Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[PhoSita]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14420452/experience-nets-made-deron-williams-consider-walking-away-basketball

So, does anyone still think free agents are going to want to sign in Brooklyn?

This, plus what Pierce said a few months back, makes me think otherwise.

If they offer a second or third tier guy who has previously played for relatively small or lower profile markets a max contract, I think they'll have some pull.  But they've got no shot at signing anybody major.

Demar Derozan feels like a future Net or Laker to me, for example.

Wouldn't shock me to see them sign Rondo.

I think they'll try to use their cap space a different way. If they can, they'll try to bring back Brook. Then use the remaining space to take 2-3 year bad deals (Gerald Wallace types) and collect 1st rounders (specifically 1sts in the years of 2017 and 2018, or 2017 rookies selected in June). Build around Bogdanovic, RHJ, T. Young, Lopez and a 1-2 of Larkin/TRob/McCullough, plus whoever they select with the aforementioned picks. Build a respectable foundation to attract free agents in 2018 + 2019, around the time they'll finally be free of the KG/Pierce trade.

Are they firing Billy King?  Because your plan sounds like what a smart GM with a long term plan would do.

I think they'll try to get back to the playoffs and be somewhat competitive for the duration of Brook's deal, which expires right before the first season in which they have control of their own pick again.

[TheFlex]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14420452/experience-nets-made-deron-williams-consider-walking-away-basketball

So, does anyone still think free agents are going to want to sign in Brooklyn?

This, plus what Pierce said a few months back, makes me think otherwise.

If they offer a second or third tier guy who has previously played for relatively small or lower profile markets a max contract, I think they'll have some pull.  But they've got no shot at signing anybody major.

Demar Derozan feels like a future Net or Laker to me, for example.

Wouldn't shock me to see them sign Rondo.

I think they'll try to use their cap space a different way. If they can, they'll try to bring back Brook. Then use the remaining space to take 2-3 year bad deals (Gerald Wallace types) and collect 1st rounders (specifically 1sts in the years of 2017 and 2018, or 2017 rookies selected in June). Build around Bogdanovic, RHJ, T. Young, Lopez and a 1-2 of Larkin/TRob/McCullough, plus whoever they select with the aforementioned picks. Build a respectable foundation to attract free agents in 2018 + 2019, around the time they'll finally be free of the KG/Pierce trade.

Bring back Brook? He just signed a multi-year deal last summer.

Lol, was thinking he was a FA because of a fantasy league I'm in. Even better for them, I guess.

[mef730]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14420452/experience-nets-made-deron-williams-consider-walking-away-basketball

So, does anyone still think free agents are going to want to sign in Brooklyn?

This, plus what Pierce said a few months back, makes me think otherwise.

If they offer a second or third tier guy who has previously played for relatively small or lower profile markets a max contract, I think they'll have some pull.  But they've got no shot at signing anybody major.

Demar Derozan feels like a future Net or Laker to me, for example.

Wouldn't shock me to see them sign Rondo.

I think they'll try to use their cap space a different way. If they can, they'll try to bring back Brook. Then use the remaining space to take 2-3 year bad deals (Gerald Wallace types) and collect 1st rounders (specifically 1sts in the years of 2017 and 2018, or 2017 rookies selected in June). Build around Bogdanovic, RHJ, T. Young, Lopez and a 1-2 of Larkin/TRob/McCullough, plus whoever they select with the aforementioned picks. Build a respectable foundation to attract free agents in 2018 + 2019, around the time they'll finally be free of the KG/Pierce trade.

maybe i'm biased, but IMO nets should admit total failure and start prepping for a 2019 rebuild now. they should pump up lopez' and thad's value and ship them out for whatever picks they can get.

get creative with cap space and make trades for toxic contracts, getting extra draft picks back as compensation.

sign free agents/partially guaranteed contracts and flip them at the deadline for more picks.

let your fanbase know you have a plan to build around youth, but it will take a few years, and basically use whatever means you can to get young talent for a real rebuild in 2019.

I'm absolutely biased but believe that's the best strategy, regardless. Trade for picks in 2018/19, maybe one in 17. If you have a top-10 team now that think it needs a single piece to win the whole thing, a 2016 draft pick won't do you much good, because it's going to be at the end of the draft. But who knows what that team will look like in three years? That draft pick could be a very good one. And teams won't feel like they are giving away as much because of the time value of money draft picks.

Downside: An owner who may be looking to sell the team and would rather have a winner now than a loser with long-term potential.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14420452/experience-nets-made-deron-williams-consider-walking-away-basketball

So, does anyone still think free agents are going to want to sign in Brooklyn?

