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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #2880 on: Yesterday at 07:47:12 PM »

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We weren't beating the Knicks, but the Sixers getting swept by them just makes that last round choke look even worse. For reference, the C's had a 3-1 lead against the Sixers and a double digit lead in the 2nd half of Game 5 with Embiid out there for Games 4 and beyond. And the C's colossally choked it away. Then the Sixers didn't win any game in the 2nd round and basically got blown out in 3 of them.

If that's not a big reflection on the Celtics either then idk. I personally am even more ticked.

The good news is that Brad didn't seem particularly impressed with the Celtics season, citing that next year there won't be nearly as many teams tanking (thus inflating our wins).

He also said that to prevent what happened with the Sixers this year and the Knicks last year, he wants to increase our margin for error.

Those two comments make me think we are going to be making bigger changes. I'm annoyed, too, but it would have just been a 2nd round loss instead of a 1st round loss. Obviously we weren't going anywhere with this year's team - especially with Tatum missing at least part of the 2nd round.

Re: Celtics News
« Reply #2881 on: Yesterday at 07:49:31 PM »

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We weren't beating the Knicks, but the Sixers getting swept by them just makes that last round choke look even worse. For reference, the C's had a 3-1 lead against the Sixers and a double digit lead in the 2nd half of Game 5 with Embiid out there for Games 4 and beyond. And the C's colossally choked it away. Then the Sixers didn't win any game in the 2nd round and basically got blown out in 3 of them.

If that's not a big reflection on the Celtics either then idk. I personally am even more ticked.

Looking objectively, we probably should have seen this coming. Our offense doesn't score much in transition, we don't post up and we run less pick and roll than almost all contenders. On defense, we don't defend the three-point line well.

Our three-point shooting ranks outside the top quadrant, and yet we shoot threes relentlessly. 


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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #2882 on: Yesterday at 08:44:25 PM »

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We weren't beating the Knicks, but the Sixers getting swept by them just makes that last round choke look even worse. For reference, the C's had a 3-1 lead against the Sixers and a double digit lead in the 2nd half of Game 5 with Embiid out there for Games 4 and beyond. And the C's colossally choked it away. Then the Sixers didn't win any game in the 2nd round and basically got blown out in 3 of them.

If that's not a big reflection on the Celtics either then idk. I personally am even more ticked.

Looking objectively, we probably should have seen this coming. Our offense doesn't score much in transition, we don't post up and we run less pick and roll than almost all contenders. On defense, we don't defend the three-point line well.

Our three-point shooting ranks outside the top quadrant, and yet we shoot threes relentlessly.

Agreed. I just think it's an even worse look losing in the FIRST round. Yeah if they lost to NY or even a team like CLE/DET later on with this playstyle, still frustrating but you could kind of see it. PHI had a bunch of flaws too and really only have a good 6-man rotation which includes a rookie. NY exposed it. C's did as well to go up 3-1, but then poof
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« Reply #2883 on: Yesterday at 09:34:46 PM »

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Boston clearly should have gone full rebuild last summer and traded White and Brown and kept Tatum out all year.  I'm just glad Tatum appears to not have seriously hurt himself coming back so early.
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« Reply #2884 on: Yesterday at 09:42:45 PM »

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Boston clearly should have gone full rebuild last summer and traded White and Brown and kept Tatum out all year.  I'm just glad Tatum appears to not have seriously hurt himself coming back so early.

Disagree. If anything, Brown's value is higher this off-season. White's is the same.

The possible draft pick is the only loss. But I think a full season of winning has led to a lot of good development for Baylor, Hugo, and Queta.

It's a wash. Plus, we showed respect for the game. I still think that matters.

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« Reply #2885 on: Yesterday at 11:30:11 PM »

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Boston clearly should have gone full rebuild last summer and traded White and Brown and kept Tatum out all year.  I'm just glad Tatum appears to not have seriously hurt himself coming back so early.

Disagree. If anything, Brown's value is higher this off-season. White's is the same.

The possible draft pick is the only loss. But I think a full season of winning has led to a lot of good development for Baylor, Hugo, and Queta.

It's a wash. Plus, we showed respect for the game. I still think that matters.
I don't think Brown's value is higher.  Probably about the same, but by not making the move we wasted this year, didn't get a high draft (or perhaps 2) in a very strong deep draft, and generally just delayed everything.  White's value is also probably lower after his terrible shooting all year and his continued statistical regression.  None of those young guys are core pieces.  They are fine for rotational depth, but they aren't guys that should be starting on real contending teams.  Also, probably would have improved more with more playing time.  Winning in the regular season is nice, but the best development comes from playing time. 

Without major changes to the roster, Boston isn't going to win anything in the post season.  Maybe a series or two, but not championships.  The longer Brad waits, the longer it is until the team can start competing again.  I said it last summer and the way this season ended, I think showed that to be correct.  Boston simply isn't good enough.  They weren't good enough last year, when they had way more talent on the roster, so this post-season result really shouldn't have surprised anyone.  The shockingly good regular season was a mirage. 
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