Why Mickey isn't signed yet

[TA9]

According to sources, the Celtics were offering the No. 33 overall selection a four-year deal — two years guaranteed and two more at the team’s option — that was the richest given a second-round pick. League sources here at the summer league said Mickey was looking for a shorter-term commitment and, when it appeared neither side would move, the 6-8 forward was prepared to sign the tender offer — a one-year, non-guaranteed rookie minimum of $525,093. Players who sign such deals become restricted free agents at the end of the season.
– via Boston Herald

Kind of resemblance to the situation between K.J. McDaniels and the 76ers last year.
So did we just draft a money grabber? Seems like Mickey is more interested in money than playing for our team

[BudweiserCeltic]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

[merkins]

Four years is a long time for what he must feel is short money.  Yes he is a second round pick but that's not a very favorable deal for him if he's confident he can play at the NBA level.  Hopefully they work out a compromise as I'd hate to lose any rook after year 1 if they can play.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

This.

I'd renogotiate and do a 3 year deal, otherwise I'd just not sign him. We have his rights, he's not going to be on any NBA team but us. So if he won't accept a 3 year deal, then he's going to play either in the D - League or overseas. I'm pretty sure he'd rather be in the NBA.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Four years is a long time for what he must feel is short money.  Yes he is a second round pick but that's not a very favorable deal for him if he's confident he can play at the NBA level.  Hopefully they work out a compromise as I'd hate to lose any rook after year 1 if they can play.

He's basically offering him what a 1st rounder with guaranteed money gets. Though I would think that a 3-year deal is also on the table, so I wouldn't focus on the 4-year option by it lonesome.

A two year deal, while not ideal, it's workable. But a one year deal would be foolish.

[LooseCannon]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

This.

I'd renogotiate and do a 3 year deal, otherwise I'd just not sign him. We have his rights, he's not going to be on any NBA team but us. So if he won't accept a 3 year deal, then he's going to play either in the D - League or oversees. I'm pretty sure he'd rsthe be in the NBA.

He can sign the tender offer for one year.  If you don't offer him a tender, then you lose his rights and he can become a free agent before the season starts.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

This.

I'd renogotiate and do a 3 year deal, otherwise I'd just not sign him. We have his rights, he's not going to be on any NBA team but us. So if he won't accept a 3 year deal, then he's going to play either in the D - League or oversees. I'm pretty sure he'd rsthe be in the NBA.

He can sign the tender offer for one year.  If you don't offer him a tender, then you lose his rights and he can become a free agent before the season starts.

Okay... That I didn't know.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

This.

I'd renogotiate and do a 3 year deal, otherwise I'd just not sign him. We have his rights, he's not going to be on any NBA team but us. So if he won't accept a 3 year deal, then he's going to play either in the D - League or oversees. I'm pretty sure he'd rsthe be in the NBA.

He can sign the tender offer for one year.  If you don't offer him a tender, then you lose his rights and he can become a free agent before the season starts.

Oh? I wasn't aware of that. That sucks, oh well... hope for the best. I doubt it'll get to that.

Looks with the increasing salary cap that retaining 2nd rounders might become more difficult than before.

[TheTruthFot18]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

This.

I'd renogotiate and do a 3 year deal, otherwise I'd just not sign him. We have his rights, he's not going to be on any NBA team but us. So if he won't accept a 3 year deal, then he's going to play either in the D - League or oversees. I'm pretty sure he'd rsthe be in the NBA.

He can sign the tender offer for one year.  If you don't offer him a tender, then you lose his rights and he can become a free agent before the season starts.

Oh? I wasn't aware of that. That sucks, oh well... hope for the best. I doubt it'll get to that.

Looks with the increasing salary cap that retaining 2nd rounders might become more difficult than before.

He's not a franchise changer but I hope we don't lose him over this. I realized KJ Mcdaniels did the same thing. Why do these guys do this? Do they think someone will offer them big money after a rookie year likely split between the D League and the end of a bench?

[CelticSooner]

He's barely going to play this season. Better to take that 4 year deal and guarantee some money than risk the restricted market after the season. Sounds to me he doesn't like where he landed and wants to avoid the D league if possible.

[tarheelsxxiii]

He's barely going to play this season. Better to take that 4 year deal and guarantee some money than risk the restricted market after the season. Sounds to me he doesn't like where he landed and wants to avoid the D league if possible.

I agree, that's probably the most likely. Or perhaps he has a lot (too much?) confidence in himself.

[Celtics4ever]

Because Ainge is still working the phones, so we can have maximum flexibility.   Recall, one can go over the cap to sign our own guys.   Lee deal is not final yet, either.

[TA9]

I would not sign a one year deal, let him look for job elsewhere and us retain his rights. We don't need him this year as it is considering the depth.

This.

I'd renogotiate and do a 3 year deal, otherwise I'd just not sign him. We have his rights, he's not going to be on any NBA team but us. So if he won't accept a 3 year deal, then he's going to play either in the D - League or oversees. I'm pretty sure he'd rsthe be in the NBA.

He can sign the tender offer for one year.  If you don't offer him a tender, then you lose his rights and he can become a free agent before the season starts.

Oh? I wasn't aware of that. That sucks, oh well... hope for the best. I doubt it'll get to that.

Looks with the increasing salary cap that retaining 2nd rounders might become more difficult than before.

He's not a franchise changer but I hope we don't lose him over this. I realized KJ Mcdaniels did the same thing. Why do these guys do this? Do they think someone will offer them big money after a rookie year likely split between the D League and the end of a bench?

Maybe he got inspired by K.J. McDaniels ?
K.J. had a pretty good season last year with the 76ers (he barely played with the Rockets) and the rumor has it that the Rockets are considering to offer him the full MLE:

Calvin Watkins: Rockets want to use $5.4 mil MLE on KJ McDaniels are in talks with him. McDaniels has a strong offer from 1 other team. No offer sheet yet. KJ McDaniels is currently back in school at Clemson working on getting his degree.

It seems to have worked out well for McDaniels but I doubt that Mickey will have the same impact on the C's given that our frontline is pretty stacked. Some people are so ungrateful... Take the millions and take a seat on the bench Mickey...

[BudweiserCeltic]

Because Ainge is still working the phones, so we can have maximum flexibility.   Recall, one can go over the cap to sign our own guys.   Lee deal is not final yet, either.

You're missing the gist of all of this. The only we we can sign Mickey to a long contract (3+ years, gain his Bird Rights) is by using cap space. And since using cap space is needed, this is not about retaining flexibility at all, but on negotiations on an agreement not happening yet.

There's a slim chance that Ainge would find a deal so good he would forgo going after Mickey for 3+ years, but I don't see it. I think he'd rather lock-up Mickey and move on. His base salary shouldn't be that much anyways, under $1M for sure.

But we'll see.

[Jon]

Yeah, as other have pointed out, this seems like a dumb move. He isn't going to play here, so I don't know what he hopes to accomplish by not taking s long deal. If he signs a one year deal, his best case would be to latch onto another team in 2016-2017 at another minimum deal (because no one will offer him more than that no matter how well he performs in the D-League or next year's summer league) and then hope to blow up year two and then get a big deal year 3. But that seems like a lot to risk when Ainge seems to be offering s pretty good deal.