Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time

[greece66]

I know it's a minority opinion on this board, but I still would REALLY love to have Noel on the team. Assuming a trade would be something like Rozier, Young, and a pick, we might legit have a historic defense with a lineup of:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Horford, Amir, JJ
C: Noel, KO, Mickey

Are the 76ers in the business of giving away their players now?

Two mid-first round picks and another first?  Everyone is down on Young but Noel isn't going to bring back much more than that.

Mike

This proposal incudes an NBA bust, a SL star, and a pick (not the pick, if you catch my drift). In terms of actual NBA talent going to the 76ers, it is as close to zero as you can get. In terms of potential talent from picks, guys like Jiri Welsch and Mozgov fetched more.

The case in point is that if I were the 76ers and that's really all Noel could fetch, I'd be happy to keep him. They don't have to trade him.

^This

Also, I do value other commenters' POV and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I do find it ironic that the same ppl who think Noel is a great prospect also think Philly will give him up for cheap. (to be clear, personally, I do not believe either of these two to be true)

[csfansince60s]

Philly wanted the third pick to get Dunn, a point guard.

They still want a point guard. We won't have to give up Brown. Rozier, Young/Hunter and picks should be enough.

[jpotter33]

I know it's a minority opinion on this board, but I still would REALLY love to have Noel on the team. Assuming a trade would be something like Rozier, Young, and a pick, we might legit have a historic defense with a lineup of:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Horford, Amir, JJ
C: Noel, KO, Mickey

Are the 76ers in the business of giving away their players now?

Two mid-first round picks and another first?  Everyone is down on Young but Noel isn't going to bring back much more than that.

Mike

This proposal incudes an NBA bust, a SL star, and a pick (not the pick, if you catch my drift). In terms of actual NBA talent going to the 76ers, it is as close to zero as you can get. In terms of potential talent from picks, guys like Jiri Welsch and Mozgov fetched more.

The case in point is that if I were the 76ers and that's really all Noel could fetch, I'd be happy to keep him. They don't have to trade him.

^This

Also, I do value other commenters' POV and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I do find it ironic that the same ppl who think Noel is a great prospect also think Philly will give him up for cheap. (to be clear, personally, I do not believe either of these two to be true)

I'm one of those people, and I believe it because no rational person looks at that roster crunch and thinks they can legitimately roll with it without A) trading one of them or B) keeping all of them, ticking one or more of them off, and further damaging one or more of their trade values.

They'll end up trading one before or during training camp, or they'll have to deal hurting their trade value and dealing with locker room problems when they're playing out of position or hardly playing at all. You simply just cannot put three starting caliber pure-5's on one roster and expect to develop them all, especially when you have more than two other players that deserve time at the 4 spot, too.

[max215]

The Lakers pick is top 3 protected again right? So we would be getting it this year. They won't be among the 3 worst teams.

I think they're pretty clearly one of the 3 worst teams.

[Ilikesports17]

The Lakers pick is top 3 protected again right? So we would be getting it this year. They won't be among the 3 worst teams.

I think they're pretty clearly one of the 3 worst teams.

No Kobe, natural progression of Randle and Ruseell and addition of Deng should all help. Plus even if they are second worst team in league that's still a 45% chance it's not too 3

[Dino Pitino]

In between Brown/Smart and Young/Hunter or whatever, there's a lot of room, a lot of assets. I think we'll be able to get him for something like the Memphis 1st plus our own '19 1st plus loose change in the Rozier-Jackson-Bentil-Yabusele range.

[alldaboston]

The Lakers pick is top 3 protected again right? So we would be getting it this year. They won't be among the 3 worst teams.

I think they're pretty clearly one of the 3 worst teams.

No Kobe, natural progression of Randle and Ruseell and addition of Deng should all help. Plus even if they are second worst team in league that's still a 45% chance it's not too 3

Clarkson also helps them a lot. I see him as a chucker still but one can't deny the fact that he can score the ball big time. I've seen lots of footage this summer from him and he seems to have gotten a lot bigger (legit NBA 2 guard size), as well as working on his 3 point stroke. Props to him. Second round pick doing work even after getting his $50 million.

[tarheelsxxiii]

In between Brown/Smart and Young/Hunter or whatever, there's a lot of room, a lot of assets. I think we'll be able to get him for something like the Memphis 1st plus our own '19 1st plus loose change in the Rozier-Jackson-Bentil-Yabusele range.

Yep, lots of assets there.  What do you think he'll end up going for, though? That's a pretty broad range of prospects. Shore it up for us.

[Big333223]

We also have to remember, it's not about how good Noel is, it's about what the market for him is. Like others have said, everybody in the league knows that Philly can't play all of these centers and has to trade one/some of them. The league is also very aware of both Noel and Okafor's limitations. I wouldn't be surprised if their trade value was very low right now, not because of the kind of player he is but because of the circumstances Philly is in.

[nebist]

Rozier, Jerebko, and BOS 18 or MEM pick for Noel sounds about right to me. 

Philly gets a PG with more potential than any of their current guards.  Jerebko may not be a long-term solution for them, but his shooting helps their roster fit this year.  PHI gets a non-lotto first for upside difference between Rozier and Noel.

[Sketch5]

I know it's a minority opinion on this board, but I still would REALLY love to have Noel on the team. Assuming a trade would be something like Rozier, Young, and a pick, we might legit have a historic defense with a lineup of:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Horford, Amir, JJ
C: Noel, KO, Mickey

Are the 76ers in the business of giving away their players now?

Two mid-first round picks and another first?  Everyone is down on Young but Noel isn't going to bring back much more than that.

Mike

This proposal incudes an NBA bust, a SL star, and a pick (not the pick, if you catch my drift). In terms of actual NBA talent going to the 76ers, it is as close to zero as you can get. In terms of potential talent from picks, guys like Jiri Welsch and Mozgov fetched more.

