Poll: both Nets picks+ Bradley for Klay Thompson

[Bucketgetter]

You agreed Bradley was better at defense last year.  I'm not sure what you are arguing about when you actually agree that Bradley is a better defender than Thompson.
And win shares are about team victories, and last time I checked Bradley's 2.8 was better than Thompson's 2.6 despite the fact that Thompson's team won 25 more games than Bradley's team.  That shows a rather large gap.  Thompson is a better shot blocker and defensive rebounder, whoop te do, those are a very small part of defense, especially for a guard. 

Again you agree Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, so again I'm really confused what you are arguing.

First, you replied to one of my messages, and now you admit you did not even bother reading the comment you quoted,  my previous comments, or for that matter, my answers to your comments.

I've seen you doing this to other commenters previously, so I cannot say I am surprised.

I read all of the posts I responded to.  You are saying Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, you just don't think it is that much, of course you are arguing with people that say Bradley is a better defender than Thompson.  It doesn't make sense.

I feel like this isn't that hard to understand. He thinks Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, just not by a lot. You think Bradley is a much better defender than Thompson. You both agree Bradley is the better defender, you just disagree about the margin between them. Personally, I think Bradley is clearly the better defender.

[BornReady]

Too much for both sides

With Thompson, warriors have a chance at a championship
You don't break up a core when you have a chance
Plus Bradley's 3P shooting is no where near as potent as Thompson
Making a weak link in their lineup

For us a lot rides on the Brooklyn picks
We need a superstar like Durant in order to contend
Klay won't be enough to push the needle for us to beat the cavs and make the finals

[greece66]

You agreed Bradley was better at defense last year.  I'm not sure what you are arguing about when you actually agree that Bradley is a better defender than Thompson.
And win shares are about team victories, and last time I checked Bradley's 2.8 was better than Thompson's 2.6 despite the fact that Thompson's team won 25 more games than Bradley's team.  That shows a rather large gap.  Thompson is a better shot blocker and defensive rebounder, whoop te do, those are a very small part of defense, especially for a guard. 

Again you agree Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, so again I'm really confused what you are arguing.

First, you replied to one of my messages, and now you admit you did not even bother reading the comment you quoted,  my previous comments, or for that matter, my answers to your comments.

I've seen you doing this to other commenters previously, so I cannot say I am surprised.

I read all of the posts I responded to.  You are saying Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, you just don't think it is that much, of course you are arguing with people that say Bradley is a better defender than Thompson.  It doesn't make sense.

You dismiss relevant metrics:  You keep using last season's DSW instead of career bcs it suits better; you dismiss blocks and DRB as insigfnicant, but somehow suggest that 0.4 more steals per 36 mins is significant.

You make false claims about metrics: ('every advanced defensive statistic' suggests Bradley is the better defender, you claimed. Nor do you take them back when corrected.

You make bogus claims about awards.

And put words into my mouth. (see your last post).

As for the conversation, it was from the start was about how much better a defender Avery is and if that would be enough to lure GSW into a trade. Pretending now that you have not noticed the title of the thread does not make you look you smart.

I'm done discussing with you. You may continue  inventing things I never said and metrics that do not exist at will.

[droopdog7]

Too much for both sides

With Thompson, warriors have a chance at a championship
You don't break up a core when you have a chance
Plus Bradley's 3P shooting is no where near as potent as Thompson
Making a weak link in their lineup

For us a lot rides on the Brooklyn picks
We need a superstar like Durant in order to contend
Klay won't be enough to push the needle for us to beat the cavs and make the finals

I guess this is where opinions differ.  I think Klay WOULD be a superstar like Durant on many other teams.

[timpiker]

Those picks gold.  I wouldn't trade them for all the Tea in China.

[Gainesville Celtic]

what is wrong with you people? Why don't you just sell both Nets picks for a box of donuts?

Well if you look at the current poll results -- the bar graph does looks like someone giving this trade proposal the middle finger...

[LooseCannon]

Giving up one of those picks for a non-superstar seems contrary to the plan.

[ThePaintedArea]

what is wrong with you people? Why don't you just sell both Nets picks for a box of donuts?

Well if you look at the current poll results -- the bar graph does looks like someone giving this trade proposal the middle finger...

As Rasheed Wallace said, "Histogram don't lie!"

[Big333223]

No, he's not worth both Brooklyn picks AND Bradley. And Bradley is the real prize for them anyways due to being about as perfect of a fit for them as possible, let alone the defensive pressure that he'd put on the Irvings, Pauls, and Westbrooks of the world in order for Curry to rest on D.

However, I'd probably do something like Bradley, JJ, and the 2018 Brooklyn pick for him, which is about the least it would take to get him.

This.

[Moranis]

You agreed Bradley was better at defense last year.  I'm not sure what you are arguing about when you actually agree that Bradley is a better defender than Thompson.
And win shares are about team victories, and last time I checked Bradley's 2.8 was better than Thompson's 2.6 despite the fact that Thompson's team won 25 more games than Bradley's team.  That shows a rather large gap.  Thompson is a better shot blocker and defensive rebounder, whoop te do, those are a very small part of defense, especially for a guard. 

Again you agree Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, so again I'm really confused what you are arguing.

First, you replied to one of my messages, and now you admit you did not even bother reading the comment you quoted,  my previous comments, or for that matter, my answers to your comments.

I've seen you doing this to other commenters previously, so I cannot say I am surprised.

I read all of the posts I responded to.  You are saying Bradley is a better defender than Thompson, you just don't think it is that much, of course you are arguing with people that say Bradley is a better defender than Thompson.  It doesn't make sense.

You dismiss relevant metrics:  You keep using last season's DSW instead of career bcs it suits better; you dismiss blocks and DRB as insigfnicant, but somehow suggest that 0.4 more steals per 36 mins is significant.

You make false claims about metrics: ('every advanced defensive statistic' suggests Bradley is the better defender, you claimed. Nor do you take them back when corrected.

You make bogus claims about awards.

And put words into my mouth. (see your last post).

As for the conversation, it was from the start was about how much better a defender Avery is and if that would be enough to lure GSW into a trade. Pretending now that you have not noticed the title of the thread does not make you look you smart.

I'm done discussing with you. You may continue  inventing things I never said and metrics that do not exist at will.

You use last season's metrics because they tell you who is the better defender right now.  Duncan's career metrics are great, it doesn't mean Duncan right now is great.  And Win Shares by their nature are a measure a player contributed to wins.  A guy on a 60 win team is going to have more Win Shares than a guy on a 40 win team if they have identical stats.  That is why Win Shares are a tough metric to use unless you are comparing players on similar win teams. 

Defensive rebounds and blocks are much more important for a big man than a guard by the nature of where they play on the floor (it is also why Bradley is a better offensive rebounder than Thompson because he is closer to the basket more often on offense than Thompson is).  Thompson is a better defensive rebounder and shot blocker than Bradley, but those are the two least important defensive skills for a guard.  Bradley stops his opponent from scoring at a much higher rate than Thompson.  Bradley gets more steals and gets those at double the rate that Thompson does (the shot blocking and defensive rebounding are not twice as good for Thompson). 

And the title of the thread is both Nets picks + Bradley for Thompson.  The enticing part of that trade to Golden State is both Nets picks not Bradley, because Bradley is a worse all around player than Thompson and while not nearly as good at offense is also a worse offensive fit since he is no where near the shooter Thompson is.

[KG Living Legend]

Those picks gold.  I wouldn't trade them for all the Tea in China.

 That's hard to pass up. All the tea in China could buy you the entire NBA, Ok not the Clipper's, but e rest of the league.