What if Brooklyn signs Durant this Summer.

[tarheelsxxiii]

What if I magically grow a respectable sized phallus?

[MBunge]

I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.

Your complaints about others would have more merit if you hadn't admitted you started this whole thread just to stick your finger in eyes of other people who post here.

Mike

[BudweiserCeltic]

The problem of the premise of this thread is the "I don't value the Brooklyn draft picks because there's an off chance of the franchise improving".

Well duh, that's always a risk... but using Durant as the very very slim possibility to support your stance is a head scratcher. Nothing in this world is a given, but chances right now are that it'll be a while before Brooklyn puts it together. That they still have an opportunity to put a good team together during the off season... well sure, but the chances don't favor them. You can say pretty much the same about every single team, with few exceptions, in the league right now.

So that's where this thread failed at having a chance of having a worthwhile discussion. Might as well discredit every single future draft pick teams may have in their arsenal. Let's also expand to not valuing good players just because on the off chance they might have season ending surgery. Everything has it's own set of risks. We'll cross that river when it happens.

But sure, let's be cautious about getting future draft picks, Kevin Durant is right around the corner for any team with cap space with varying degrees of probabilities.

[GC003332]

Interesting article on ESPN about the potential of Brooklyn signing Kevin Durant:  http://espn.go.com/blog/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/23429/examining-a-seemingly-implausible-scenario-durant-to-nets

Probably unlikely, but speaks to one of the reasons I don't value those future Brooklyn picks all that much.  They play in Brooklyn and will have cap space... you can't rule out the possibility of them building a competent team regardless of having no draft picks.

This season is panning out wonderfully, though.  Gotta love the potential to add a top 5 pick from them this Summer.

Boston Celtics fans are excited over the mess that is the Brooklyn Nets, we can't have that can we.Can we Andy?
That one line disclaimer that you write at the end your posts regarding your love for the Nets 2016 pick is cute though

[mctyson]

His overall point is solid though.  The 2018 pick should be the first one we throw in any trade.  Brooklyn very easily can be a playoff team by that time.

[Eja117]

How dismissive would the OP be if it were talking about the possibility of Durant signing with the Cs? Either way, it's nonsense.

if ESPN wrote a front page article about the distinct possibility of Durant joining Boston this summer, I'd gladly share it.

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

Let's use recent history as what will happen with Brooklyn.


The Knicks this past summer.

Play in a huge market (bigger than Brooklyn in fact)..check

Had cap space (without the amount of teams with cap space this summer)...check

Had a couple of decent players star....check


The best they did was sign Afflalo and R. Lopez and badly whiffed on Monroe (signed with Milwaukee) and Alridge (signed with San Antonio).

You're very optimistic when it comes to non-Celtics news.

Eddie, I ignore 90% of what you write on these forums these days. It seems your sole existence on this forum is to troll me and misrepresent my opinions.  Go find someone else to harass.

Yeah but you kinda troll the whole forum and everywhere you go, so when eddie is spot on with his answer it kinda evens out

[slamtheking]

Interesting article on ESPN about the potential of Brooklyn signing Kevin Durant:  http://espn.go.com/blog/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/23429/examining-a-seemingly-implausible-scenario-durant-to-nets

Probably unlikely, but speaks to one of the reasons I don't value those future Brooklyn picks all that much. They play in Brooklyn and will have cap space... you can't rule out the possibility of them building a competent team regardless of having no draft picks.

This season is panning out wonderfully, though.  Gotta love the potential to add a top 5 pick from them this Summer. 

and that speaks to the reason very few put any stock in anything you say.  as someone else said previously, if the article said Celtics instead of Nets (which would be a far more likely scenario) you'd bash that possibility as a ridiculous impossibility.

Complete nonsense. 

I shared an article from the front page of ESPN about Durant and Brooklyn.   If you don't like it, go troll ESPN.

Fyi, I keep bumping a thread I created about how Kevin love could still possibly be traded. Obviously suggesting that Boston could still grab him, however unlikely...  So the premise that I'd bash an ESPN article about Durant possibly coming to Boston is pretty moronic.

Also in multiple threads I've defended bostons free agency potential.  In several threads I've pointed out that ainge is unlikely to trade for someone like Gallo, because he wants to maintain enough cap space to go after a couple superstars like Durant (however unlikely).  So perhaps before someone puts my name on the streets they oughta put word in with me first. 

LB,
if there was a vote here about which of us is a troll, I don't think you'd get the results you'd want.  you post a lot of negative comments about the C's. 

you posted this past offseason that you thought the Nets were a playoff team.  You've posted (and supported) that the future Brooklyn picks won't be worth much because you think they're some sort of free agent destination because they have money regardless of the fact that this past offseason showed that being a franchise in a glitz location isn't enough to lure a FA.  FAs have been trending towards signing with contenders and/or up-and-coming teams rather than just jumping at glitz or high money (that everyone else will be able to offer next summer).  Boston is a far more likely landing place for a top FA than Brooklyn which has shown they are most definitely on the slide downward.

