Vlade Wants To Keep DeMarcus Cousins But Willing To Test Market For First Time

[alldaboston]

http://kxtv-download.edgesuite.net/video/2158064/2158064_640.mp4

@2 min mark

Cousins laughs at the question about meeting for the exit interview to end the year ,  sounds like he wants to be gone , but just can't say it . 

Then saying how he wants his next coach to be someone who demands accountability , structure *cough* Stevens* cough*

It does make some sense to pair him up with IT because they are still close off the floor ,  and have played together on the floor .

Send Jerebko, Smart, Amir , Brk 16, , brk pick 2018 protected

just have to convince Durant at that point

IT              / Rozier
AB             / Turner ?
Crowder       / Pick or FA?
Durant       / Mickey
Cousins     / KO

Definitely need some vet min who are chasing a championship to join up , maybe a Vince Carter type

Sounds like it was anything but an exit interview. More like an exit argument or an exit brawl lol

[moiso]

Just what Sixers need, another center. Doubt it.

Sixers actually make a lot of sense as a trade partner.  Okafor would obviously go to Sacto and Philly has a ton of assets, including pick swaps and Sacto's own pick in the future.  Philly could do something like Okafor, Lakers 1st, Sacto 1st, 2017 Philly (which obviously removes the picks swap from that draft).  Plus add in all sorts of other assets, without ever touching Philly's own 1st this year.  It would be hard to beat that sort of offer and that doesn't even include what might be Philly's best asset (its own 2016 1st).

It would also be hard to convince Cousins to re-sign with the 76ers. So nah I don't think any place where DMC would clearly walk would be the smartest trade partner for them.

He has 2 years left on his contract.  He might like playing there and they would get a lot better with him regardless of whatever other moves they made.

I don't know about that, the Kings didn't get much better since Cousins has been there.  Not sure why the Sixers would.   

He needs to go to decent team with a good coach and culture.

[Who]

Struggle with the idea of Bryan Colangelo trading for a malcontent post up player like Cousins.

[Eddie20]

Send Jerebko, Smart, Amir , Brk 16, , brk pick 2018 protected

Can't add protections to a pick that you received in a trade. So sending an unprotected Nets pick is a price I would really hesitate on paying considering how bad their future looks.

[Future Celtics Owner]

http://kxtv-download.edgesuite.net/video/2158064/2158064_640.mp4

@2 min mark

Cousins laughs at the question about meeting for the exit interview to end the year ,  sounds like he wants to be gone , but just can't say it . 

Then saying how he wants his next coach to be someone who demands accountability , structure *cough* Stevens* cough*

It does make some sense to pair him up with IT because they are still close off the floor ,  and have played together on the floor .

Send Jerebko, Smart, Amir , Brk 16, , brk pick 2018 protected

just have to convince Durant at that point

IT              / Rozier
AB             / Turner ?
Crowder       / Pick or FA?
Durant       / Mickey
Cousins     / KO

Definitely need some vet min who are chasing a championship to join up , maybe a Vince Carter type

It all depends on what pick we get, but we do not need to match salaries; so we would get a pretty good TE.
Lets say we get the 2nd pick. Even though IMO at this point that pick is worth more than 2 years of Cousins, to a rebuilding team. We should be able to trade the 2016 Nets pick for Cousins w/o any significant players or assets besides the pick.

We can always trade/sign vet min./ figure out the roster but DURANT will be playing sf for us most of the time.

IT
AB
DURANT
KO
Cousins

2017 we may be able to grab Ibaka/Westbrook/hit on the Nets pick again

IT
AB
DURANT
IBAKA
Cousins

[A Future of Stevens]

What makes you think that an unproven rookie who hasn't played a minute in the nba with minor red flags is alone worth a 24/25 year old center who is the most skilled big center in a generation? (Towns is coming for that crown) we would have to include more than just the 2nd. And it would be worth it.

[BringToughnessBack]

How about Chicago?

Jimmy Butler for DeMarcus Cousins

Chicago could make a lot of sense on many levels. I could definitely see that if the Bulls want to start their foundation with a top level Center.

[TheSundanceKid]

Id easily trade the Brooklyn pick for him. No doubt in my mind. Id also consider adding Smart, but Id rather not.

Would likely cost Smart/AB, Brk 16, Dal 16 and KO . They likely also want an additional Brk pick .......

