Happy trails to Hinkie's Power.

[Dino Pitino]

Let's not open that can of worms, tankcity, it's been covered to death on these forums many times.

I mean everything mildly related to the 76ers has been. It kind of sucks the life out of the board. Karl Anthony Towns is one of the most exciting and talented young players I have seen come into the league in a few years but I don't think there has really been a single thread about him. We have had about 30 on Okafor this season (who I think even the biggest Okafor fans would admit is not as intriguing a prospect as Towns). I get they are division rivals, but it is still ridiculous.

They're division rivals whereas the Wolves are in another conference, and Okafor has major flaws whereas Towns is almost flawless, and Okafor was just rumored to be a Celtics trade target whereas Towns is 0.00% available. Nothing to argue about re: Towns, not much to say except, "Wow!"

[tankcity!]

Let's not open that can of worms, tankcity, it's been covered to death on these forums many times.

Lol alright. I'm pro tanking, but just wanted to point out the other side.

[mctyson]

I read Hinkie's resignation letter today and it was a complete joke.  The guy is completely full of himself and for what?  Philly could have hired a 4th grader to run the franchise into the ground for a few years to get high draft picks.  And sorry Sam...no free agent was EVER going to sign with Philly, especially with you there.

I am glad he quit. 

[Tr1boy]

What a failure hinkie was. That's all I got to say

[knuckleballer]

I read Hinkie's resignation letter today and it was a complete joke.  The guy is completely full of himself and for what?  Philly could have hired a 4th grader to run the franchise into the ground for a few years to get high draft picks.  And sorry Sam...no free agent was EVER going to sign with Philly, especially with you there.

I am glad he quit.

He basically compared himself to Abraham Lincoln, Warren Buffett, and many other extremely accomplished people.  Yeah, I'd say he's full of himself. 

It's poetic justice that in the end, he will not be a part of the rebuild just as all the players he brought in to lose games won't be either.  He was a means to a very ugly end and not a part of the team's future plans.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0406/nba_hinkie_redact.pdf

Amazing letter.

I want Ainge to hire Hinkie immediately as a future replacement, and to keep him away from all our competitors. He'd fit right in, because I bet Ainge and the rest of the Celtics front office will smile and nod vigorously throughout the whole letter as they read it, because I bet it almost totally describes their approach, too. Because it's the smartest approach, period.

LarBrd33 is right about Philly.

Yeah he took the right approach but it was idiotic to take it to the extreme levels he did. That is why people are frustrated. Is anyone complaining about the Lakers or suns this year? That's what lbrrd doesn't get.

I strongly disagree it was "idiotic" to take it to that level. It was bold and has an excellent shot of working.  I finally skimmed hinkies letter. It's most of what I already knew, but I encourage folks still confused by this situation to give it a read.  The team was in a bad cycle of losing. They needed a shake up.  He mentions they had to be willing to go prolonged periods of time being misunderstood.  It's spot on.  Even now people misunderstand that situation.  They need some luck and they need to make the right moves, but if philly is one of the hottest young teams in the league next season, nobody will be calling the past few seasons "idiotic".

Dude, windhorst just came on espn and said he burned a lot of bridges. He could tank like an other team, but why tell the world you're tanking? What is the benefit of it? Also it affected his relationships with agents. That does matter you know. I mean okafor hates playing for them. I still don't get why they're trading okafor. I mean that itself should tell you they're going in the wrong path.

Watch Okafor play defense. It'll explain a lot about why they want to trade him.

He's only a rookie and very very young. He's not a finished product. Why would you trade him? Are you depending on Embiid or Noel, aka Tyson Chandler?

Noel.

It also gets you help on the wing, and Noel's ability to finish at the rim is underrated. Noel at Center is already a huge defensive plus, Okafor isn't a plus anywhere yet. Just don't see how you win with a bad defensive center. Embiid is icing on the cake, I'm pretty confident Saric will be a really good player, he can shoot the 3 way better than when he was drafted, and is a terrific passer. He'll fit well next to Noel.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

What a failure hinkie was. That's all I got to say

Pretty easy to say that when he acquires 4 first round picks in a single offseason and isn't allowed to use any of them.

[PhoSita]

Let's not open that can of worms, tankcity, it's been covered to death on these forums many times.

I mean everything mildly related to the 76ers has been. It kind of sucks the life out of the board. Karl Anthony Towns is one of the most exciting and talented young players I have seen come into the league in a few years but I don't think there has really been a single thread about him. We have had about 30 on Okafor this season (who I think even the biggest Okafor fans would admit is not as intriguing a prospect as Towns). I get they are division rivals, but it is still ridiculous.

They're division rivals whereas the Wolves are in another conference, and Okafor has major flaws whereas Towns is almost flawless, and Okafor was just rumored to be a Celtics trade target whereas Towns is 0.00% available. Nothing to argue about re: Towns, not much to say except, "Wow!"

Yeah, I fully expect to spend plenty of time watching and talking about Towns eventually, when the Wolves finally make the playoffs again.

That's not guaranteed to happen, of course, but you'd think it'd be hard for even them to screw up what they've got going right now.

[PhoSita]

What a failure hinkie was. That's all I got to say

If they end up with #1 and #4 in this draft and trade Okafor for an established player, it starts to look less like a failure, though, doesn't it?

