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Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2016, 09:23:26 AM »

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James Young is just the latest example of how Ainge's drafting acumen is wildly overrated on this board.

Bust.

Lol he was considered a good pick by many, just because someone doesnt pan out it means Ainge is a bad drafter.

Funny an arrogant statement like this comes from someone who has defended Michael Beasley repeatedly. If you need an example of a bust, Beasley is a good one.

Beasley has been more successful in the league than Young will ever be. Thanks for making my point about Ainge's overrated drafting ability. He is at best average, hardly the draft savant he's made out to be on this board, and if he drafts Bender, his record will plummet.
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Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2016, 06:44:25 PM »

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James Young is just the latest example of how Ainge's drafting acumen is wildly overrated on this board.

Bust.

Lol he was considered a good pick by many, just because someone doesnt pan out it means Ainge is a bad drafter.

Funny an arrogant statement like this comes from someone who has defended Michael Beasley repeatedly. If you need an example of a bust, Beasley is a good one.

Beasley has been more successful in the league than Young will ever be. Thanks for making my point about Ainge's overrated drafting ability. He is at best average, hardly the draft savant he's made out to be on this board, and if he drafts Bender, his record will plummet.

Ainge is a decent drafter and hasn't had a Top 3 pick in his tenure as Boston GM. His last Top 5 pick was Jeff Green back in 2007.

However, Ainge is definitely a top GM when it comes to making trades and definitely winning trades.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2016, 06:55:25 PM »

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Seems like CBS and Ainge are both in agreement that James Young doesn't have a place on Boston's roster in the future. Had potential coming out of Kentucky but hasn't developed well in the NBA.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2016, 07:04:04 PM »

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James Young is just the latest example of how Ainge's drafting acumen is wildly overrated on this board.

Bust.

Lol he was considered a good pick by many, just because someone doesnt pan out it means Ainge is a bad drafter.

Funny an arrogant statement like this comes from someone who has defended Michael Beasley repeatedly. If you need an example of a bust, Beasley is a good one.

Beasley has been more successful in the league than Young will ever be. Thanks for making my point about Ainge's overrated drafting ability. He is at best average, hardly the draft savant he's made out to be on this board, and if he drafts Bender, his record will plummet.

Michael Beasley was drafted 2nd overall, Young 17th. If Ainge drafted the equivalent of Beasley with the 3rd pick this year, you would certainly use that player in a broad, outlandish statement "proving" that Ainge is a "terrible drafter" without any additional "proof" or analysis.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2016, 08:44:16 PM »

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I’ve seen James Young play in person, at Portland. I was like 10 feet away from the bench the whole game.  He’s used differently there vs when he’s with the Celtics. When he’s at Portland he plays SF or PF, he’s a pretty good rebounder. He’s a real good athlete with good fundamentals or mechanics. His body language is completely different with the D-leaguers.

When you see Young and RJ on the court together, Young is way more athletic. But RJ plays craftier, and maybe has a higher BBall IQ? RJ has had the luxury of having a Father who's a Head coach.

He gets along good with all the Red Claws, there’s none of the “King of the Mountain” stuff you’d expect players all competing to get to the next level. Meaning when he’s up there, he gets lots of playing time. Not like when he gets one minute here and there for the Celts. They run a lot of offense through him, and he’s pretty decent against the other D-leaguers. He’s more aggressive.

Whenever I see him play for the C’s, I get this feeling he’s holding back. Like he’s timid or has a confidence problem, but he can’t seem to get through it. Early last season I believe it was Mannix interviewed his Mother in Detroit? His mother kept saying he’s finding it hard to be “The Man”.  At every level he has always been the Man.

I think he jumped to the NBA too early and he can’t get a foothold in CBS’s system. He needs to build confidence but there’s too much competition and not enough minutes to go around. 

In the end, the NBA is survival of the fittest. If he needs to be “The Man” to find his game, then he better grow a set because time is running out. Still, I always get this feeling there’s a decent player in that body he just needs the right situation to metamorphoses. He reminds me of a better Gerald Green.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2016, 08:45:34 PM »

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Young gets released or traded before next season.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2016, 08:52:50 PM »

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I think it all depends on what the team needs in terms of space. But I see no point in cutting him out of principle. If there's room on the team, they should keep him. He could be another Gerald Green.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2016, 09:17:55 PM »

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I’ve seen James Young play in person, at Portland. I was like 10 feet away from the bench the whole game.  He’s used differently there vs when he’s with the Celtics. When he’s at Portland he plays SF or PF, he’s a pretty good rebounder. He’s a real good athlete with good fundamentals or mechanics. His body language is completely different with the D-leaguers.

When you see Young and RJ on the court together, Young is way more athletic. But RJ plays craftier, and maybe has a higher BBall IQ? RJ has had the luxury of having a Father who's a Head coach.

He gets along good with all the Red Claws, there’s none of the “King of the Mountain” stuff you’d expect players all competing to get to the next level. Meaning when he’s up there, he gets lots of playing time. Not like when he gets one minute here and there for the Celts. They run a lot of offense through him, and he’s pretty decent against the other D-leaguers. He’s more aggressive.

Whenever I see him play for the C’s, I get this feeling he’s holding back. Like he’s timid or has a confidence problem, but he can’t seem to get through it. Early last season I believe it was Mannix interviewed his Mother in Detroit? His mother kept saying he’s finding it hard to be “The Man”.  At every level he has always been the Man.

