he was who i wanted, but i'm happy with Jaylen.

the issue with Murray is, what is his ceiling in the NBA? seems to be nothing more than a volume scorer. Jaylen has the potential to be a very, very special player in the NBA.

The only real player comparisons I saw for Jamal Murray was that his ceiling could be Klay Thompson or something... but he's shorter than Thompson.  The player I heard Jaylen compared to most often was Jeff Green.  Though I also saw Jaylen compared to Justice Winslow which is kind of a lame comp considering we don't even know what Winslow will be yet.

What do you figure Murray's ceiling is?

Klay could indeed be his ceiling, but it's gonna be very hard for him to reach it imo. Murray seems a bit quicker than Klay, so that can help alleviate the concerns about his athleticism, but Klay has the huge height advantage. I wonder what Murray's position in the NBA will be. Is he a PG? SG? not sure if he's good enough to run an offense, but he's also undersized for a 2 guard. it'll be tough for him to reach that ceiling.

where they are similar, though, is the obvious: the shooting. both have a quick trigger, can get shots off quickly, whether they're catching and shooting, or off the dribble pull up, or fading to the side. both aren't very athletic, but are still not given enough credit for the way they can get to the rim at times. Murray, though, won't defend like Klay. and Klay's reputation in the league is boosted by the fact that he plays for the warriors. i think he's a little overrated. not saying he's a system player, but it's not like he can be the star on his own team. i doubt murray can do that either, tbh.

Murray is an SG and secondary ball handler.  He's not good enough to run an offense and he'd be beaten like a drum if he had to defend PGs. 

[alldaboston]

I don't really follow College ball, but I read multiple draftniks who suggested all the picks in the 3-8 range were interchangeable.  Just based on stats and age, I wanted Jamal Murray, but I freely admitted I didn't have a valid opinion on the College prospects.  The stats just looked good and he was young.  I'm bias towards players who can actually shoot and he was like a half decade younger than the other shooter everyone wanted (Buddy Hield).  Jaylen was young too and I trust Ainge so I never had a problem with the pick.

It's super early and a tiny sample size, but how do you think Murray would have fit with the team this year?  Just looking at his last 5 games vs Jaylen's last 5 seems like Murray is the first of a disappointing and weak 2016 draft class to start stepping up.

Murray's last 5:  18.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.6 blocks, 0.4 steals with 48%/52%/86% shooting. 

Jaylen's last 5:  1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 22%/33%/40% shooting.

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

he was who i wanted, but i'm happy with Jaylen.

the issue with Murray is, what is his ceiling in the NBA? seems to be nothing more than a volume scorer. Jaylen has the potential to be a very, very special player in the NBA.

The only real player comparisons I saw for Jamal Murray was that his ceiling could be Klay Thompson or something... but he's shorter than Thompson.  The player I heard Jaylen compared to most often was Jeff Green.  Though I also saw Jaylen compared to Justice Winslow which is kind of a lame comp considering we don't even know what Winslow will be yet.

What do you figure Murray's ceiling is?

I'm sure you can find one of my posts on here preaching about how much I loved Murray and why we should take him with the 3rd overall pick. He filled a need at 3 point shooting, was debate ably the best combination of youth, production, skills, and upside. I did a statistical comparison of CJ McCollum's collegiate sophmore year compared to Murray's freshman year and they were almost exactly alike. To me that's his comparison. Never will be a lock down defender, but he's a player that can fill it up when given the opportunity and create off the dribble as well. The one main difference is that McCollum is more of a pure scorer, but what I saw from Murray in the SL showed he could possibly live up to that comparison.

For Brown he arguably was the prospect with the best ceiling and upside than any player on the board and honestly I'm fine with the pick because I really hope we can develop him as a player and mold him into something that could be special. I would have been fine either way

right on.

to do this, though, we have to give Jaylen valuable time on the court. 4-7 minutes a game isn't gonna cut it. he's only gonna get better, especially since recently he seems to have completely fallen off given the lack of playing time and touches. i'd love for us to try to get him more involved in the offense. i kinda feel Isaiah doesn't like him lol. doesnt really look his way on offense, and anyone catch his comments last week about the future nets picks? said something along the lines of: "I wasn't a first round draft pick. i dont care about no first round draft picks".

[mr. dee]

He'll be what RJ Hunter could have been on this team who actually knocks down 3s. I'm pretty sure 90% of the fanbase right now are satisfied with Jaylen, unless they turn sour due to lack of development on the next 3 years which hopefully will not be the case since the kid is a hard worker and has a dog on him.

[kraidstar]

Not too regretful just yet. Murray's poor athleticism is something that can't really be fixed.

He could be a good player in this league, but it's hard to see him being great. His ball handling is mediocre and his defensive potential is low. Not a good combo.

[LooseCannon]

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

If his defense is worse than Brown's, he'd probably get fewer minutes.

[KG Living Legend]

Murray's 4 months younger than Jaylen.  Seems to be finding a grove.   Would he have too much trouble competing for minutes here?

If his defense is worse than Brown's, he'd probably get fewer minutes.

 His defense is not worse than brown. They're the exact opposites Murray plays smart and has a high IQ on defense, Brown has all the physical abilities in the world but sometimes it's like he just doesn't get it.