Jaylen Brown highlights

[walker834]

People expecting Jaylen to be a superstar are putting unfair expectations on him.  There is no doubt he is a good player.  Going to take some time is all.  6'7 with the afro 6'9 he'll be fine.

He's going to be a jason richardson level talent.  Or even Iguadala if all goes well.

I love what I saw.  Silky smooth with great athleticism.  Needs to get his footwork in gear on defense and that extra touch on his shot. he has the ability to do both.

I think he'll contribute this year and really be in gear by year 2.  He won't even take as long as smart offensively.

[alldaboston]

Lol.  People around here are delusional af.  The guy is a bust at number 3.  To hang your hope on him is to willingly walking into disappointment.  HE'S A ROLE PLAYER AT BEST.  Now, are you ready to indict Danny, or should we keep waiting for the trainwreck?

Yea, you're not an idiot or anything.

Ok, I'll take that backhanded insult now only if you're willing to take it when it turn out I'm right.  Deal?

That's not a backhanded insult, it's a sarcastic compliment

Two in thesame

No. We really should label a top 3 pick who's 19 years old a bust. Go on. Please tell us why he's a bust after one SL game.

It's not the SL game.  I knew it as soon as Adam Silver announced his name as our pick that Danny, as usual, made a colossal mistake.  Danny is great at many things, but on draft day, him and his son should not be in that room (unless he's trading that pick), plain and simple.  Jaylen Brown wasn't the BPA at number 3.  Not even close.

So Ainge sucks at drafting yet you love Smart? Look at the quote below from you....Let me dig up more on your historical opinions. I'm sensing a lot of inconsistency, arrogance, and pretty much embarrassing commentary.

"I'd trade Thomas before I trade Smart.  That's how much potential I see in this guy. "

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=84735.msg2092596#msg2092596

Dude TP. He's extremely inconsistent on here.

To me, it doesn't make sense for someone to love Smart but hate Brown. They're similar players. Both have a good body for the position they play. Both are strong and have good measurements. Both struggle shooting, and both can get to the line (smart showed this more so in college than in the NBA, but you can see that he has the ability to get to the line in the NBA too). Neither project as scoring leaders, but provide teams with a good dose of defense, heart, and passion. Both are at times out of control but are still considered smart basketball players.

I could go on, but I'll stop there. Point is, it makes no sense to be fond of one, yet be so disapproving of the other.

That's just my opinion. Surely people will disagree with me, but whatever

[MBunge]

Friendly reminder that Summer League doesn't really tell you if a player is going to be good... it just kind of shows you who is going to suck.

Consider that the league is made up primarily of undrafted amateurs.   Most of the guys playing we ok in College, but not good enough to be drafted.    So if you're the #3 pick in the amateur draft, common sense says that you were probably one of the top amateur players.   These are the same peers you were better than in College - so you should be better than them in Summer league.   If a top draft player DOESN'T put up big stats in Summer league, it's time to start panicking. 

Brown looked good.  He's supposed to look good.  Hopefully it eventually translates to playing against pros.

I believe both Perk and Big Al struggled mightily in Summer League for a couple of years.  It's an exercise that's largely useless for evaluating good players.  What it does is give teams a chance to look at marginal players in pseudo-NBA game situations to see what they can and cannot do against a higher level of athleticism.

Mike

[86MaxwellSmart]

Brown has Long Arms.
Hunter has added some muscle
Rozier looked really good
Young is a goner

we should get that Christian Wood guy.

[Kane3387]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OGrnjllhIlw

[max215]

The athleticism is real, handle looked pretty good, and his ability to grab and go is awesome. He needs some work, but not a bad start.

[Chris22]

Brown is already better than James Young.

[LarBrd33]

Brown is already better than James Young.

I should hope so.  He was a #3 pick.

[Beat LA]

Yeah. Lol. What he said. Free throws. A lot of missed free throws.

He was like 11-17... I hardly call that "a lot of missed free throws"...

You don't think that missing 6 free throws in a game constitutes as being 'a lot'?

