What if Brooklyn signs Durant this Summer.

[LarBrd33]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because

See above.  Relevant article was relevant.  Relevant article deserved to be shared.  If I see a trade rumor about Derrick Rose or Dwight Howard potentially getting traded to Brooklyn, I'm not going to sit on it, because of your feelings.   This is a Celtic forum.  We are Brooklyn's daddy for the next 3 years.  News and speculation about them is our business now.   Act accordingly.

When I see a front page article on ESPN about Kevin Durant potentially going to Brooklyn, I scan this forum and see nobody else has posted about it yet... you best believe I'll start a thread about it. 

It begs the question... what if Brooklyn signs Durant this summer?

[celticsclay]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because

See above.  Relevant article was relevant.  Relevant article deserved to be shared.  If I see a trade rumor about Derrick Rose or Dwight Howard potentially getting traded to Brooklyn, I'm not going to sit on it, because of your feelings.   This is a Celtic forum.  We are Brooklyn's daddy for the next 3 years.  News and speculation about them is our business now.   Act accordingly.

When I see a front page article on ESPN about Kevin Durant potentially going to Brooklyn, I scan this forum and see nobody else has posted about it yet... you best believe I'll start a thread about it. 

It begs the question... what if Brooklyn signs Durant this summer?

I will grant you it is bizarre that the article made it to ESPN. It doesn't add any compelling reason and really seems like a fan forum blog post that is pretty poorly constructed and written. I think the other poster probably summed it up past that they are trying to put out a puff piece for brooklyn because of how bleak one of the larger market's future is and to give fans in that area something to talk about.

If you take a step back from the attention grabbing headline, there is just not a lot of substance here to debate so it really becomes no bigger a thread than what if Brooklyn got Davis in a trade, What if Brooklyn got curry? They are hypothetical exercises but nothing to them that is worth investing time in right now. Now fast forward to the summer if they actually get a meeting or something I would be interested in debating it and the implications.

[10610786d]

I will grant you it is bizarre that the article made it to ESPN.

It's not bizarre really. Their journalism revolves around clickbaiting.

[LarBrd33]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because

See above.  Relevant article was relevant.  Relevant article deserved to be shared.  If I see a trade rumor about Derrick Rose or Dwight Howard potentially getting traded to Brooklyn, I'm not going to sit on it, because of your feelings.   This is a Celtic forum.  We are Brooklyn's daddy for the next 3 years.  News and speculation about them is our business now.   Act accordingly.

When I see a front page article on ESPN about Kevin Durant potentially going to Brooklyn, I scan this forum and see nobody else has posted about it yet... you best believe I'll start a thread about it. 

It begs the question... what if Brooklyn signs Durant this summer?

I will grant you it is bizarre that the article made it to ESPN. It doesn't add any compelling reason and really seems like a fan forum blog post that is pretty poorly constructed and written. I think the other poster probably summed it up past that they are trying to put out a puff piece for brooklyn because of how bleak one of the larger market's future is and to give fans in that area something to talk about.

If you take a step back from the attention grabbing headline, there is just not a lot of substance here to debate so it really becomes no bigger a thread than what if Brooklyn got Davis in a trade, What if Brooklyn got curry? They are hypothetical exercises but nothing to them that is worth investing time in right now. Now fast forward to the summer if they actually get a meeting or something I would be interested in debating it and the implications.

I agree... unless Mazzeo knows more than he's letting on, that's a pretty bold article to publish on ESPN.  Suggesting that Durant will end up in Brooklyn because of Roc Nation is the equivallent of suggesting that Eric Bledsoe is going to end up in Cleveland, because he's repped by Rich Paul. 

Fwiw, I never presented this article as if it was evidence Brooklyn would sign Kevin Durant.  Here's what I said in the first post:  "Probably unlikely, but speaks to one of the reasons I don't value those future Brooklyn picks all that much.  They play in Brooklyn and will have cap space... you can't rule out the possibility of them building a competent team regardless of having no draft picks."

That's been a ton of discussion about how doomed Brooklyn is.  They'll have max money this summer.  They already have a couple talented players.  They can easily add a couple guys this summer that can make them mediocre.  It was just interesting to see ESPN suggest that they could not only land free agents, but potentially the best one available.    Go back a handful of years ago and Brooklyn adding impact talent via free agency was a totally reasonable expectation.  What I don't understand is why people think totally unlikely now.  They might as well be the Lakers or the Knicks.  Brooklyn Nets will be a free agent draw.   

[HomerSapien]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because

See above.  Relevant article was relevant.  Relevant article deserved to be shared.  If I see a trade rumor about Derrick Rose or Dwight Howard potentially getting traded to Brooklyn, I'm not going to sit on it, because of your feelings.   This is a Celtic forum.  We are Brooklyn's daddy for the next 3 years.  News and speculation about them is our business now.   Act accordingly.

When I see a front page article on ESPN about Kevin Durant potentially going to Brooklyn, I scan this forum and see nobody else has posted about it yet... you best believe I'll start a thread about it. 