[LarBrd33]

I'm starting to think I'm not beloved on this forum.

What do you guys think... should we all just send nasty meanypants letters to Mike Mazzeo for not writing about Kevin Durant potentially coming to Boston?... or do you think we should just get a petition going demanding that ESPN acknowledge that Boston is a better landing spot for Durant than Brooklyn?  How about we get a class action lawsuit going against Mazzeo for attempting to damage the perceived trade value of our 2017 and 2018 Brooklyn picks by suggesting Durant would actually consider playing in Brooklyn.  Which would make you guys happier?

[GratefulCs]

I'm starting to think I'm not beloved on this forum.

i don't know..


i think this forum would be a lot more boring without your presence

[LarBrd33]

Moral of the story, no future draft pick is safe because of the slim chance of having Kevin Durant join their forces. Got it.

We've seen a lot of articles about how doomed Brooklyn is.  They are apparently hopeless, because they don't have draft picks. 

They are a bottom 3 team right now.  It's wonderful for us.  It's by far the highlight of this season.  The potential to land an impact player from them is tremendous. 

Some seem to think we will continue to land top 5 picks from them, because they are hopeless.  I don't agree they are doomed.  There's still moves they could make before the deadline that could make them semi decent this season.  I saw the article on ESPN about Durant potentially going to Brooklyn and thought it was interesting primarily, because it ran counter to the common narrative.  In a sea of people saying Brooklyn is hopeless, here's someone on ESPN suggesting that not only could Brooklyn use their cap space to make an improvement... but that you can't even rule out the possibility of them adding a superstar.   It's a bold stance by Mazzeo.  His reasoning is the same reasoning people expect the Lakers and Knicks to be a big player in free agency (they generally are).  Brooklyn is an appealing business destination for a top-level player.  Being the face of that franchise has appeal.  Mazzeo includes a layer about Brooklyn's connections to Roc Nation.   

The moral of the story is, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Brooklyn will be mediocre over the next couple years.   That's relevant to our picks.  Ainge must be aware of this, because he reportedly offered at least one Brooklyn pick along with 5 other draft picks to try to move up from #16 to #9 this Summer.   I still wouldn't be totally comfortable seeing a Brooklyn pick moved without top 3 protection, but I think it's pretty unlikely Brooklyn heads into next season without some talent upgrades.  They have the money, they'll be entirely willing to spend it, and someone will take it. 

[MBunge]

The moral of the story is

The moral of THIS story is that you come here and deliberately provoke and antagonize people and are now whining about people giving you back the same treatment.  I mean, if you at least denied it then the excuse could be made that you don't know what you're doing.  But you openly confessed here that you were just trying to stir up some nonsense.

Mike

[LarBrd33]

The moral of the story is

The moral of THIS story is that you come here and deliberately provoke and antagonize people and are now whining about people giving you back the same treatment.  I mean, if you at least denied it then the excuse could be made that you don't know what you're doing.  But you openly confessed here that you were just trying to stir up some nonsense.

Mike

False. 

I post about the Celtics.  I speak to their mediocrity, because they are mediocre... people take offense to it.   When I speak to things I'm encouraged by (like Jae Crowder's play of late), folks like you take no notice of it.   You'd rather just focus on things you felt I was "negative" about. 

For instance, I'll say that Terry Rozier and RJ Hunter will spend the bulk of the season in D-League.   Folks like you label that as "deliberately provoking or antagonizing".  That's entirely ridiculous.  My opinion was based on my interpretation of the team.  I wasn't trying to provoke anyone by suggesting that Mickey Hunter would be buried by 8 other power forwards.    I had an opinion on the team that wasn't kool aid sunshine and rainbows... it was rooted in reality.   So then months later when Rozier and Hunter have spent the bulk of the season in D-league, do you ever come out and apologize to me for labeling my comments "provoking and antagonizing"?... of course not.  You'd rather just provoke and antagonize me.

If my opinion of this team reflects their mediocrity, it's because they are mediocre.  We're a borderline .500 team...  It is what it is.  I was quick to give Bradley props in November.  I am very encouraged by Crowders' play of late.   Thomas is putting up big stats.  I'm bullish on our potential in free agency.  Gotta love that Brooklyn pick right now.  At this point, I could say, "Celtics jerseys are Green" and some of you people would say, "There LarBrd33 goes again, insulting the Celtics"... 

[MBunge]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread for no other purpose than continuing an argument with Celtics fans on a Celtics blog who you think committed the mortal sin of being too positive about something good for the Celtics.