Well that's not worth it. Players are like stocks and Cousins stock is volitile right now with only 2 years left on his deal. The Kings HAVE to trade him because there is no way in hell he is resigning there.

If we end up with the 1st or 2nd pick you could make the case that it is not worth it for us to trade JUST that pick for Cousins because of his behavior and years on his deal, because he could bolt.

I want Cousins because IMO that would prob make us Durant's #1 choice by far, especially since we could sign Ibaka/ Durant the next year. But getting Cousins should only cost us a pick and if it is the first pick then maybe even
1st pick,16th pick
4
Cousins + 8th pick

Yea I don't really see the kings giving up the best center in the league, and the 8th pick just for a rookie who may never hit cousins level (with his mentality and all) and the 16th pick.

We would have to go all in picks wise this year and include young assets to get their attention. And they wouldn't be including the 8th pick.

Cousins is damaged goods. He may command a top 2 pick and a few other picks but not like you are saying. I personally would sign Whiteside and keep our picks.

Whiteside isn't half the player Cousins is and will cost more. I understand people's reluctance to give up a top 2 pick, if that is where it lands, however we are building a team to compete in the next few years not in half a decade plus. It will take at least one Brooklyn pick, more likely two, for us to get ANY star in this league. That is the price we must be willing to pay. Yes we can go through FA but there is no guarantee to that. Also trading for Cousins or another star would not be at the expense of picking someone else up in FA.

His value is getting damaged more and more by the day. The organization needs to move on and they know it. Please remember:
1. Cousins does not have to re-sign with the Kings
2. Kings are not getting any FA's
3. RR is prob gone
4. Cousins has 2 years left and could bolt from whatever team he is traded to. Imagine giving up the next T-Mac/KD hybrid for a Cousins rental of 2 years......

Those are just some of the reasons why Cousins is not worth anymore than a top2 pick. Especially for the Kings who will be prob starting over again with a top pick in this draft, WCS, and a top pick in 2017 draft(if they trade Cousins)

True, however a star on a contract like his is hard to come by. In fact I can't think of another. Sacdomt have to trade him this summer, they could give it one more go this year. Plus we wouldn't be the only ones interested. Multiple interested parties will push up his price. Kevin Love cost Andrew Wiggins, at the time most saw that as an even trade.

I don't think Cousins is the type to bolt if he came here. He hasn't shown that as a personality trait. Compare him to Dwight Howard and you can see the difference.

A tuned in Cousins is the best center in the league, he's in his prime, fits a position of dire need and would be surrounded by some of the most down to earth guys in the league. Every even trade is a risk, but this one would be a risk worth taking

[playdream]

Id easily trade the Brooklyn pick for him. No doubt in my mind. Id also consider adding Smart, but Id rather not.

Would likely cost Smart/AB, Brk 16, Dal 16 and KO . They likely also want an additional Brk pick .......

Well that's not worth it. Players are like stocks and Cousins stock is volitile right now with only 2 years left on his deal. The Kings HAVE to trade him because there is no way in hell he is resigning there.

If we end up with the 1st or 2nd pick you could make the case that it is not worth it for us to trade JUST that pick for Cousins because of his behavior and years on his deal, because he could bolt.

I want Cousins because IMO that would prob make us Durant's #1 choice by far, especially since we could sign Ibaka/ Durant the next year. But getting Cousins should only cost us a pick and if it is the first pick then maybe even
1st pick,16th pick
4
Cousins + 8th pick

Yea I don't really see the kings giving up the best center in the league, and the 8th pick just for a rookie who may never hit cousins level (with his mentality and all) and the 16th pick.

We would have to go all in picks wise this year and include young assets to get their attention. And they wouldn't be including the 8th pick.

Cousins is damaged goods. He may command a top 2 pick and a few other picks but not like you are saying. I personally would sign Whiteside and keep our picks.

Whiteside isn't half the player Cousins is and will cost more. I understand people's reluctance to give up a top 2 pick, if that is where it lands, however we are building a team to compete in the next few years not in half a decade plus. It will take at least one Brooklyn pick, more likely two, for us to get ANY star in this league. That is the price we must be willing to pay. Yes we can go through FA but there is no guarantee to that. Also trading for Cousins or another star would not be at the expense of picking someone else up in FA.

His value is getting damaged more and more by the day. The organization needs to move on and they know it. Please remember:
1. Cousins does not have to re-sign with the Kings
2. Kings are not getting any FA's
3. RR is prob gone
4. Cousins has 2 years left and could bolt from whatever team he is traded to. Imagine giving up the next T-Mac/KD hybrid for a Cousins rental of 2 years......

