Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time

[MBunge]

Or they'll trade Noel for peanuts now, then figure out during camp that Embiid is too broken to play and Saric is not an NBA player. Now that is going to work out great for them.

Or they can figure out Embiid is too broken to play and Saric is not an NBA player and have to trade Noel for A peanut because they still can't play him and Okafor together and as one of the few assets they have, they cannot risk letting him walk for nothing.

Mike

[Bobshot]

Noel is the hottest rumor right now. He's tweeting he loves Boston (from Everett) and wants to be traded--so Roto says.

He keeps getting stronger--and better. The missing piece up front for the Celtics.

Ainge should pull the plug on this guy. He's looking more available than ever, with Saric looking so good. Philly is loaded up front, and Noel is probably available for some of those excess guards Ainge has stockpiled. Rozier, Hunter, etc. Noel would probably sign an extension in Boston

[vjcsmoke]

Hmmm a package of Rozier and Young plus a future 1st round pick gets Noel?  I'm interested if we are talking non-brooklyn picks.  That might be the sticking point, if trade talks are actually happening with Philly.

[dannyboy35]

I think Philly could do better than a non Brooklyn 1st. Nobody knows if Roxier will be my good and Noel is at least elite at d. I think it will take the Brooklyn pick unless they like smart, then by all means take smart straight up.

[spikelovetheCelts]

There is no overreaction here. I do think Philly waits till Christmas to make a move. And It will be Noel or Okafor. Noel is the one for us. okafor does not help us with D. I personally would wait on the Draft if okafor is the one on the market. Noel with a Hayward in FA would get us to 7 with Cavs in 17-18.

[celticsclay]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

[LarBrd33]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

[jpotter33]

I know it's a minority opinion on this board, but I still would REALLY love to have Noel on the team. Assuming a trade would be something like Rozier, Young, and a pick, we might legit have a historic defense with a lineup of:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Horford, Amir, JJ
C: Noel, KO, Mickey

Are the 76ers in the business of giving away their players now?

Two mid-first round picks and another first?  Everyone is down on Young but Noel isn't going to bring back much more than that.

Mike

This proposal incudes an NBA bust, a SL star, and a pick (not the pick, if you catch my drift). In terms of actual NBA talent going to the 76ers, it is as close to zero as you can get. In terms of potential talent from picks, guys like Jiri Welsch and Mozgov fetched more.

The case in point is that if I were the 76ers and that's really all Noel could fetch, I'd be happy to keep him. They don't have to trade him.

^This

Also, I do value other commenters' POV and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I do find it ironic that the same ppl who think Noel is a great prospect also think Philly will give him up for cheap. (to be clear, personally, I do not believe either of these two to be true)

I'm one of those people, and I believe it because no rational person looks at that roster crunch and thinks they can legitimately roll with it without A) trading one of them or B) keeping all of them, ticking one or more of them off, and further damaging one or more of their trade values.

They'll end up trading one before or during training camp, or they'll have to deal hurting their trade value and dealing with locker room problems when they're playing out of position or hardly playing at all. You simply just cannot put three starting caliber pure-5's on one roster and expect to develop them all, especially when you have more than two other players that deserve time at the 4 spot, too.

Or they'll trade Noel for peanuts now, then figure out during camp that Embiid is too broken to play and Saric is not an NBA player. Now that is going to work out great for them.

.....which is why I've said the whole time that they'll wait to make sure Embiid is actually playable first before trading him, whether that means during training camp or very early in the season.

But they could still trade him before training camp, because, surprise surprise, they have a back-up plan for their current back-up plan, which is Okafor. 

So, yes, once again they simply cannot roll with all three of them for any considerable amount of time this season without causing locker room issues and hurting trade value. It's not that difficult to comprehend for any person that even moderately understands basketball. They'll ultimately have to make a decision to keep one of those guys long-term anyways if they all reach potential. It's a simple breakdown of their roles, capability of playing with each other, and the minutes available versus the minutes needed...

[jpotter33]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

Makes no sense for Cleveland either. Noel would be a perfect fit alongside Love, not so much TT, which would absolutely kill their spacing.

[celticsclay]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

Does Shumpert and Rozier and late first rounders seem like a disappointing return?

[Moranis]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

Does Shumpert and Rozier and late first rounders seem like a disappointing return?

They also have Noel and LAL 1st for Ingram on the page. 

[A Future of Stevens]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

Does Shumpert and Rozier and late first rounders seem like a disappointing return?

They also have Noel and LAL 1st for Ingram on the page.

That is a very interesting proposal. They would be giving LA back control of their future along with a stud defensive anchor, in exchange for a lanky scorer next to Simmons. I am not sure that the Lakers fanbase would be okay with that in any way shape or form though.

[celticsclay]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

Does Shumpert and Rozier and late first rounders seem like a disappointing return?

They also have Noel and LAL 1st for Ingram on the page.

That doesn't seem very realistic, more of a fanboy trade. There are not a lot of instances of a team trading a potential superstar for what projects as an average starting center and a first round pick. I also am pretty doubtful the Lakers could ever play Mosgov and Noel together and, as you pointed out, they signed Mosgov for a long time and at big money. Just wouldn't really make sense as a trade at any level

[Moranis]

Stopped over Liberty Ballers out of boredom. They have an article up about this twittergate and half their fans are convinced he will get traded to Cleveland for Shumpert, a europrospect (Odsman or something ) and a future first. It seems like even the 76ers fans are down on his value.

It's because there's some weak rumor floating around that Cavs/Celtics/Philly have a 3-way trade in the works where the Celtics get Love and the Cavs get Noel.   I checked a PHilly board as well and they were talking about getting a mixture of assets from both the Cavs and Celtics with guys like Rozier ending up in Philly in addition to guys like Shumpert. 

But it doesn't make much sense for Noel to be tweeting about how much he loves BOston if he's ending up in Cleveland.  So I'm not sure why they are so convinced he's going to Cleveland.

Does Shumpert and Rozier and late first rounders seem like a disappointing return?

They also have Noel and LAL 1st for Ingram on the page.

That doesn't seem very realistic, more of a fanboy trade. There are not a lot of instances of a team trading a potential superstar for what projects as an average starting center and a first round pick. I also am pretty doubtful the Lakers could ever play Mosgov and Noel together and, as you pointed out, they signed Mosgov for a long time and at big money. Just wouldn't really make sense as a trade at any level

Oh I agree it would never happen, I was just pointing out the wide discrepancy of trades that the site has to sort of point out you can't really rely on anything on it.  Pretty much the same thing you see on this site regarding various players. 

[LarBrd33]

I agree that it would make more sense to just try to target him in free agency, but he's a restricted free agent... so Philly probably matches whatever offer he gets.   They have to spend the money somehow and they could just try flipping him at the 2018 trade deadline to one of the teams that had interest in free agency.