Why Mickey isn't signed yet

[Hardwood Harry]

He's barely going to play this season. Better to take that 4 year deal and guarantee some money than risk the restricted market after the season. Sounds to me he doesn't like where he landed and wants to avoid the D league if possible.

The fact that there is a rough patch in negotiation tells me they want Mickey not only on the roster, but indeed to play THIS season. We do not have ANYONE on this roster who can intimidate in the post. Stevens is a Defense 1st coach. Do the math!!!

[Jon]

He's barely going to play this season. Better to take that 4 year deal and guarantee some money than risk the restricted market after the season. Sounds to me he doesn't like where he landed and wants to avoid the D league if possible.

The fact that there is a rough patch in negotiation tells me they want Mickey not only on the roster, but indeed to play THIS season. We do not have ANYONE on this roster who can intimidate in the post. Stevens is a Defense 1st coach. Do the math!!!

No. Unless there are several major trades or a rash or injuries, Mickey will never play and/or likely spend the whole season in the D-League.

That's the math. With Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko he has no other prayer to crack the rotation and probably not even the active roster.

[jbpats]

Kind of a diva move in my opinion.
You've played 4 SL games dude, earn your stripes.

Haven't read a single comment yet but imagine i'll get some guff.

[Hardwood Harry]

He's barely going to play this season. Better to take that 4 year deal and guarantee some money than risk the restricted market after the season. Sounds to me he doesn't like where he landed and wants to avoid the D league if possible.

The fact that there is a rough patch in negotiation tells me they want Mickey not only on the roster, but indeed to play THIS season. We do not have ANYONE on this roster who can intimidate in the post. Stevens is a Defense 1st coach. Do the math!!!

No. Unless there are several major trades or a rash or injuries, Mickey will never play and/or likely spend the whole season in the D-League.

That's the math. With Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko he has no other prayer to crack the rotation and probably not even the active roster.

One of us will be right. I will be here to admit either way.....will you?
P.S. one of those 3 will not be here and only 1 of them plays with any defensive ferocity..... nice try...

[Hardwood Harry]

Kind of a diva move in my opinion.
You've played 4 SL games dude, earn your stripes.

Haven't read a single comment yet but imagine i'll get some guff.

If you believed you should have been a 1st rounder and are now playing like one, wouldn't you want to be paid as well? Not guff, just a simple question. With club options and a 2nd round status, you have to look out for yourself, One injury and you'd better have a fall back plan. Hardly Diva....Smart!!

[tarheelsxxiii]

Kind of a diva move in my opinion.
You've played 4 SL games dude, earn your stripes.

Haven't read a single comment yet but imagine i'll get some guff.

If you believed you should have been a 1st rounder and are now playing like one, wouldn't you want to be paid as well? Not guff, just a simple question. With club options and a 2nd round status, you have to look out for yourself, One injury and you'd better have a fall back plan. Hardly Diva....Smart!!

Generally not good practice to walk around your place of work like your ish doesn't kints, unless it actually doesn't. In Mickey's case, his ish does in fact kints. Perhaps his agent is pushing, but at the end of the day, he is the employee (and his agent looks to be a scrub).

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

Kind of a diva move in my opinion.
You've played 4 SL games dude, earn your stripes.

Haven't read a single comment yet but imagine i'll get some guff.

If you believed you should have been a 1st rounder and are now playing like one, wouldn't you want to be paid as well? Not guff, just a simple question. With club options and a 2nd round status, you have to look out for yourself, One injury and you'd better have a fall back plan. Hardly Diva....Smart!!

Generally not good practice to walk around your place of work like your ish doesn't kints, unless it actually doesn't. In Mickey's case, his ish does in fact kints. Perhaps his agent is pushing, but at the end of the day, he is the employee (and his agent looks to be a scrub).

Well, he doesn't have a contract so he isn't an employee. That's the whole point Kcuf (to use the nonAP style you like) all that anti player jazz that allows the last crummy  CBA to happen. What is wrong with a player looking to get the best value he can? He isn't is a diva. He's negotiating like any person would. The arrogant anti player fan attitude is so dulldull. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

[Jon]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Kind of a diva move in my opinion.
You've played 4 SL games dude, earn your stripes.

Haven't read a single comment yet but imagine i'll get some guff.

If you believed you should have been a 1st rounder and are now playing like one, wouldn't you want to be paid as well? Not guff, just a simple question. With club options and a 2nd round status, you have to look out for yourself, One injury and you'd better have a fall back plan. Hardly Diva....Smart!!

Generally not good practice to walk around your place of work like your ish doesn't kints, unless it actually doesn't. In Mickey's case, his ish does in fact kints. Perhaps his agent is pushing, but at the end of the day, he is the employee (and his agent looks to be a scrub).

Well, he doesn't have a contract so he isn't an employee. That's the whole point Kcuf (to use the nonAP style you like) all that anti player jazz that allows the last crummy  CBA to happen. What is wrong with a player looking to get the best value he can? He isn't is a diva. He's negotiating like any person would. The arrogant anti player fan attitude is so dulldull.

Call him an intern, if semantics are an issue.

No idea how old you are - hoping you're in your later years or much younger, because that attitude doesn't work in the real world. If dude thinks he is "owed" something for "unfairly" dropping to the 2nd round, he should've done more to solidify himself as a 1st. ****ing about it now is going to get him nowhere...

The fact is, as Jon pointed out, he'll be fighting for any minutes he gets this year. His perspective seems off...

[BudweiserCeltic]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

That might be YOUR position, but certainly not of everyone in this thread... and there is plenty.

[Jon]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

That might be YOUR position, but certainly not of everyone in this thread... and there is plenty.

There are 96 minutes of time between the 4 and 5 positions. It's all well and good to talk in theoreticals how a player will play, but given how Zeller, Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko (who just got 5 million per year) are all ahead of him on the depth chart, how in the world are you imagining he even cracks the active roster, let alone actually get PT?

[LooseCannon]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

That might be YOUR position, but certainly not of everyone in this thread... and there is plenty.

There are 96 minutes of time between the 4 and 5 positions. It's all well and good to talk in theoreticals how a player will play, but given how Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko (who just got 5 million per year) are all ahead of him on the depth chart, how in the world are you imagining he even cracks the active roster, let alone actually get PT?

Injuries happen.  In Sullinger's case, sometimes all-you-can-eat buffets happen.

[Tr1boy]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

That might be YOUR position, but certainly not of everyone in this thread... and there is plenty.

There are 96 minutes of time between the 4 and 5 positions. It's all well and good to talk in theoreticals how a player will play, but given how Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko (who just got 5 million per year) are all ahead of him on the depth chart, how in the world are you imagining he even cracks the active roster, let alone actually get PT?

Mickey will get mins.  He is already a better defender than KO, Sullinger, Zeller, Lee

He isn't as strong yet but overall has better defensive skills/tools

Say, we put out Sully and Lee. And we are getting scored on repeatedly by opposing players driving into the basket, CBS might stop the bleeding by inserting Mickey (rim protection). Mickey can also prove his worth on the offensive end

[Tr1boy]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

That might be YOUR position, but certainly not of everyone in this thread... and there is plenty.

There are 96 minutes of time between the 4 and 5 positions. It's all well and good to talk in theoreticals how a player will play, but given how Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko (who just got 5 million per year) are all ahead of him on the depth chart, how in the world are you imagining he even cracks the active roster, let alone actually get PT?

Injuries happen. 

exactly.  Sully , Amir and Lee have injury histories.  KO has been injured both seasons he has played.