Those are just some of the reasons why Cousins is not worth anymore than a top2 pick. Especially for the Kings who will be prob starting over again with a top pick in this draft, WCS, and a top pick in 2017 draft(if they trade Cousins)

True, however a star on a contract like his is hard to come by. In fact I can't think of another. Sacdomt have to trade him this summer, they could give it one more go this year. Plus we wouldn't be the only ones interested. Multiple interested parties will push up his price. Kevin Love cost Andrew Wiggins, at the time most saw that as an even trade.

I don't think Cousins is the type to bolt if he came here. He hasn't shown that as a personality trait. Compare him to Dwight Howard and you can see the difference.

A tuned in Cousins is the best center in the league, he's in his prime, fits a position of dire need and would be surrounded by some of the most down to earth guys in the league. Every even trade is a risk, but this one would be a risk worth taking

It's a even trade because it's Love+Lebon for wiggins
Now if Kings add WCS+2017pick i will start to consider it

[FreddieJ]

Id easily trade the Brooklyn pick for him. No doubt in my mind. Id also consider adding Smart, but Id rather not.

Would likely cost Smart/AB, Brk 16, Dal 16 and KO . They likely also want an additional Brk pick .......

Well that's not worth it. Players are like stocks and Cousins stock is volitile right now with only 2 years left on his deal. The Kings HAVE to trade him because there is no way in hell he is resigning there.

If we end up with the 1st or 2nd pick you could make the case that it is not worth it for us to trade JUST that pick for Cousins because of his behavior and years on his deal, because he could bolt.

I want Cousins because IMO that would prob make us Durant's #1 choice by far, especially since we could sign Ibaka/ Durant the next year. But getting Cousins should only cost us a pick and if it is the first pick then maybe even
1st pick,16th pick
4
Cousins + 8th pick

Yea I don't really see the kings giving up the best center in the league, and the 8th pick just for a rookie who may never hit cousins level (with his mentality and all) and the 16th pick.

We would have to go all in picks wise this year and include young assets to get their attention. And they wouldn't be including the 8th pick.

Cousins is damaged goods. He may command a top 2 pick and a few other picks but not like you are saying. I personally would sign Whiteside and keep our picks.

Whiteside isn't half the player Cousins is and will cost more. I understand people's reluctance to give up a top 2 pick, if that is where it lands, however we are building a team to compete in the next few years not in half a decade plus. It will take at least one Brooklyn pick, more likely two, for us to get ANY star in this league. That is the price we must be willing to pay. Yes we can go through FA but there is no guarantee to that. Also trading for Cousins or another star would not be at the expense of picking someone else up in FA.

His value is getting damaged more and more by the day. The organization needs to move on and they know it. Please remember:
1. Cousins does not have to re-sign with the Kings
2. Kings are not getting any FA's
3. RR is prob gone
4. Cousins has 2 years left and could bolt from whatever team he is traded to. Imagine giving up the next T-Mac/KD hybrid for a Cousins rental of 2 years......

Those are just some of the reasons why Cousins is not worth anymore than a top2 pick. Especially for the Kings who will be prob starting over again with a top pick in this draft, WCS, and a top pick in 2017 draft(if they trade Cousins)

True, however a star on a contract like his is hard to come by. In fact I can't think of another. Sacdomt have to trade him this summer, they could give it one more go this year. Plus we wouldn't be the only ones interested. Multiple interested parties will push up his price. Kevin Love cost Andrew Wiggins, at the time most saw that as an even trade.

I don't think Cousins is the type to bolt if he came here. He hasn't shown that as a personality trait. Compare him to Dwight Howard and you can see the difference.

A tuned in Cousins is the best center in the league, he's in his prime, fits a position of dire need and would be surrounded by some of the most down to earth guys in the league. Every even trade is a risk, but this one would be a risk worth taking

It's a even trade because it's Love+Lebon for wiggins
Now if Kings add WCS+2017pick i will start to consider it

Boston has no package for the Kings to consider that

[playdream]

Id easily trade the Brooklyn pick for him. No doubt in my mind. Id also consider adding Smart, but Id rather not.

Would likely cost Smart/AB, Brk 16, Dal 16 and KO . They likely also want an additional Brk pick .......

