Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time

[gift]

If you guys REALLY want to overreact, go to google and search Noel. Look at what the short blurb at the top says 

i did and got:

No·el
nōˈel/
noun
Christmas, especially as a refrain in carols and on Christmas cards.

yep, color me excited. christmas is just around the corner, kind  of, perhaps. 

Fine look at his Wikipedia page and see who it says he plays for!

Also: We have another internet hack:

1) @BDThomas10  3h3 hours ago
.@NerlensNoel3 to Celtics via source. Finalizing details of the move this afternoon. Announcement expected by 4PM today #NoelToBoston

2) @BDThomas10 2h 2 hours ago
TRADE ALERT: Boston to get .@NerlensNoel3 from Philly for 1 player to be named and 2 2017 2nd round picks via source

3)@BDThomas10  1h1 hour ago
Details of Noel trade still being finalized... More draft picks/ player combos thrown around. But looks like its on

4)‏@BDThomas10  1h1 hour ago
Waiting on finalization of trade details for .@NerlensNoel3 but this is in our future #NoelToBoston

So that is a kid that goes to Northeastern who thinks he's a "reporter". Fun times.

Ok so this gets me mad. What if he actually is close to someone within the organization? You know, Danny does have close friends. And the assistant GMs and scouts and Brad and them DO have close friends. Also we literally JUST saw the example of our own Kevin O'Connor, who was probably just like "a kid that goes to Northeastern", and he's now really a reporter. Broke NY-BOS on Christmas and has a gig on the Ringer now. Not comparing the kid to Kevin, but it shows you don't have to be Woj to break stuff.

My point is, what if he DOES indeed know someone close to the situation? These people working in the front office do have people in their inner circle. Not believing the kid at all, just clarifying my point of view.

Chances are this is not real. But to your point, didn't the Russell Westbrook extension with OKC just get broken by a couple of people roughly equivalent to a car salesman and a radio dj?

Lebron back to Cleveland two years ago was first reported by a car wash attendant.

Sometimes these things happen.

I'm not terribly excited about Noel. Not sure what I would trade for him. Not much.

[jpotter33]

I'm not sure the a tweet about liking being home is a big deal, that combined with him removing his picture of twitter has me speculating though.

His twitter info still says "current Philadelphia 76er," so there's that.

This article says some more info about his Twitter actions. http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/8/11/12442040/nerlens-noel-twitter-sixers-boston-celtics-jahlil-okafor-nba?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Regarding your moon comment, I don't get it. And quite frankly, I don't get a lot of your comments. They're either snarky and sarcastic, or just plain annoying. Sorry.

Edit, regarding your edit about Rooks passing: that was in June. His picture changed yesterday. I saw his old pic yesterday.

Yeah, I don't understand how people think they'll be fine with that roster crunch. It already looks like it's causing some issues with Noel.

[celticsclay]

I'm not sure the a tweet about liking being home is a big deal, that combined with him removing his picture of twitter has me speculating though.

His twitter info still says "current Philadelphia 76er," so there's that.

edit: Also, here's why the picture changed to a black rectangle --

Nerlens Noel ‏@NerlensNoel3  Jun 8
Very sad to hear of Sean Rooks passing. My deepest condolences go out to his family. May he rest in peace 🙏🏾.

I'm confused cause I am not into this twitter stuff, but did he change his thing today or June 8th? Also Koz, it seems like you really go out of your way to be a wet blanket on people getting excited about a trade rumor/idea. If you are I'll get it excited when I see it on the ESPN ticker kind of guy, that is totally cool. However, if these other posters think it is fun to get caught up in rumors and speculations why the need to constantly attack the rumors credibility? It is summer and this is what a lot of people do during the offseason (speculate on ideas and rumors)

[mef730]

If you guys REALLY want to overreact, go to google and search Noel. Look at what the short blurb at the top says 

i did and got:

No·el
nōˈel/
noun
Christmas, especially as a refrain in carols and on Christmas cards.

yep, color me excited. christmas is just around the corner, kind  of, perhaps. 

Fine look at his Wikipedia page and see who it says he plays for!

Also: We have another internet hack:

1) @BDThomas10  3h3 hours ago
.@NerlensNoel3 to Celtics via source. Finalizing details of the move this afternoon. Announcement expected by 4PM today #NoelToBoston

2) @BDThomas10 2h 2 hours ago
TRADE ALERT: Boston to get .@NerlensNoel3 from Philly for 1 player to be named and 2 2017 2nd round picks via source

3)@BDThomas10  1h1 hour ago
Details of Noel trade still being finalized... More draft picks/ player combos thrown around. But looks like its on

4)‏@BDThomas10  1h1 hour ago
Waiting on finalization of trade details for .@NerlensNoel3 but this is in our future #NoelToBoston

So that is a kid that goes to Northeastern who thinks he's a "reporter". Fun times.

