[RUMOR] Boston Celtics looking at Joakim Noah

[LarBrd33]

Nonsense source.  Trading for Noah would make sense though.  I wouldn't have expected a logical guess coming from "Christian post".

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

David Lee, Tyler Zeller and the Mavs pick.

(that'd be my offer)

I don't think Zeller or Lee would be a great fit with Taj Gibson or Pau Gasol, though, so that's a problem.  This wouldn't exactly help things for the Bulls.

I think Lee has to be the starting point for any Noah trade, otherwise we need to include too many people.  I wonder if Lee, Rozier, and a pick could get it done?

I'd have a hard time just letting go Rozier for Noah! Isnt he an expiring contract?

[BitterJim]

David Lee, Tyler Zeller and the Mavs pick.

(that'd be my offer)

I don't think Zeller or Lee would be a great fit with Taj Gibson or Pau Gasol, though, so that's a problem.  This wouldn't exactly help things for the Bulls.

I think Lee has to be the starting point for any Noah trade, otherwise we need to include too many people.  I wonder if Lee, Rozier, and a pick could get it done?

I'd have a hard time just letting go Rozier for Noah! Isnt he an expiring contract?

Yeah, ~$12 million expiring at the end of the year.  I'd hate to see Rozier go, but I can't imagine Young or Mickey would be enough, and don't want to give up Hunter

[saltlover]

It's pretty tricky to trade for Noah.  Lee is obviously our best salary for matching purposes, but he makes $2 million more than Noah this year, and the Bulls are already solidly in luxury tax territory, so they may not be inclined to take him on.  Trading Amir would be silly, and then our next largest salary would be Bradley, which doesn't make sense on a number of levels.  I haven't followed the Bulls enough to know if they have an additional player that they would dump to save luxury tax bills, but something like Lee and a pick for Noah costs them approximately $4 million in luxury tax.  If they got an additional young guy on top of it, the penalty would be even greater.

But if it could be worked out, I'm on board with a big rotation of Amir, Noah, Sully, and KO.  I think Noah is a very good fit for what Stevens is trying to do here.

[Lucky17]

It's pretty tricky to trade for Noah.  Lee is obviously our best salary for matching purposes, but he makes $2 million more than Noah this year, and the Bulls are already solidly in luxury tax territory, so they may not be inclined to take him on.  Trading Amir would be silly, and then our next largest salary would be Bradley, which doesn't make sense on a number of levels.  I haven't followed the Bulls enough to know if they have an additional player that they would dump to save luxury tax bills, but something like Lee and a pick for Noah costs them approximately $4 million in luxury tax.  If they got an additional young guy on top of it, the penalty would be even greater.

But if it could be worked out, I'm on board with a big rotation of Amir, Noah, Sully, and KO.  I think Noah is a very good fit for what Stevens is trying to do here.

Portland has enough cap space to absorb David Lee outright. What might they reasonably command in return for brokering a deal between Chicago and Boston?

[Quetzalcoatl]

Zeller, Rozier, Young and Turner for Noah works in the trade machine

[saltlover]

It's pretty tricky to trade for Noah.  Lee is obviously our best salary for matching purposes, but he makes $2 million more than Noah this year, and the Bulls are already solidly in luxury tax territory, so they may not be inclined to take him on.  Trading Amir would be silly, and then our next largest salary would be Bradley, which doesn't make sense on a number of levels.  I haven't followed the Bulls enough to know if they have an additional player that they would dump to save luxury tax bills, but something like Lee and a pick for Noah costs them approximately $4 million in luxury tax.  If they got an additional young guy on top of it, the penalty would be even greater.

But if it could be worked out, I'm on board with a big rotation of Amir, Noah, Sully, and KO.  I think Noah is a very good fit for what Stevens is trying to do here.

Portland has enough cap space to absorb David Lee outright. What might they reasonably command in return for brokering a deal between Chicago and Boston?

More than I'd be comfortable paying, given that Chicago is still going to want compensation for Noah.  The better option might be finding a team with a slightly cheaper expiring than Lee.  For instance, would the Wizards find Lee to be an upgrade over Nene?  (Don't know if they would.). But if they did, it could be Lee to Washington, Nene and a pick to Chicago, and Noah to Boston.  Chicago saves about $600k in tax payments this way, doesn't create a hole in their big rotation, and gets a pick.  If Lee is an upgrade, the Wizards improve without going over the tax -- perhaps the C's kick in some money to make it salary neutral.  And the C's get Noah.

