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Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2016, 04:52:43 PM »

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It would be a dream come true if we landed Noel, but I'm worried about what it would take to get him. 

Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2016, 04:57:43 PM »

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I wonder how much Terry Rozier's trade value has been positively impacted by playing really well in D-League and being one of the three best players in all of SUmmer League.  While he's done nothing at all on the NBA level, he's showed signs on those levels that would suggest he might be a prospect worth acquiring.   That said, there's been plenty of players who tore up D-League and dominated SUmmer league, but couldn't make an impact on the NBA level.   

If like people here hope and Terry Rozier is one of the key pieces we include in a large package for Noel, that would be pretty interesting.  Seems like a pipe dream.  I still think Noel's got a chance to develop into a defensive player of the year candidate.  It would be amazing to get him.  I don't see any real rush for Philly to make a move unless Noel is demanding a trade and causing problems.

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« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2016, 05:00:28 PM »

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It would be a dream come true if we landed Noel, but I'm worried about what it would take to get him.
dont fret too much. all indications are that the celtics wont overpay for noel or anyone.
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« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2016, 05:14:37 PM »

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It would be a dream come true if we landed Noel, but I'm worried about what it would take to get him.
dont fret too much. all indications are that the celtics wont overpay for noel or anyone.

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Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2016, 05:14:47 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

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« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2016, 05:25:42 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.
The thing is, Ainge didn't do this trade on draft night even when it included Covington and two picks... If anything, Brown's value has gone up since summer league due to that great stretch of games, so why should we now trade him straight up for less? Doesn't make sense unless we are getting more than Noel back. Even then, I would not trade Brown. I think his potential and fit on this team is too much to pass up.

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« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2016, 05:33:05 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?

Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2016, 05:44:25 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.

I sure hope we could get Noel for less than Brown, but who knows.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if anything happens.

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« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2016, 05:46:46 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.
I'll bet ya 10 TPs it(a Noel for Brown based deal)doesn't happen

Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2016, 05:49:57 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.
I'll bet ya 10 TPs it(a Noel for Brown based deal)doesn't happen
It doesn't make much sense for Boston.  But something built around both guys is at least theoretically plausible.  Maybe something like Brown + Rozier + a couple of the guys we plan on cutting + a future non-Brooklyn pick for Noel, Covington, and the 2017 Lakers pick.   If that 2017 Lakers pick is in the play, it's a game changer.  But there's not a lot of reason to believe that future Lakers pick is in play other than some pretty weak rumors floating around the net. 

Just something to chew on for the next two weeks while fans wait for a Nerlens Noel deal.   If Brown was involved, there would be a reason for this to be cryptic and "hush hush" right now since Brown can't be traded until August 26th.   ANd since all the Noel rumors we saw (that a lot of people believe) had him coming to Boston in a deal for the #3 pick, it's not much of a stretch that a month later some version of the same deal would be in play.

Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2016, 05:51:33 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.

I sure hope we could get Noel for less than Brown, but who knows.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if anything happens.

Why would the Celtics put him through summer league and risk injury (ironically he suffered a minor one), have him meet the coaching staff and work with the training stuff, then immediately trade him the second he is eligible. Serious question, has that ever happened before in the history of the NBA? A team puts a guy through summer camp and offseason on their team even though he has already been agreed to be traded to another team?

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« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2016, 05:52:25 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.
I'll bet ya 10 TPs it(a Noel for Brown based deal)doesn't happen
It doesn't make much sense for Boston. 
Bingo.

Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2016, 05:52:26 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.

I sure hope we could get Noel for less than Brown, but who knows.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if anything happens.

No, that just happened to be the report that you heard that fit your narrative the best, so you decided it was truth.

There were numerous reports that they couldn't even get a top-10 pick for him at the draft, so they held onto him.
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Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2016, 05:53:35 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.

I sure hope we could get Noel for less than Brown, but who knows.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if anything happens.

No, that just happened to be the report that you heard that fit your narrative the best, so you decided it was truth.

There were numerous reports that they couldn't even get a top-10 pick for him at the draft, so they held onto him.
The Noel for Teague(who was later moved for #12) seemed stronger.

Re: Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2016, 05:53:37 PM »

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how soon until Jaylen Brown can be traded?  It has to be a month after he signed his contract, right?

Maybe Brown for Noel has been agreed to, but they can't make it official until Brown can be traded... similar to the Love/Wiggins situation.

Is this a serious take?
Sure.  The trade rumors around the draft (which we both agree were probably baseless) were built around Noel for the #3 pick.  It didn't make sense for Boston for a number of reasons.   But a main reason was that doing such a trade would have killed our ability to have double-max cap space Noel's money would be on the books (and possibly also Covington's if you believed that deal).    Made no sense bringing on salary if we were trying to get HOrford + Durant (which we clearly were). 

But now that the Durant ship has sailed and Jaylen has been signed, maybe that deal makes more sense.  We'd have to wait until Jaylen could be traded... which is August 26th, I believe.   So maybe that's the reason for the cryptic tweet.  If it's playing out like the Wiggins/Love situation, the deal would have been agreed to under the table "hush hush", but neither team would be able to admit to it publicly until Wiggins (or in this case, Brown) could be officially traded.   That's a little over two weeks from now.

I sure hope we could get Noel for less than Brown, but who knows.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if anything happens.

Why would the Celtics put him through summer league and risk injury (ironically he suffered a minor one), have him meet the coaching staff and work with the training stuff, then immediately trade him the second he is eligible. Serious question, has that ever happened before in the history of the NBA? A team puts a guy through summer camp and offseason on their team even though he has already been agreed to be traded to another team?

WHy would the Cavs have put Wiggins through summer league, etc etc, blah blah.

Brown was seen as a reach at #3 by a lot of folks.  People freaked that we didn't take Dunn there.  Having him prove his worth on the Summer League stage might have calmed nerves.  Or, perhaps it had the opposite effect.  He shot like 31% and 22% from three.  His potential was on display, but so were his flaws.
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