It begs the question... what if Brooklyn signs Durant this summer?

I will grant you it is bizarre that the article made it to ESPN. It doesn't add any compelling reason and really seems like a fan forum blog post that is pretty poorly constructed and written. I think the other poster probably summed it up past that they are trying to put out a puff piece for brooklyn because of how bleak one of the larger market's future is and to give fans in that area something to talk about.

If you take a step back from the attention grabbing headline, there is just not a lot of substance here to debate so it really becomes no bigger a thread than what if Brooklyn got Davis in a trade, What if Brooklyn got curry? They are hypothetical exercises but nothing to them that is worth investing time in right now. Now fast forward to the summer if they actually get a meeting or something I would be interested in debating it and the implications.

I agree... unless Mazzeo knows more than he's letting on, that's a pretty bold article to publish on ESPN.  Suggesting that Durant will end up in Brooklyn because of Roc Nation is the equivallent of suggesting that Eric Bledsoe is going to end up in Cleveland, because he's repped by Rich Paul. 

Fwiw, I never presented this article as if it was evidence Brooklyn would sign Kevin Durant.  Here's what I said in the first post:  "Probably unlikely, but speaks to one of the reasons I don't value those future Brooklyn picks all that much.  They play in Brooklyn and will have cap space... you can't rule out the possibility of them building a competent team regardless of having no draft picks."

That's been a ton of discussion about how doomed Brooklyn is.  They'll have max money this summer.  They already have a couple talented players.  They can easily add a couple guys this summer that can make them mediocre.  It was just interesting to see ESPN suggest that they could not only land free agents, but potentially the best one available.    Go back a handful of years ago and Brooklyn adding impact talent via free agency was a totally reasonable expectation.  What I don't understand is why people think totally unlikely now.  They might as well be the Lakers or the Knicks.  Brooklyn Nets will be a free agent draw.

The hopelessness of Brooklyn's situation is overplayed.  Is it bad - yes.  Do they have no picks to help them acquire players - yes.  Is it impossible to overcome - no.  The Knicks were in cap hell a year ago and manage to put themselves in a position where they could sign competent NBA players a year later.  Brooklyn could theoretically do the same.

The biggest thing for me with the Nets is who they hire as GM.  If they hire a smart decision maker, that could be really bad for our 2018 pick in particular.  If they hire a boob like Billy King 2.0, then let the good times roll.

With what we know now though, I still don't think there are too many teams whose future picks I'd rather own.

[LarBrd33]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because

See above.  Relevant article was relevant.  Relevant article deserved to be shared.  If I see a trade rumor about Derrick Rose or Dwight Howard potentially getting traded to Brooklyn, I'm not going to sit on it, because of your feelings.   This is a Celtic forum.  We are Brooklyn's daddy for the next 3 years.  News and speculation about them is our business now.   Act accordingly.

When I see a front page article on ESPN about Kevin Durant potentially going to Brooklyn, I scan this forum and see nobody else has posted about it yet... you best believe I'll start a thread about it. 

It begs the question... what if Brooklyn signs Durant this summer?

I will grant you it is bizarre that the article made it to ESPN. It doesn't add any compelling reason and really seems like a fan forum blog post that is pretty poorly constructed and written. I think the other poster probably summed it up past that they are trying to put out a puff piece for brooklyn because of how bleak one of the larger market's future is and to give fans in that area something to talk about.

If you take a step back from the attention grabbing headline, there is just not a lot of substance here to debate so it really becomes no bigger a thread than what if Brooklyn got Davis in a trade, What if Brooklyn got curry? They are hypothetical exercises but nothing to them that is worth investing time in right now. Now fast forward to the summer if they actually get a meeting or something I would be interested in debating it and the implications.

I agree... unless Mazzeo knows more than he's letting on, that's a pretty bold article to publish on ESPN.  Suggesting that Durant will end up in Brooklyn because of Roc Nation is the equivallent of suggesting that Eric Bledsoe is going to end up in Cleveland, because he's repped by Rich Paul. 

Fwiw, I never presented this article as if it was evidence Brooklyn would sign Kevin Durant.  Here's what I said in the first post:  "Probably unlikely, but speaks to one of the reasons I don't value those future Brooklyn picks all that much.  They play in Brooklyn and will have cap space... you can't rule out the possibility of them building a competent team regardless of having no draft picks."

That's been a ton of discussion about how doomed Brooklyn is.  They'll have max money this summer.  They already have a couple talented players.  They can easily add a couple guys this summer that can make them mediocre.  It was just interesting to see ESPN suggest that they could not only land free agents, but potentially the best one available.    Go back a handful of years ago and Brooklyn adding impact talent via free agency was a totally reasonable expectation.  What I don't understand is why people think totally unlikely now.  They might as well be the Lakers or the Knicks.  Brooklyn Nets will be a free agent draw.

