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Quote from: celticsclay on July 14, 2016, 05:25:16 PMQuote from: foulweatherfan on July 14, 2016, 05:19:49 PMQuote from: DefenseWinsChamps on July 14, 2016, 04:53:12 PMNot disagreeing or agreeing, but that is a fascinating connection. Can you elaborate on what you mean?I PM'ed you....on topic if this thing really does shake out, I'd be really curious to see just what the hell Danny was trying to pull off that got us Griffin without any BRK picks trading hands. There'd have to be a first in there somewhere, but it sounds like Danny's really trying to exploit leverage - teams like LAC and OKC have a greater motivation to ditch their stars before they leave for nothing than we have to acquire them.The clippers probably really do want that pick back. It is 2019 at which point Paul will be what 34, 35? I don't think they will still be contending in 2018-2019 with Jordan and Paul.I had to look this up just now, but that pick is lotto protected and turns into a 2022 2nd if it's not conveyed by 2020. So it's not quite as valuable if they do anticipate struggling.
Quote from: foulweatherfan on July 14, 2016, 05:19:49 PMQuote from: DefenseWinsChamps on July 14, 2016, 04:53:12 PMNot disagreeing or agreeing, but that is a fascinating connection. Can you elaborate on what you mean?I PM'ed you....on topic if this thing really does shake out, I'd be really curious to see just what the hell Danny was trying to pull off that got us Griffin without any BRK picks trading hands. There'd have to be a first in there somewhere, but it sounds like Danny's really trying to exploit leverage - teams like LAC and OKC have a greater motivation to ditch their stars before they leave for nothing than we have to acquire them.The clippers probably really do want that pick back. It is 2019 at which point Paul will be what 34, 35? I don't think they will still be contending in 2018-2019 with Jordan and Paul.
Quote from: DefenseWinsChamps on July 14, 2016, 04:53:12 PMNot disagreeing or agreeing, but that is a fascinating connection. Can you elaborate on what you mean?I PM'ed you....on topic if this thing really does shake out, I'd be really curious to see just what the hell Danny was trying to pull off that got us Griffin without any BRK picks trading hands. There'd have to be a first in there somewhere, but it sounds like Danny's really trying to exploit leverage - teams like LAC and OKC have a greater motivation to ditch their stars before they leave for nothing than we have to acquire them.
Not disagreeing or agreeing, but that is a fascinating connection. Can you elaborate on what you mean?
I want one of these sources to turn out be a lowly burrito maker who recognizes patterns like Ainge getting double meat at Chipotle only when he's about to close a major transaction as a sort of victory cigar in burrito form.
Quote from: foulweatherfan on July 14, 2016, 05:29:10 PMQuote from: celticsclay on July 14, 2016, 05:25:16 PMQuote from: foulweatherfan on July 14, 2016, 05:19:49 PMQuote from: DefenseWinsChamps on July 14, 2016, 04:53:12 PMNot disagreeing or agreeing, but that is a fascinating connection. Can you elaborate on what you mean?I PM'ed you....on topic if this thing really does shake out, I'd be really curious to see just what the hell Danny was trying to pull off that got us Griffin without any BRK picks trading hands. There'd have to be a first in there somewhere, but it sounds like Danny's really trying to exploit leverage - teams like LAC and OKC have a greater motivation to ditch their stars before they leave for nothing than we have to acquire them.The clippers probably really do want that pick back. It is 2019 at which point Paul will be what 34, 35? I don't think they will still be contending in 2018-2019 with Jordan and Paul.I had to look this up just now, but that pick is lotto protected and turns into a 2022 2nd if it's not conveyed by 2020. So it's not quite as valuable if they do anticipate struggling.Right. It just makes deals harder to do in the future that involve draft picks due to the Stepien rule. The pick has more value for LAC from a flexibility standpoint in terms of future dealings.
Quote from: Evantime34 on July 14, 2016, 12:16:24 PMQuote from: triboy16f on July 14, 2016, 12:14:34 PMCrowder, rozier and nets 2017Please dont include brown ,ko or smartI'd be fine including KO.I'd prefer the 2018 pick to the 2017 one and dealing Crowder to Bradley. I keep going back to Bradley not being a part of any of the FA meetings, I think that is evidence he's going to be dealt.Yeah. There is enough depth, as it appears now, at the top of this draft that Ainge and his scouting director, Dr. Nepotism, will have a tough time messing up a top 5 pick.I'd also deal Bradley before Crowder all day - but I wonder if it won't take Crowder to get this deal done.The call to Budinger also indicates that shooting is going out in some deal, so that's either KO or Bradley, or both. Crowder not so much.
Quote from: triboy16f on July 14, 2016, 12:14:34 PMCrowder, rozier and nets 2017Please dont include brown ,ko or smartI'd be fine including KO.I'd prefer the 2018 pick to the 2017 one and dealing Crowder to Bradley. I keep going back to Bradley not being a part of any of the FA meetings, I think that is evidence he's going to be dealt.
Crowder, rozier and nets 2017Please dont include brown ,ko or smart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN0ptrepJEUThese dunks by Griffin are insane. I purposely looked for a playoff matchup to see how he performs in the playoffs. He doesn't seem like a great defender but his sheer strength and freakishness is ridiculous. Plus he's a good passer.
Quote from: LooseCannon on July 14, 2016, 05:30:40 PMI want one of these sources to turn out be a lowly burrito maker who recognizes patterns like Ainge getting double meat at Chipotle only when he's about to close a major transaction as a sort of victory cigar in burrito form.Haha, "I saw Danny sneak a sip of regular Coke into his usual caffeine-free. He only goes on this kind of Mormon bender when he's celebrating a big move."
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.
Quote from: walker834 on July 14, 2016, 05:22:11 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN0ptrepJEUThese dunks by Griffin are insane. I purposely looked for a playoff matchup to see how he performs in the playoffs. He doesn't seem like a great defender but his sheer strength and freakishness is ridiculous. Plus he's a good passer.I love the idea of a Griffin/Horford front court. Their games are so versatile yet so different. It could work beautifully.
Clippers just signed Ray Felton.... Now they have CP3, JJ, Crawford, Lil' Doc + Felton as their guard rotation. Hard to see them taking back Avery in a deal.