I think he jumped to the NBA too early and he can’t get a foothold in CBS’s system. He needs to build confidence but there’s too much competition and not enough minutes to go around. 

In the end, the NBA is survival of the fittest. If he needs to be “The Man” to find his game, then he better grow a set because time is running out. Still, I always get this feeling there’s a decent player in that body he just needs the right situation to metamorphoses. He reminds me of a better Gerald Green.
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When people say he has sucked in the d-league I scratch my head. He has shown that he can nail the 3 in many different scenarios, and I believe he shoots 45% from 3 in the d-league while taking a lot of attempts. The fact that when he plays in the NBA and is missing open 3's and shooting poorly from 3 for his career.....that tells me there is something mental going on.

Many of the good 2's around the league have played a few years in college and then took 1-3 years in the NBA before they blossomed.

I'm really rooting for James and will continue to. It would be such a differance maker for us if he took a leap in his game.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2016, 09:31:02 PM »

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James Young is just the latest example of how Ainge's drafting acumen is wildly overrated on this board.

Bust.

Did you look at that draft? The only players who have done anything at the NBA level who were also drafted after the Celtics pick were Hood, Capella, and Jokic. The other 43 players drafted after him have not been productive at the NBA level.

He went high upside with a really good athlete who also was known as a shooter, all bottled in the youngest player in the draft.

That was a good pick. Even if it doesn't pan out. Obviously, I'd rather have one of the other productive guys, but it was still the right pick.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2016, 09:44:29 PM »

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I think young will come around eventually in a Gerald green kind of way for us or more likely someone else.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2016, 09:50:07 PM »

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James Young is just the latest example of how Ainge's drafting acumen is wildly overrated on this board.

Bust.

Lol he was considered a good pick by many, just because someone doesnt pan out it means Ainge is a bad drafter.

Funny an arrogant statement like this comes from someone who has defended Michael Beasley repeatedly. If you need an example of a bust, Beasley is a good one.

Beasley has been more successful in the league than Young will ever be. Thanks for making my point about Ainge's overrated drafting ability. He is at best average, hardly the draft savant he's made out to be on this board, and if he drafts Bender, his record will plummet.

You mean your record of him will plummet. Not really anything to worry about.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2016, 10:40:10 PM »

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I’ve seen James Young play in person, at Portland. I was like 10 feet away from the bench the whole game.  He’s used differently there vs when he’s with the Celtics. When he’s at Portland he plays SF or PF, he’s a pretty good rebounder. He’s a real good athlete with good fundamentals or mechanics. His body language is completely different with the D-leaguers.

When you see Young and RJ on the court together, Young is way more athletic. But RJ plays craftier, and maybe has a higher BBall IQ? RJ has had the luxury of having a Father who's a Head coach.

He gets along good with all the Red Claws, there’s none of the “King of the Mountain” stuff you’d expect players all competing to get to the next level. Meaning when he’s up there, he gets lots of playing time. Not like when he gets one minute here and there for the Celts. They run a lot of offense through him, and he’s pretty decent against the other D-leaguers. He’s more aggressive.

Whenever I see him play for the C’s, I get this feeling he’s holding back. Like he’s timid or has a confidence problem, but he can’t seem to get through it. Early last season I believe it was Mannix interviewed his Mother in Detroit? His mother kept saying he’s finding it hard to be “The Man”.  At every level he has always been the Man.

I think he jumped to the NBA too early and he can’t get a foothold in CBS’s system. He needs to build confidence but there’s too much competition and not enough minutes to go around. 

In the end, the NBA is survival of the fittest. If he needs to be “The Man” to find his game, then he better grow a set because time is running out. Still, I always get this feeling there’s a decent player in that body he just needs the right situation to metamorphoses. He reminds me of a better Gerald Green.

Good balanced post.

I'll put it this way:  I'm certain I can't tell. Love the body and the potential to be a 3-and-D player. Great joints - as Ainge says, he's "juicy". Good balance. Good looking stroke, low turnovers.

Red flag: his minutes went down this year.  Then again, he had more direct competition.

He's 20. Looks like an NBA player. Beyond that, it's hard to even have an opinion.
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Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2016, 10:45:26 PM »

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Everyone always forgets that these guys are really people, not just basketballers.

Maybe his lack of development has something to do with the fact that almost all of James Young's family and friends have been getting poisoned by their drinking water, which set off an enviornmental disaster in his hometown. Considering he's probably the richest person any of hit friends and family know, I'd imagine he's probably getting pulled in 100 directions. Maybe that's really hard position for a 19 year old to be in.

Maybe it has nothing to do with it, maybe he's just terrible. Interesting no one mentioned it though.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2016, 11:15:08 PM »

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I go back and forth on Young.  It's disappointing to see him not be able to crack the rotation but we have to remember that he's still one of the youngest players in the league and his jumpshot is a thing of beauty.  The Gerald Green comparison seems to fit but I hope he figures it out before him.

I'd like to see us continue to be patient with him because of his youth and smooth shooting mechanics.  The posters calling for/predicting his release clearly do not know how the NBA works.  Extremely rare for first-round picks on their rookie deals to be released and even if that were to happen, it would not clear cap space for this summer.

Re: James Young: Third time Lucky Charm?
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2016, 11:28:28 PM »

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Ainge is a good trader but terrible at drafting.  Young is a bust.  Here's the bottom line...either you can freakin play the game of basketball or you can't.  James young cannot.  Goodbye!