Ok so this gets me mad. What if he actually is close to someone within the organization? You know, Danny does have close friends. And the assistant GMs and scouts and Brad and them DO have close friends. Also we literally JUST saw the example of our own Kevin O'Connor, who was probably just like "a kid that goes to Northeastern", and he's now really a reporter. Broke NY-BOS on Christmas and has a gig on the Ringer now. Not comparing the kid to Kevin, but it shows you don't have to be Woj to break stuff.

My point is, what if he DOES indeed know someone close to the situation? These people working in the front office do have people in their inner circle. Not believing the kid at all, just clarifying my point of view.

Chances are this is not real. But to your point, didn't the Russell Westbrook extension with OKC just get broken by a couple of people roughly equivalent to a car salesman and a radio dj?

Lebron back to Cleveland two years ago was first reported by a car wash attendant.

Sometimes these things happen.

I'm not terribly excited about Noel. Not sure what I would trade for him. Not much.

It only counts if he was washing a Lexus at the time.

I took a week off from CB. Nice to see that nothing has changed.

Mike

[__ramonezy__]

Danny is no fool, he knows what a one-dimensional, 6th overall pick with injury history in the final year of his rookie contract is worth. So if it is real, I'm not worried about what we're sending back... which I think would center around Rozier and a pick.

The 76ers aren't going to keep Noel past this season anyway and Noel will not be resigning with them... he'll never be an all-star on this team with so many young bigs and Colangelo knows this. The smartest 76er big is the one that jumps off of the ship first which Noel is in line to do.

Not sure if the rumour is true or not, but it is logical.

[Evantime34]

I'm not sure the a tweet about liking being home is a big deal, that combined with him removing his picture of twitter has me speculating though.

His twitter info still says "current Philadelphia 76er," so there's that.

This article says some more info about his Twitter actions. http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/8/11/12442040/nerlens-noel-twitter-sixers-boston-celtics-jahlil-okafor-nba?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Regarding your moon comment, I don't get it. And quite frankly, I don't get a lot of your comments. They're either snarky and sarcastic, or just plain annoying. Sorry.

Edit, regarding your edit about Rooks passing: that was in June. His picture changed yesterday. I saw his old pic yesterday.

Yeah, I don't understand how people think they'll be fine with that roster crunch. It already looks like it's causing some issues with Noel.

They absolutely aren't fine with the roster crunch. Didn't Collangelo essentially say as much?

That being said I don't think they are going to make a bad value deal in order to clear up the log jam.

With Okafor and Embiid coming back from injury and Saric/Simmons adjusting as rookies the log jam might not even present itself in the first month or two of the season. They do have to trade someone to clear up the log jam, but they don't need to do it immediately.

[Rosco917]

I would have been much more excited about Noel coming to the Celtics before we got Horford. At this point it all depends what we have to give up to put him in green.

He doesn't fill any of our immediate needs. He doesn't stretch the floor, his offensive game is still a work in progress, at most he would be a younger replacement for the inevitable loss of Amir. At 22 he still has upside.

[alldaboston]

I'm not sure the a tweet about liking being home is a big deal, that combined with him removing his picture of twitter has me speculating though.

His twitter info still says "current Philadelphia 76er," so there's that.

edit: Also, here's why the picture changed to a black rectangle --

Nerlens Noel ‏@NerlensNoel3  Jun 8
Very sad to hear of Sean Rooks passing. My deepest condolences go out to his family. May he rest in peace .

I'm confused cause I am not into this twitter stuff, but did he change his thing today or June 8th? Also Koz, it seems like you really go out of your way to be a wet blanket on people getting excited about a trade rumor/idea. If you are I'll get it excited when I see it on the ESPN ticker kind of guy, that is totally cool. However, if these other posters think it is fun to get caught up in rumors and speculations why the need to constantly attack the rumors credibility? It is summer and this is what a lot of people do during the offseason (speculate on ideas and rumors)

I can confirm he changed it yesterday. I saw the tweet earlier than most did, and he had his Philly picture. Today, it's gone.

Here's evidence:

Yesterday:
Today:

The pic is gone.

And also, regarding the wet blanket stuff, I agree completely.

[otherdave]

I would have been much more excited about Noel coming to the Celtics before we got Horford. At this point it all depends what we have to give up to put him in green.

He doesn't fill any of our immediate needs. He doesn't stretch the floor, his offensive game is still a work in progress, at most he would be a younger replacement for the inevitable loss of Amir. At 22 he still has upside.

Which is why I would not want to part with Terry for him.  I think Terry might really be something in a year or two.  Time will tell of course.

[straightouttabahstun]

I wonder if Boston is low key working something out. This is where our glut of players could work. Maybe we can sell them on Demetrius Jackson, and the Clippers and/or Memphis Pick. That way they get a guard who could be good if in the right situation and a couple of decent picks where they can keep building from.