Again, if you didn't understand what you were doing, that might be one thing.  But you just admitted you do understand it and have now moved on to whining because people are calling you on your behavior.

Mike

[LarBrd33]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

I started this new thread to create a discussion about it, because nobody else had yet.  What if Brooklyn actually did sign Durant?   Is it something to be concerned about?   Should we look to move the picks before this summer?   How much of our future is dependent on those picks?   

You read into it what you wanted to read into it.   Frankly, you should be thanking me for contributing something of substance to this forum.  Your welcome.  It reminds me of the first hints of Dwight HOward getting moved to the Lakers or LeBron signing with Miami... they seemed ridiculous at first.  Obviously Mazzeo thought it was worth keeping an eye on or he wouldn't have written this article.  If you have concerns about the content, take it up with Mike Mazzeo and the folks at ESPN:  http://espn.go.com/blog/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/23429/examining-a-seemingly-implausible-scenario-durant-to-nets

NEW YORK -- It is very hard, as of Saturday -- the day before the Oklahoma City Thunder visit the Brooklyn Nets at snowy Barclays Center -- to envision a scenario in which Kevin Durant leaves Oklahoma City over the summer for a franchise seemingly in disarray like Brooklyn.

But rival agents suggest it would be unwise to dismiss that scenario entirely -- even if it makes no sense on the surface as of Jan. 23, 2016.

Because seriously: Why on earth would a superstar such as Durant be willing to leave Russell Westbrook, a franchise on pace for 60 wins and more money for a franchise without a coach, a GM or total control over its first-round pick until 2019 that is on pace for 20 wins?

Well, let's start here: Durant is represented by Roc Nation Sports and Jay Z. And which team did the hip-hop mogul turned power agent formerly hold a minority ownership stake in? The Nets. Now, let's add this: The president/chief of branding and strategy of Roc Nation is Michael Yormark. Who is his twin brother? CEO of Brooklyn Sports & Entertainment Brett Yormark.

Other potential enticing factors could include: the New York market and a chance to play home games in a topflight $1 billion arena; the potential for a prideful player such as Durant to be the top dog in town; and the opportunity to potentially play with more of a pass-first type of point guard, whom the Nets would have to acquire via free agency or trade.

Plus, regardless of whether Durant cares or not, there are no Golden State Warriors or San Antonio Spurs to contend with in the Eastern Conference. Just the Cleveland Cavaliers, and LeBron James, who will be 32 in December 2016.

Is it a pipe dream? Maybe. Maybe not. Plenty can happen between now and July 1, which still gives hope to a few teams -- including the Nets.

After all, Mikhail Prokhorov, the 6-foot-8 Russian billionaire who owns the team, hasn't backed off his belief -- perhaps delusional as it may be following his failed five-year title plan -- that the 11-33 Nets are maybe just one or two players away from championship contention.

Durant -- 2014 MVP, seven-time All-Star, four-time scoring champion, 2013 50/40/90 club member -- certainly fits the bill.

There will certainly be no shortage of suitors for his services: Golden State, Washington, the L.A. Lakers, Miami, New York and Houston (plus, obviously, OKC) all have been linked to No. 35.

The Nets don't exactly stand out from that pack. Their facilities may be world class, but their roster certainly isn't. Brook Lopez, Thaddeus Young, Bojan Bogdanovic, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and Chris McCullough are all quality pieces, but on this team, the first three are all playing in roles a peg or two above what would maximize their capabilities.

And it sure would be nice if the Nets would change the way they handle business -- hiring smart basketball people and then being hands-off. That means seeking out the opinions of multiple people on important decisions -- maybe even some of them who disagree (gasp) -- not just Dmitry Razumov turning to his bestie until the bitter end, Billy King, and asking the advice of the now demoted GM who turned the roster into a mess in the first place.

But adding a franchise-changing player such as Durant would give the Nets' fans reasons for hope and instantly put the team back into the local and national conversation. TV ratings and attendance would skyrocket -- as would jersey and merchandise sales.

Kevin Durant is everything the Nets want but don't have. Just don't count out the possibility -- as improbable as it may seem. Certainly not as of Jan. 23, 2016, anyway.

[MBunge]

I didn't write the article.  I thought it was relevant because it counters a lot of the "Brooklyn has no hope" nonsense.  They play in a huge market, have a couple decent players and cap space.  I wouldn't bank on those picks amounting to much.  They have no incentive to lose.

You started a new thread

I saw this article about Durant potentially signing with Brooklyn.   I shared it on this forum, because we own their draft picks.   I'm not going to apologize to you for following the Celtics closely and all stories related to them.

You shared it because you wanted to continue an argument with Celtics fans on a Celtics blog who you think committed the mortal sin of being too positive about something good for the Celtics.

If that's how you want to behave...so be it.  At the very least, however, you can spare us the whining.

Mike