[Beat LA]

Who's got a YouTube hopefully somebody's working on it. I wanna show a buddy of mine who didn't get to catch the game.

Lol, show him what, free throws?

What's wrong with generating free throws? I told you a while ago Brown was gonna be a good player. You can't take much from summer league, but you can see a little about personality and basic skillset

Brown has the killer instinct, and more importantly he has an obvious ability to drive to the basket and generate points. That's HUGE. A little time to hone in his finishing and shooting ability, and he's gonna be a really good player.

That driving ability is gonna be what separates him from a "role player"

Listen, I hope you're right, I really do, and I went into the game with a completely open mind about Brown, but there just wasn't anything there, to me.  Still, it's only one game, and a summer league one, at that, so hopefully he'll be better, tomorrow, is that okay?  Brown wasn't who I would have picked, but we are where we are, and I'm rooting for him to succeed and trying to like him, I really am, lol .

And generating free throws is great - I agree.  However, the way in which he did so amounted to little more than barreling into and/or running over guys and getting the whistle, as opposed to getting someone in the air with a shot fake, or something, and given that rookies are never viewed favorably in the eyes of NBA officials, my concern is that he's going to foul out very quickly if he doesn't adapt.  Is that fair?

Yeah, you and I were watching to completely different players.  He was not barreling in and running guys over.  He didn't get a single offensive fouls on those plays (though he did get one in the game).  Brown was under control and made he plays he needed to make.  And once he got down hill, you could tell he was very tough.

Okay .

[Beat LA]

Friendly reminder that Summer League doesn't really tell you if a player is going to be good... it just kind of shows you who is going to suck.

Consider that the league is made up primarily of undrafted amateurs.   Most of the guys playing we ok in College, but not good enough to be drafted.    So if you're the #3 pick in the amateur draft, common sense says that you were probably one of the top amateur players.   These are the same peers you were better than in College - so you should be better than them in Summer league.   If a top draft player DOESN'T put up big stats in Summer league, it's time to start panicking. 

Brown looked good.  He's supposed to look good.  Hopefully it eventually translates to playing against pros.

I disagree.  I think the split between draftees and non-draftees might be, say, 40/60, but I'm probably wrong, and while I realize that the summer leagues aren't the be all and end all or anything like that, I'd argue that the guys get to play against much better competition as opposed to what's in the d-league.  Think about it, at least in summer league play, most of the top picks are on the court, so it's a good test to see how your guys do against their prospective peersl.  Yes, there are many undrafted players, as well, most of whom either land an invite to training camp or end up in the d league, but all of those guys, whether they make it or not, are still the best of the best from the previous season in college basketball, so it's not like draftees are going up against a walk-on who hasn't played all year or any inexperienced guys, lol . Teams might be able to have their d-league teams run the same plays to facilitate familiarity with the pro-team's playbook, but at the end of the day, they're not even playing against the level of competition in the summer leagues, lol, so it's hard to say that the d-league prepares you for the NBA.  I think it actually stunts more than it helps player development, but whatever .

[walker834]

I don't know summer league gives you a chance to see players in different environments.  It's pretty clear jaylen is more talented than other guys. He isn't a Durant level athlete.  Marcus was pretty clear too what his strengths were.

KO has some really good summer leagues and it transferred over too.  Rj looks a lot like that this year.

It depends on how you look at it.  I can tell who is going to do what in ways.  Sometimes its hard to tell.

I can already tell Rozier every time he steps on the court in whatever situation he puts up numbers. That's just who he is. His upside is somewhat limited but good player.

[mr. dee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s0A7W7TI4Q

[walker834]

i really like what jaylen did. He came out relaxed. It was his first summer league game but was really aggressive taking it to the basket. He looked like a pro who just has aspects of his game that need work.  Particularly he gets caught sometimes off balance on defense. And the touch on his shot isn't there yet.

He wasn't trying to set the world on fire his first summer league game.   Rebounded and passed the ball well too.

[walker834]

jaylen is way ahead of marcus offensively as a scorer and slasher.  Not so much defensively which is what was expected from me.