Poll: both Nets picks+ Bradley for Klay Thompson

[slamtheking]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them. 

[droopdog7]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them.

While not taking the stance that Klay is a better defender, I think you're seriously underrating his defense.  Clearly he and AB are different kinds of defenders, I don't see the gap between the two being all that wide.

[Moranis]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them.

While not taking the stance that Klay is a better defender, I think you're seriously underrating his defense.  Clearly he and AB are different kinds of defenders, I don't see the gap between the two being all that wide.

One was on the All NBA Defensive 1st Team.  One was not on the 1st or 2nd team.  One finished 6th for Defensive Player of the Year.  One received no votes and was thus at best 18th. 

[86MaxwellSmart]

Pretty sure GSW will never trade Thompson.....ever.

[SHAQATTACK]

Wait till they don't win the chip.

And have to choose WHO gets axed and blamed.


I predict they have TOO many chiefs and not enough Indians

[slamtheking]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them.

While not taking the stance that Klay is a better defender, I think you're seriously underrating his defense.  Clearly he and AB are different kinds of defenders, I don't see the gap between the two being all that wide.

One was on the All NBA Defensive 1st Team.  One was not on the 1st or 2nd team.  One finished 6th for Defensive Player of the Year.  One received no votes and was thus at best 18th. 

and there you go.  thanks for adding a factual context to my point.  TP

[RebusRankin]

Those Nets picks potentially land you two players better than Klay.

[jambr380]

Pretty sure GSW will never trade Thompson.....ever.

Don't forget about this...

“I feel kind of disrespected that people keep using the term sacrifice to describe me and describe us. We all want to see each other do well. But I’m not sacrificing ****, because my game isn’t changing. I’m still going to try to get buckets, hit shots, come off screens. I want to win and have a fun time every game we play.”

Either he is lying, will realize he doesn't care about his own stats as long as they are winning, or there is going to be a problem sooner or later.

If I'm GSW, I do everything in my power to keep KD, Steph, and Draymond happy - in that order. Thompson is 4th on that list. If there is an issue, a player like AB would be the absolute perfect fit for that team.

[greece66]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them.

While not taking the stance that Klay is a better defender, I think you're seriously underrating his defense.  Clearly he and AB are different kinds of defenders, I don't see the gap between the two being all that wide.

One was on the All NBA Defensive 1st Team.  One was not on the 1st or 2nd team.  One finished 6th for Defensive Player of the Year.  One received no votes and was thus at best 18th.

How does voting Bradley for DPOY 2016 means you think he is much better than Thompson?
By the same logic, Curry getting the unanimous MVP is infinitely better than any other player. You cannot quantify award votes this way.

Back to the initial question: I do not see why GSW would do such a trade. Thompson was very important in their success these last two years; and esp. in the playoffs you could say he was better than Curry.

And if  the C's decided to trade both Nets picks (that's a big if), IMO our first choice will be a big who can play with Horford, not a guard since we already have plenty of them.

This is a trade idea coming out of nowhere.

[droopdog7]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them.

While not taking the stance that Klay is a better defender, I think you're seriously underrating his defense.  Clearly he and AB are different kinds of defenders, I don't see the gap between the two being all that wide.

One was on the All NBA Defensive 1st Team.  One was not on the 1st or 2nd team.  One finished 6th for Defensive Player of the Year.  One received no votes and was thus at best 18th.

AB was not on the all defensive team in 2014 or 2015.  Was he not a good defender in those year?

I'm sorry but this isn't necessarily proof that AB is a much better defender than Klay. 

http://www.mercurynews.com/marcus-thompson/ci_30159773/thompson-klay-thompson-relishes-role-defensive-stopper-team

[Ogaju]

what is wrong with you people? Why don't you just sell both Nets picks for a box of donuts?

[Irish Stew]

This thread is how you can tell it's August.

[Kaz]

Wouldn't make any sense.

Dubs are win now, picks are nice but aren't going to fill Klay's shoes for the next few years if ever.

[mr. dee]

Too much for Thompson.  probably would do AB and Nets 2018 with the expectation that the Nets pick that year is still lottery but they have another season and offseason in which to improve a bit.  (moving Lopez for a couple of mid-first rounders would not be surprising or a late-lottery with another first). 

AB isn't inept as a shooter but he's much better on D than Klay.  That 2018 pick should more than make up for the talent and contractual differences between those 2 players.  question becomes who else has to go out with AB to balance the salaries in the deal

much better on D based on what? Bradley has a better DBPM and a slightly better performance at steals, that's all.

More generally about this thread, there is no doubt Thompson is the better overall player of the two, and that GSW has little interest in either trading Thompson or developing draft picks. I really do not see the point of this conversation.

Yeah seriously.  I love AB's defense but one could make an argument that Thompson is the better defender.  Dude can defend and is bigger than AB, thus can defend a wider range of players.

I wouldn't go with Klay as the better defender.  Good defender certainly, better - no.

AB has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seriously hamper, if not totally disrupt, the play of the guards on other teams.   Been demonstrating from early in his career.  While Klay is certainly a competent defender, I've never seen him frustrate his opposition on defense.  Granted I don't watch GSW games like I watch C's games but just watching the 2 of them play, I'd give a solid edge to AB on defense when comparing them.

While not taking the stance that Klay is a better defender, I think you're seriously underrating his defense.  Clearly he and AB are different kinds of defenders, I don't see the gap between the two being all that wide.

One was on the All NBA Defensive 1st Team.  One was not on the 1st or 2nd team.  One finished 6th for Defensive Player of the Year.  One received no votes and was thus at best 18th.

AB was not on the all defensive team in 2014 or 2015.  Was he not a good defender in those year?

I'm sorry but this isn't necessarily proof that AB is a much better defender than Klay. 

http://www.mercurynews.com/marcus-thompson/ci_30159773/thompson-klay-thompson-relishes-role-defensive-stopper-team

Put Klay on a lottery team and he wouldn't even sniff an all-star appearance.

[greece66]

Put Klay on a lottery team and he wouldn't even sniff an all-star appearance.

In 2011-12, GSW was a lottery team and Thompson was in the 1st All-Rookie Team.