[steve]

I wonder if Boston is low key working something out. This is where our glut of players could work. Maybe we can sell them on Demetrius Jackson, and the Clippers and/or Memphis Pick. That way they get a guard who could be good if in the right situation and a couple of decent picks where they can keep building from.

I don't think they want anymore picks. I think it has to be Smart.

[Surferdad]

I wonder if Boston is low key working something out. This is where our glut of players could work. Maybe we can sell them on Demetrius Jackson, and the Clippers and/or Memphis Pick. That way they get a guard who could be good if in the right situation and a couple of decent picks where they can keep building from.

I don't think they want anymore picks. I think it has to be Smart.

Which is exactly why it has NOT happened yet.

The tweets above speak of "finalizing a deal".  So what?  I bet there are tons of deals that get nixed at the final stage.

I'm not holding my breath on this one, but I do think Noel would be a good move for this team because it allows Horford to spend more time at the 4.  He could also be flipped at the deadline in a larger deal for Boogie.

[Fireworks_Boom!]

Philadelphia has zero leverage in this situation.

1. Noel is likely due a large raise next year.
2. Noel is limited offensively.
3. Philly needs to get rid of a big.

I would struggle to get rid of Terry Rozier for him straight up so if they think they're getting Marcus Smart they are smoking some seriously good weed.

I guess I would support a Terry Rozier/James Young/Memphis Pick but even this package would be tough given the 3 factors above.

He would strengthen our already strong defensive presence but would also cause a logjam at the big position (Bigs: Horford/Olynyk/Johnson/Zeller/Mickey). One of these 5 would have to go. Maybe this would require Mickey to be part of the outgoing package?

[Diggles]

I wonder if Boston is low key working something out. This is where our glut of players could work. Maybe we can sell them on Demetrius Jackson, and the Clippers and/or Memphis Pick. That way they get a guard who could be good if in the right situation and a couple of decent picks where they can keep building from.

I don't think they want anymore picks. I think it has to be Smart.

Jackson can't be traded until Dec 15th too...

Take our two late first picks and Young/RJ for the one year rental.   

[LooseCannon]

I (and many others) have said this before, but the main issue with Noel is that this is the 3rd year of his rookie deal. He has two more years left, this year and next. After that he'll be a restricted free agent.

The question then becomes: Do you think Noel might be worth 25% of the salary cap when his rookie deal is through? Because that would be the max for a player of his experience, and it might be what you'd need to spend to retain him, or risk losing him for nothing.

Given all this, I wouldn't give up much for him, especially because you just signed a guy who's a prototypical new-age center (Horford).

Given the current salary landscape, I wouldn't worry too much. 

Pretty much every free agent with starter (or even fringe starter) talent is out there raking in max / borderline-max deals.  When you have 20+ teams with fat wallets, all fighting over the same 5-10 free agents, then you end up with a bidding way.  Overpaying is inevitable. 

At least in Noel's case (unlike with Westbrook / Griffin) he'd be restricted, which means the Celtics have flexibility.  If we want to keep him, we have the right to match all offers.  If we don't want to, then we have the power to pressure potential suitors into a S&T.  Either way we don't need to worry about the risk of him walking away for nothing.  That justifies giving up reasonable assets if need be.

Noel is likely never going to be a big star, but he's already one of the better defensive centers in the NBA.  If he came to Boston there's a chance me might be the best defensive player on the team from day one, and that's no mean feat given the defensive talent already on this roster. 

Then there is the future - at 22 years of age with his length, athleticim and natural defensive instincts...he has the potential to be a Dwight Howard / DeAndre Jordan / Kevin Garnett caliber defensive player.  IMHO a player with that type of defensive upside is worth taking a gambling on with a "post-rookie" max deal. 

Remember we would get two years of Noel before he'd even reach restricted FA, so that gives us two seasons to track his progress and see what happens.  After two seasons if he doesn't show substantial improvement, you can always cut your losses.  But if he starts flashing serious DPOTY potential, then you lock him up quick smart.

This would basically be like a corporate lease.  You get to drive the car for three years, and if you REALLY like it, you have the option to buy it at the end.  It's a pretty good position to be in to be honest.

Noel becomes a restricted FA after the 2016 - 2017 season, so we would only have one season before risk of losing him or paying him big $ using cap space.  This one year rental possibility is another reason for not giving up too much to get him.

Yes , and that's why the "Phili doesn't have to trade anyone" line is bs GM speak. The clock is ticking for them. If they don't trade Noel soon, they will have to either match a huge contract offer this summer or let him walk for nothing. In the meantime Embiid's next deal is coming up soon after , and Embiid, Noel, Okafor, Saric will all want chances to showcase their talents this season for future contracts, and there will not be playing time and shots for all of them. One or more will eventually publicly demand trades if they all start the season on the same roster.

If Noel is worth a huge contract, it would be reasonable for Philly to match a big offer sheet with the intention of trading him later (or keeping him and trading someone else).

Players get fined by the league for making pubic trade demands.