Well that's not worth it. Players are like stocks and Cousins stock is volitile right now with only 2 years left on his deal. The Kings HAVE to trade him because there is no way in hell he is resigning there.

If we end up with the 1st or 2nd pick you could make the case that it is not worth it for us to trade JUST that pick for Cousins because of his behavior and years on his deal, because he could bolt.

I want Cousins because IMO that would prob make us Durant's #1 choice by far, especially since we could sign Ibaka/ Durant the next year. But getting Cousins should only cost us a pick and if it is the first pick then maybe even
1st pick,16th pick
4
Cousins + 8th pick

Yea I don't really see the kings giving up the best center in the league, and the 8th pick just for a rookie who may never hit cousins level (with his mentality and all) and the 16th pick.

We would have to go all in picks wise this year and include young assets to get their attention. And they wouldn't be including the 8th pick.

Cousins is damaged goods. He may command a top 2 pick and a few other picks but not like you are saying. I personally would sign Whiteside and keep our picks.

Whiteside isn't half the player Cousins is and will cost more. I understand people's reluctance to give up a top 2 pick, if that is where it lands, however we are building a team to compete in the next few years not in half a decade plus. It will take at least one Brooklyn pick, more likely two, for us to get ANY star in this league. That is the price we must be willing to pay. Yes we can go through FA but there is no guarantee to that. Also trading for Cousins or another star would not be at the expense of picking someone else up in FA.

His value is getting damaged more and more by the day. The organization needs to move on and they know it. Please remember:
1. Cousins does not have to re-sign with the Kings
2. Kings are not getting any FA's
3. RR is prob gone
4. Cousins has 2 years left and could bolt from whatever team he is traded to. Imagine giving up the next T-Mac/KD hybrid for a Cousins rental of 2 years......

Those are just some of the reasons why Cousins is not worth anymore than a top2 pick. Especially for the Kings who will be prob starting over again with a top pick in this draft, WCS, and a top pick in 2017 draft(if they trade Cousins)

True, however a star on a contract like his is hard to come by. In fact I can't think of another. Sacdomt have to trade him this summer, they could give it one more go this year. Plus we wouldn't be the only ones interested. Multiple interested parties will push up his price. Kevin Love cost Andrew Wiggins, at the time most saw that as an even trade.

I don't think Cousins is the type to bolt if he came here. He hasn't shown that as a personality trait. Compare him to Dwight Howard and you can see the difference.

A tuned in Cousins is the best center in the league, he's in his prime, fits a position of dire need and would be surrounded by some of the most down to earth guys in the league. Every even trade is a risk, but this one would be a risk worth taking

It's a even trade because it's Love+Lebon for wiggins
Now if Kings add WCS+2017pick i will start to consider it

Boston has no package for the Kings to consider that

Then they can watch DMC leave or trade for whoever and watch him leave in 2~3years and keep sucking, i am fine with keeping Simmons/Ingran for 10 years

[Future Celtics Owner]

What makes you think that an unproven rookie who hasn't played a minute in the nba with minor red flags is alone worth a 24/25 year old center who is the most skilled big center in a generation? (Towns is coming for that crown) we would have to include more than just the 2nd. And it would be worth it.

Which rookie has the red flags? My #1 has been Ingram since 2 years ago, but both 1 and 2 picks are great picks to start a franchise around. Also, the 2017 draft has some pretty good players in it and some of them are Centers. I'm sure the Kings will want a top pick and Cousins keeps them around the 5-10 range.

You are also right about Cousins being the best skilled BIG in the game. He also gets almost 11 fta attempts a game and will get the other teams bigs in foul trouble.

But IMO, with the climate at the Kings, the fact Cousins wants out, Cousins won't re-sign, Cousins will continue to hurt his value with behavior issues, and etc...all points to the Kings parting ways.
2 years of Cousins or 10 years of the new hybrid of basketball player?

You sound as if we are buying Cousins like he is a mindless slave.....the dude can bolt in 2 years! Then what.

Also, Karl Towns does not have the length that Cousins has. We will see how that affects him at CENTER, but Towns is a player.....so is Myles Turner too.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Id easily trade the Brooklyn pick for him. No doubt in my mind. Id also consider adding Smart, but Id rather not.

Would likely cost Smart/AB, Brk 16, Dal 16 and KO . They likely also want an additional Brk pick .......

Well that's not worth it. Players are like stocks and Cousins stock is volitile right now with only 2 years left on his deal. The Kings HAVE to trade him because there is no way in hell he is resigning there.