[Donoghus]

I'm not buying for the rumor for a second based on these "sources" but playing around for a second, I would love to see another high motor guy like Noah on this roster playing with guys like Smart & Bradley.  From a pure entertainment value, it'd be amazing and, if healthy, would improve the team. 

[fairweatherfan]

I'm not buying for the rumor for a second based on these "sources" but playing around for a second, I would love to see another high motor guy like Noah on this roster playing with guys like Smart & Bradley.  From a pure entertainment value, it'd be amazing and, if healthy, would improve the team. 

Yeah the sources aren't strong, but he's a logical target, anyway - he fits our needs and approach fairly well, but doesn't really fit with Chicago's change in philosophy. 

But other posters are right, he's a very tricky get; good enough to not be a salary dump, but declining fast enough that teams are reluctant to pay much, especially at that $ amount.  Expiring deal makes for a good asset in terms of clearing cap space, but again, he's good enough as a player asset that teams won't want to risk him leaving right away.  And the Bulls being over the tax line makes it hard to make the salaries work if they flatly refuse to take more than they send.

[Lucky17]

It's pretty tricky to trade for Noah.  Lee is obviously our best salary for matching purposes, but he makes $2 million more than Noah this year, and the Bulls are already solidly in luxury tax territory, so they may not be inclined to take him on.  Trading Amir would be silly, and then our next largest salary would be Bradley, which doesn't make sense on a number of levels.  I haven't followed the Bulls enough to know if they have an additional player that they would dump to save luxury tax bills, but something like Lee and a pick for Noah costs them approximately $4 million in luxury tax.  If they got an additional young guy on top of it, the penalty would be even greater.

But if it could be worked out, I'm on board with a big rotation of Amir, Noah, Sully, and KO.  I think Noah is a very good fit for what Stevens is trying to do here.

Portland has enough cap space to absorb David Lee outright. What might they reasonably command in return for brokering a deal between Chicago and Boston?

More than I'd be comfortable paying, given that Chicago is still going to want compensation for Noah.  The better option might be finding a team with a slightly cheaper expiring than Lee.  For instance, would the Wizards find Lee to be an upgrade over Nene?  (Don't know if they would.). But if they did, it could be Lee to Washington, Nene and a pick to Chicago, and Noah to Boston.  Chicago saves about $600k in tax payments this way, doesn't create a hole in their big rotation, and gets a pick.  If Lee is an upgrade, the Wizards improve without going over the tax -- perhaps the C's kick in some money to make it salary neutral.  And the C's get Noah.

Nice idea.

What did the Sixers get for taking Javale McGee? Was it a single 1st?

[colincb]

Noah's clearly declining. Not interested unless there's a bargain and Lee's going out (and it won't be to the Bulls).

[alewilliam789]

It's pretty tricky to trade for Noah.  Lee is obviously our best salary for matching purposes, but he makes $2 million more than Noah this year, and the Bulls are already solidly in luxury tax territory, so they may not be inclined to take him on.  Trading Amir would be silly, and then our next largest salary would be Bradley, which doesn't make sense on a number of levels.  I haven't followed the Bulls enough to know if they have an additional player that they would dump to save luxury tax bills, but something like Lee and a pick for Noah costs them approximately $4 million in luxury tax.  If they got an additional young guy on top of it, the penalty would be even greater.

But if it could be worked out, I'm on board with a big rotation of Amir, Noah, Sully, and KO.  I think Noah is a very good fit for what Stevens is trying to do here.

I don't think it would be silly to move Amir in a package for Noah. They would essentially play the same type of role with Noah being more versatile than Johnson. We only have Johnson on the books for this year at 12 mil so we might as well use it wisely. That would almost be the perfect running mate for Sully too. For the Bulls they do it because it gives them cap relief next year so they could potentially miss the luxury tax next year or bring in added help.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Lee, Rozier, Young and our choice of firsts next year...for Noah and Hinrich.
Works.....Chicago gets 2 younger players, plus a First round pick.

[Moranis]

Noah & Snell

for

Turner, Jerekbo, Zeller

[celts55]

Zeller, Rozier, Young and Turner for Noah works in the trade machine

Nice, but it doesn't work on the basketball court. Way too much for Noah.