The case in point is that if I were the 76ers and that's really all Noel could fetch, I'd be happy to keep him. They don't have to trade him.

^This

Also, I do value other commenters' POV and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I do find it ironic that the same ppl who think Noel is a great prospect also think Philly will give him up for cheap. (to be clear, personally, I do not believe either of these two to be true)

It's been reported that Philly wants to trade both Noel and Okafor to make room for Simmons,Saric and Embiid. Theres also was some rumblings a while back from other GM's that they thought Philly was being greedy by taking every top prospect big instead of rounding out the team.

 Philly thought they were being smart by building up assets, except they did it for one position and teams know they have to get rid of a couple and are in need of a PG and SG. So they wont give up much for one of Philly's bigs, unless they are desperate.

Philly is still a was away from being a team, so they could take a projects that could get more playing time there than here. They're not going to get much than what Boston has to offer in players like Young and Rozier. Especially one that's a FA next summer. Boston will roll that dice easily.

[steve]

whenever a rumor says that the deal will be done by 4pm, you know it's false. why would a gm put a timestamp on a deal? sounds more like a wannabe reporter getting his 15 minutes of fame. there's a lot of people that connect dots with a potential trade and decide to pretend they have inside info in hopes that it actually happens.

[kozlodoev]

I know it's a minority opinion on this board, but I still would REALLY love to have Noel on the team. Assuming a trade would be something like Rozier, Young, and a pick, we might legit have a historic defense with a lineup of:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Horford, Amir, JJ
C: Noel, KO, Mickey

Are the 76ers in the business of giving away their players now?

Two mid-first round picks and another first?  Everyone is down on Young but Noel isn't going to bring back much more than that.

Mike

This proposal incudes an NBA bust, a SL star, and a pick (not the pick, if you catch my drift). In terms of actual NBA talent going to the 76ers, it is as close to zero as you can get. In terms of potential talent from picks, guys like Jiri Welsch and Mozgov fetched more.

The case in point is that if I were the 76ers and that's really all Noel could fetch, I'd be happy to keep him. They don't have to trade him.

^This

Also, I do value other commenters' POV and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I do find it ironic that the same ppl who think Noel is a great prospect also think Philly will give him up for cheap. (to be clear, personally, I do not believe either of these two to be true)

I'm one of those people, and I believe it because no rational person looks at that roster crunch and thinks they can legitimately roll with it without A) trading one of them or B) keeping all of them, ticking one or more of them off, and further damaging one or more of their trade values.

They'll end up trading one before or during training camp, or they'll have to deal hurting their trade value and dealing with locker room problems when they're playing out of position or hardly playing at all. You simply just cannot put three starting caliber pure-5's on one roster and expect to develop them all, especially when you have more than two other players that deserve time at the 4 spot, too.

Or they'll trade Noel for peanuts now, then figure out during camp that Embiid is too broken to play and Saric is not an NBA player. Now that is going to work out great for them.

[Moranis]

I know it's a minority opinion on this board, but I still would REALLY love to have Noel on the team. Assuming a trade would be something like Rozier, Young, and a pick, we might legit have a historic defense with a lineup of:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: Bradley, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Horford, Amir, JJ
C: Noel, KO, Mickey

Are the 76ers in the business of giving away their players now?

Two mid-first round picks and another first?  Everyone is down on Young but Noel isn't going to bring back much more than that.

Mike

This proposal incudes an NBA bust, a SL star, and a pick (not the pick, if you catch my drift). In terms of actual NBA talent going to the 76ers, it is as close to zero as you can get. In terms of potential talent from picks, guys like Jiri Welsch and Mozgov fetched more.

The case in point is that if I were the 76ers and that's really all Noel could fetch, I'd be happy to keep him. They don't have to trade him.

^This

Also, I do value other commenters' POV and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I do find it ironic that the same ppl who think Noel is a great prospect also think Philly will give him up for cheap. (to be clear, personally, I do not believe either of these two to be true)

It's been reported that Philly wants to trade both Noel and Okafor to make room for Simmons,Saric and Embiid. Theres also was some rumblings a while back from other GM's that they thought Philly was being greedy by taking every top prospect big instead of rounding out the team.

 Philly thought they were being smart by building up assets, except they did it for one position and teams know they have to get rid of a couple and are in need of a PG and SG. So they wont give up much for one of Philly's bigs, unless they are desperate.

Philly is still a was away from being a team, so they could take a projects that could get more playing time there than here. They're not going to get much than what Boston has to offer in players like Young and Rozier. Especially one that's a FA next summer. Boston will roll that dice easily.

Philly obviously has too many centers/power forwards, but I thought they did a pretty nice job of filling out the roster this summer with Bayless, Henderson, and Rodriguez being the main free agent acquisitions.  They could still use a better PG rotation than Bayless, Marshall, and McConnell, but SG is solid enough with Henderson, Rodriguez, Thompson, and Stauskas.  Covington is a pretty solid SF and they picked up the European rookie in Luwawu-Cabarrot, in addition to Simmons and/or Saric getting some time there. 

This Sixers are still going to be a bad team, but they won't be downright terrible like they have been and certainly have increased the talent on the team and with overall better fits than before.  At some point though they have to decide which two centers they are going to keep and move the odd man out. 

[bogg]

Philly isn't looking at a disappointing return because teams know they have to make a move - all it takes is two interested parties to bid against each other and all that's moot. They're looking at a disappointing return because there simply aren't many (any?) teams in the league that need a center badly enough to consider giving up premium assets for any of Philly's bigs. There just isn't much of a market for them. Who's really out there as the team that's going to be desperate for one of those guys?