If we end up with the 1st or 2nd pick you could make the case that it is not worth it for us to trade JUST that pick for Cousins because of his behavior and years on his deal, because he could bolt.

I want Cousins because IMO that would prob make us Durant's #1 choice by far, especially since we could sign Ibaka/ Durant the next year. But getting Cousins should only cost us a pick and if it is the first pick then maybe even
1st pick,16th pick
4
Cousins + 8th pick

Yea I don't really see the kings giving up the best center in the league, and the 8th pick just for a rookie who may never hit cousins level (with his mentality and all) and the 16th pick.

We would have to go all in picks wise this year and include young assets to get their attention. And they wouldn't be including the 8th pick.

Cousins is damaged goods. He may command a top 2 pick and a few other picks but not like you are saying. I personally would sign Whiteside and keep our picks.

Whiteside isn't half the player Cousins is and will cost more. I understand people's reluctance to give up a top 2 pick, if that is where it lands, however we are building a team to compete in the next few years not in half a decade plus. It will take at least one Brooklyn pick, more likely two, for us to get ANY star in this league. That is the price we must be willing to pay. Yes we can go through FA but there is no guarantee to that. Also trading for Cousins or another star would not be at the expense of picking someone else up in FA.

His value is getting damaged more and more by the day. The organization needs to move on and they know it. Please remember:
1. Cousins does not have to re-sign with the Kings
2. Kings are not getting any FA's
3. RR is prob gone
4. Cousins has 2 years left and could bolt from whatever team he is traded to. Imagine giving up the next T-Mac/KD hybrid for a Cousins rental of 2 years......

Those are just some of the reasons why Cousins is not worth anymore than a top2 pick. Especially for the Kings who will be prob starting over again with a top pick in this draft, WCS, and a top pick in 2017 draft(if they trade Cousins)

True, however a star on a contract like his is hard to come by. In fact I can't think of another. Sacdomt have to trade him this summer, they could give it one more go this year. Plus we wouldn't be the only ones interested. Multiple interested parties will push up his price. Kevin Love cost Andrew Wiggins, at the time most saw that as an even trade.

I don't think Cousins is the type to bolt if he came here. He hasn't shown that as a personality trait. Compare him to Dwight Howard and you can see the difference.

A tuned in Cousins is the best center in the league, he's in his prime, fits a position of dire need and would be surrounded by some of the most down to earth guys in the league. Every even trade is a risk, but this one would be a risk worth taking

It's a even trade because it's Love+Lebon for wiggins
Now if Kings add WCS+2017pick i will start to consider it

Boston has no package for the Kings to consider that

Then they can watch DMC leave or trade for whoever and watch him leave in 2~3years and keep sucking, i am fine with keeping Simmons/Ingran for 10 years

exactly

[FreddieJ]

What makes you think that an unproven rookie who hasn't played a minute in the nba with minor red flags is alone worth a 24/25 year old center who is the most skilled big center in a generation? (Towns is coming for that crown) we would have to include more than just the 2nd. And it would be worth it.

Which rookie has the red flags? My #1 has been Ingram since 2 years ago, but both 1 and 2 picks are great picks to start a franchise around. Also, the 2017 draft has some pretty good players in it and some of them are Centers. I'm sure the Kings will want a top pick and Cousins keeps them around the 5-10 range.

You are also right about Cousins being the best skilled BIG in the game. He also gets almost 11 fta attempts a game and will get the other teams bigs in foul trouble.

But IMO, with the climate at the Kings, the fact Cousins wants out, Cousins won't re-sign, Cousins will continue to hurt his value with behavior issues, and etc...all points to the Kings parting ways.
2 years of Cousins or 10 years of the new hybrid of basketball player?

You sound as if we are buying Cousins like he is a mindless slave.....the dude can bolt in 2 years! Then what.

Also, Karl Towns does not have the length that Cousins has. We will see how that affects him at CENTER, but Towns is a player.....so is Myles Turner too.

He has said he wants to retire in Sac. His bolting isn't a strong fear as of now

[max215]

2016 Nets, Mavs, and Celts Picks, Smart and/or AB for Cousins (and Casspi if possible)

I'd do that happily. My only concern is what number would Boogie wear? Maybe Tommy let's him wear #15, but that seems unlikely. I doubt #5 is available either. We're also going to have trouble getting KD a suitable number, because I strongly doubt he's wearing Lewis' #35.