This, plus what Pierce said a few months back, makes me think otherwise.

If they offer a second or third tier guy who has previously played for relatively small or lower profile markets a max contract, I think they'll have some pull.  But they've got no shot at signing anybody major.

Demar Derozan feels like a future Net or Laker to me, for example.

Wouldn't shock me to see them sign Rondo.

I think they'll try to use their cap space a different way. If they can, they'll try to bring back Brook. Then use the remaining space to take 2-3 year bad deals (Gerald Wallace types) and collect 1st rounders (specifically 1sts in the years of 2017 and 2018, or 2017 rookies selected in June). Build around Bogdanovic, RHJ, T. Young, Lopez and a 1-2 of Larkin/TRob/McCullough, plus whoever they select with the aforementioned picks. Build a respectable foundation to attract free agents in 2018 + 2019, around the time they'll finally be free of the KG/Pierce trade.

Bring back Brook? He just signed a multi-year deal last summer.

Must be a stars wars reference

Not sure if serious, but I haven't seen it yet, so please keep all Star Wars talk to the Star Wars thread!

I don't think I'm giving anything away when I say that I had absolutely no interest in Star Wars (I took my son because he wanted to see it.) and I thought it was one of the best movies I've seen in the past couple of years. Enjoy!

Mike

[chambers]

Deron Williams is out for the Mavs tonight.
Not sure if that's a good thing? He's so mentally weak that sitting out the Brooklyn game may be a positive for the Mavs chances at winning.

This is a game that the Nets can take pretty easily after the Mavs lost last night in Toronto in a tough comeback game.

Back to back for Mavs and Nets had last night off after beating Chicago.
Let's hope Dirk and Mathews catch fire.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Deron Williams is out for the Mavs tonight.
Not sure if that's a good thing? He's so mentally weak that sitting out the Brooklyn game may be a positive for the Mavs chances at winning.

This is a game that the Nets can take pretty easily after the Mavs lost last night in Toronto in a tough comeback game.

Back to back for Mavs and Nets had last night off after beating Chicago.
Let's hope Dirk and Mathews catch fire.

Seems to be working so far.  The Nets need to have the lead all game or they have no chance and they're down 10 right now.  They fall apart in the 4th, even when they win.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Deron Williams is out for the Mavs tonight.
Not sure if that's a good thing? He's so mentally weak that sitting out the Brooklyn game may be a positive for the Mavs chances at winning.

This is a game that the Nets can take pretty easily after the Mavs lost last night in Toronto in a tough comeback game.

Back to back for Mavs and Nets had last night off after beating Chicago.
Let's hope Dirk and Mathews catch fire.

Seems to be working so far.  The Nets need to have the lead all game or they have no chance and they're down 10 right now.  They fall apart in the 4th, even when they win.

tired of teams sleeping on the nets, just go in for a full 48 and end their hope. 

[Quetzalcoatl]

tired of teams sleeping on the nets, just go in for a full 48 and end their hope. 

I know, but as someone who is insane and watched the majority of their season so far, the only games they seem to win are the ones where they're up the whole game.  Even then they can blow it, but they look putrid in the 4th every time.  Sometimes though, other teams look more putrid.  It's horrible basketball, I need to stop torturing myself.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

tired of teams sleeping on the nets, just go in for a full 48 and end their hope. 

I know, but as someone who is insane and watched the majority of their season so far, the only games they seem to win are the ones where they're up the whole game.  Even then they can blow it, but they look putrid in the 4th every time.  Sometimes though, other teams look more putrid.  It's horrible basketball, I need to stop torturing myself.

I agree. I have watched them all, sometimes on DVR. I just wish some would break their spirit. 

[SHAQATTACK]

Mavs should get Brook

[Quetzalcoatl]

Oh my god, the Nets have tied it.  What is going on over there?

[Neurotic Guy]

tired of teams sleeping on the nets, just go in for a full 48 and end their hope. 

I know, but as someone who is insane and watched the majority of their season so far, the only games they seem to win are the ones where they're up the whole game.  Even then they can blow it, but they look putrid in the 4th every time.  Sometimes though, other teams look more putrid.  It's horrible basketball, I need to stop torturing myself.

I agree. I have watched them all, sometimes on DVR. I just wish some would break their spirit. 

Never say things like above.  Brooklyn by 2 with 5 minutes to go.

[SHAQATTACK]

It's a curse of Brook Lopez.........destroy the Celtics

[Neurotic Guy]

Now up 8.

[SHAQATTACK]

Mavs going down .....l..Rick and Dirk have failed us.......

[tomrod]

still time for mavs to turn it around