[celticsclay]

Let's not open that can of worms, tankcity, it's been covered to death on these forums many times.

I mean everything mildly related to the 76ers has been. It kind of sucks the life out of the board. Karl Anthony Towns is one of the most exciting and talented young players I have seen come into the league in a few years but I don't think there has really been a single thread about him. We have had about 30 on Okafor this season (who I think even the biggest Okafor fans would admit is not as intriguing a prospect as Towns). I get they are division rivals, but it is still ridiculous.

They're division rivals whereas the Wolves are in another conference, and Okafor has major flaws whereas Towns is almost flawless, and Okafor was just rumored to be a Celtics trade target whereas Towns is 0.00% available. Nothing to argue about re: Towns, not much to say except, "Wow!"

Yeah, I fully expect to spend plenty of time watching and talking about Towns eventually, when the Wolves finally make the playoffs again.

That's not guaranteed to happen, of course, but you'd think it'd be hard for even them to screw up what they've got going right now.

I mean if Rubio, Lavine, Dieng, Wiggins, Towns plus a top 5 or 6 pick this year don't turn into a playoff team I don't really understand basketball.

[Moranis]

What a failure hinkie was. That's all I got to say

If they end up with #1 and #4 in this draft and trade Okafor for an established player, it starts to look less like a failure, though, doesn't it?

They don't even need it to be an established player per se, just someone that makes more sense from roster construction.

Imagine they do get Simmons at 1, Murray at 4, Saric comes over, and Embiid by some miracle is healthy.  They obviously have to move Okafor in that scenario.  Say they get a SG.

PG - Murray/Smith
SG - ?/Stauskas
SF - Saric/Thompson
PF - Simmons/Covington
C - Noel/Embiid

All of a sudden that looks like a pretty attractive young team.

[Lucky17]

What a failure hinkie was. That's all I got to say

If they end up with #1 and #4 in this draft and trade Okafor for an established player, it starts to look less like a failure, though, doesn't it?

They don't even need it to be an established player per se, just someone that makes more sense from roster construction.

Imagine they do get Simmons at 1, Murray at 4, Saric comes over, and Embiid by some miracle is healthy.  They obviously have to move Okafor in that scenario.  Say they get a SG.

PG - Murray/Smith
SG - ?/Stauskas
SF - Saric/Thompson
PF - Simmons/Covington
C - Noel/Embiid

All of a sudden that looks like a pretty attractive young team.

Lot of growing pains. Can't see a team starting 3 rookies faring well. Could be good in a couple years, though.

[Emmette Bryant]

I read Hinkie's resignation letter today and it was a complete joke.  The guy is completely full of himself and for what?  Philly could have hired a 4th grader to run the franchise into the ground for a few years to get high draft picks.  And sorry Sam...no free agent was EVER going to sign with Philly, especially with you there.

I am glad he quit.

He basically compared himself to Abraham Lincoln, Warren Buffett, and many other extremely accomplished people.  Yeah, I'd say he's full of himself. 

It's poetic justice that in the end, he will not be a part of the rebuild just as all the players he brought in to lose games won't be either.  He was a means to a very ugly end and not a part of the team's future plans.

I haven't quit any jobs recently, but I believe that the rule of thumb on a letter of resignation  is that it's supposed to be short, sweet, and classy.

[PhoSita]

What a failure hinkie was. That's all I got to say

If they end up with #1 and #4 in this draft and trade Okafor for an established player, it starts to look less like a failure, though, doesn't it?

They don't even need it to be an established player per se, just someone that makes more sense from roster construction.

Imagine they do get Simmons at 1, Murray at 4, Saric comes over, and Embiid by some miracle is healthy.  They obviously have to move Okafor in that scenario.  Say they get a SG.

PG - Murray/Smith
SG - ?/Stauskas
SF - Saric/Thompson
PF - Simmons/Covington
C - Noel/Embiid

All of a sudden that looks like a pretty attractive young team.

Lot of growing pains. Can't see a team starting 3 rookies faring well. Could be good in a couple years, though.

Yeah.  I don't think there's any scenario in which they win a decent number of games next season, even if Simmons or Ingram is absolutely stupendous as a rookie.

Still, simply winning 20+ games, putting together a few stretches where they look competitive, and having an identifiable group of young players with star potential who can actually thrive together on the floor at the same time, would probably drastically alter the perception of them around the league and among casual fans.

[Emmette Bryant]

http://deadspin.com/the-idea-behind-the-process-is-wrong-and-always-has-be-1769688492

"The simple fact of the matter is that in three years Sam Hinkie showed that he was a poor talent evaluator. Nerlens Noel isn’t Steven Adams or Rudy Gobert, Michael Carter-Williams isn’t Giannis Antetokounmpo, Joel Embiid isn’t Aaron Gordon, Jahlil Okafor isn’t Kristaps Porzingis. Hinkie drafted over 10 players in the second round and tore through D-Leaguers and end-of-the-benchers via trade and ended up with just one (or maybe two) back-of-the-rotation players. One of the few times he did find something resembling real talent in the second round—K.J. McDaniels—Hinkie offered the player an insulting contract and soon traded him."