The hopelessness of Brooklyn's situation is overplayed.  Is it bad - yes.  Do they have no picks to help them acquire players - yes.  Is it impossible to overcome - no.  The Knicks were in cap hell a year ago and manage to put themselves in a position where they could sign competent NBA players a year later.  Brooklyn could theoretically do the same.

The biggest thing for me with the Nets is who they hire as GM.  If they hire a smart decision maker, that could be really bad for our 2018 pick in particular.  If they hire a boob like Billy King 2.0, then let the good times roll.

With what we know now though, I still don't think there are too many teams whose future picks I'd rather own.

Fair point.   Pretty much every team will have cap space. 

[trickybilly]

Another interesting question is 'when are each of the bkn picks at their highest value'? Obviously the moment a big name or two (albeit unlikely, relax) signs in BKN, the picks' trade value plummets. The chess game for danny is making sure they are traded before that FA signs. Danny will be listening to every rumor in Tajikistan about BKN to time trading the picks. He may even do sneaky things with other teams to thwart the FA signing..

Of course, whether or not you like Love or Howard or boogie is peripheral. But in terms of maximising value, this story is uber relevant.

[colincb]

ESPN posts a click-bait article and LarBrd runs with it. Nets fans, not so much:

I see that a lot of drugs were taken during this snowstorm.

and other gems at:

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/1/23/10820472/kevin-durant-a-brooklyn-net-mike-mazzeo-thinks-its-possible

[LooseCannon]

If there's a front office that can sign Durant and still find a way to screw up the rest of the roster to end up in the lottery, it is probably the Nets.

[Granath]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because you wanted to continue an argument with Celtics fans on a Celtics blog who you think committed the mortal sin of being too positive about something good for the Celtics.

If that's how you want to behave...so be it.  At the very least, however, you can spare us the whining.

Mike

TP

Lar, the act has gotten predictable and stale. You post outlandish things just to get a reaction. Everyone here knows it. So don't whine if people troll you the way you troll this forum.

[GreenFaith1819]

The better that Rondo is doing in SAC...the closer that SAC is getting to 500 ball.....the less that Larbrd33 has to post about.

His usual source of posting is drying up.

With that being said, I'd be shocked if KD winds up in BKN next season.

[slamtheking]

The moral of the story is

The moral of THIS story is that you come here and deliberately provoke and antagonize people and are now whining about people giving you back the same treatment.  I mean, if you at least denied it then the excuse could be made that you don't know what you're doing.  But you openly confessed here that you were just trying to stir up some nonsense.

Mike

False. 

I post about the Celtics.  I speak to their mediocrity, because they are mediocre... people take offense to it.   

you're missing what people are actually taking offense to.  it's one thing to point out the team is mediocre -- I do the same thing currently.  the thing is LB, you talk about every other team as though they're all vastly superior to the C's in some manner.  the thing that bothers a number of posters is constant negativity towards the C's and the praise for everyone else. 

if you believe this to be an incorrect interpretation of your posts, perhaps you should take a second look at what you post and the tone of it.   your posts/threads often degrade into the very thing we see happening here.  it's a pattern that many people see

[Neurotic Guy]

Strangely (I guess), I don't see larbrd as even close to being among the most negative posters in cblog history.  I find many of his posts interesting and frankly almost never find myself angry with his conclusions (though I often dont agree).    He's admitted to being a pessimist by nature and thus has a hard time believing positive outcomes will occur -- though at times he has acknowledged the positive.  If any of you recall great cblog posters like scintan or brickowski, they brought more negativity than larbrd ever has.  And it made cblog even more interesting.

Im not advocating trolling and I may be misinterpreting larbrd's intent.  He might just post to annoy. But I don't think so.  I think he presents what he thinks about or  worries about -- and it just happens that he does so more darkly and more prolifically than most. 

[ederson]

Im not advocating trolling and I may be misinterpreting larbrd's intent.  He might just post to annoy. But I don't think so.  I think he presents what he thinks about or  worries about -- and it just happens that he does so more darkly and more prolifically than most.

i really doubt he is trolling .... But i think when Pitino (sorry for mentioning him) said "all the negativity that's in this town sucks" had something like this in  mind....

The article is the joke...Is there a team that won`t try to get Durant? The article could be about any team in the league.So why don`t we discuss about "what if the C`s get Durant" Or "What if the C`s win the first pick".

[Eddie20]

He's admitted to being a pessimist by nature and thus has a hard time believing positive outcomes will occur

The problem is that there is a no consistency to his pessimism. When it comes to the C's, the glass is half-empty. However, the rest of the league gets a glass half-full vibe from him. I would actually respect his opinion, and I imagine he would receive less backlash , if he was consistent in his overall negativity. The irritating thing is that he's very optimistic about teams that we have a rivalary with (Sixers and Lakers) or have valued picks from (Nets) and these thoughts echo from post to post and thread to thread ad nauseam. He knows what he does and it's his motives that are questioned as it screams of being purposely antagonistic in order to cause a rise from other forum members.