Why Mickey isn't signed yet

[Jon]

Certainly injuries can happen, and they may. But it is easy to speak in generalities. Assuming there's not, or even if there is one, how does anyone see Mickey getting minutes?

And can we please pretend that this isn't Little League and everyone has to play? If we can grant whoever starts will play 28-32 minutes at minimum, there's really no reason for more than one backup at each "big" position.

[Roy H.]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

[SHAQATTACK]

Hope Danny doesn't screw this up 

[SHAQATTACK]

Yeah, I don't understand the animosity towards Mickey for trying to find a deal that works best for him. It'll suck if we can't get a favorable deal, but it is what it is.

It's not about animosity, it's about stupidity. I can't imagine the world where he and his agent think a short term deal is going to help him given this team's depth up front this season. Unless major changes come (injuries or trades) Mickey won't sniff playing time this season.

That might be YOUR position, but certainly not of everyone in this thread... and there is plenty.

There are 96 minutes of time between the 4 and 5 positions. It's all well and good to talk in theoreticals how a player will play, but given how Johnson, Lee, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Jerbenko (who just got 5 million per year) are all ahead of him on the depth chart, how in the world are you imagining he even cracks the active roster, let alone actually get PT?

Injuries happen.  In Sullinger's case, sometimes all-you-can-eat buffets happen.

Sully slipping on the greasy chicken   floor , while waiting for a KFC bucket ...20 piece snack order.

[chambers]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

I'm with you 100% on this.
Long term security of a first round pick is what we are offering with an opportunity to actually play in the league on a developing young team.

[PhoSita]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

I think this is what's happening regardless.

[PhoSita]

It almost seems like the guaranteed money of first round contracts could become more an advantage for teams than for players.

That's the thing, it already is,  once you get into the late first round.

[rollie mass]

it must be agents-this is rather sophisticated negotiation for a rookie-"Show me the money" comes to mind

[LGC88]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

I'm with you 100% on this.
Long term security of a first round pick is what we are offering with an opportunity to actually play in the league on a developing young team.

This.
Give him the tender, send him to Maine and we have a 14 players rotation. More playing time for hard workers that didn't complain about their contract. The last thing we need, is someone unhappy in the locker room.

[clover]

it must be agents-this is rather sophisticated negotiation for a rookie-"Show me the money" comes to mind

Mickey's problem was picking this sorry excuse for an agent, then going along with his games:

http://www.draftexpress.com/agents/Matt-Babcock-303/

[Roy H.]

it must be agents-this is rather sophisticated negotiation for a rookie-"Show me the money" comes to mind

Mickey's problem was picking this sorry excuse for an agent, then going along with his games:

http://www.draftexpress.com/agents/Matt-Babcock-303/

Good research. 

Why would a borderline 1st rounder pick a scrub of an agent?  And why would he stick with that scrub when he jeopardized his NBA career and earning potential?

Getting a two year guarantee as a second rounder is dang good.  Take the money and run, or try to negotiate a partial guarantee in that third year and/or drop that fourth year.

[Celtics4ever]

I still think Ainge is no hurry because he is working the phones.  I know we all want to keep him but Vegas has raised his value considerably I am sure in some people's eyes.

I think he will make our practices a lot better with his shot blocking.   Certain players who play earth bound are going to have to adjust or their confidence will be even less with Mickey and Johnson guarding them in practice.   They will ever adapt and over come and become stronger or think they do not belong in the league with those guys hounding them in practice.

[Eja117]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

I'm with you 100% on this.
Long term security of a first round pick is what we are offering with an opportunity to actually play in the league on a developing young team.

This.
Give him the tender, send him to Maine and we have a 14 players rotation. More playing time for hard workers that didn't complain about their contract. The last thing we need, is someone unhappy in the locker room.

That's fine but he will absolutely dominate Maine. Like dominate. Like Christian Grey style. The rest of the league will be yelling "Yellow!" and it won't matter, because his goal is green.

[Eja117]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

This is sorta the most realistic. But you would have to keep him away from the court, away from Maine, and away from the next summer league, because given any chance at all he will outplay what the Celtics want to pay for him. 

I don't think there's any way to get away from at some point paying this kid what he's worth or losing him. Maybe letting him do great and then trading him the way the Sixers traded KJ McDaniels is the best thing to do.

[clover]

Give him a tender, let him sign it, and then stick him on the end of the bench where he doesn't get any playing time.  Let's see what his market value looks like next year, when we still retain his restricted rights.

There's nothing wrong with a rookie playing hardball.  If he wants to jeopardize his NBA career rather than go into a good situation, so be it.  However, the Celtics can put the screws to him, and I don't have any issue with it.

This is sorta the most realistic. But you would have to keep him away from the court, away from Maine, and away from the next summer league, because given any chance at all he will outplay what the Celtics want to pay for him. 

I don't think there's any way to get away from at some point paying this kid what he's worth or losing him. Maybe letting him do great and then trading him the way the Sixers traded KJ McDaniels is the best thing to do.

Or, don't sign him and let him go play abroad for now. Meanwhile M Thornton would be thrilled to have an outside chance of making the team from camp and the preseason.