Willing to take a shot on Hibbert? The Time is NOW [Merged]

[Evantime34]

15 million for a 7'2 center who can't rebound? Pass. Weller can average 6-7 rebounds at a 1/5th of the money.

Rather spend it on Lopez if possible.

Hibbert is a considerably better rim protector.

Even if he can't rebound great, he could lead us to a top 10 defense (maybe even top 5 since we were 12th last year without any rim protection)

[j804]

I would take a shot if the price isn't too high. He'd probably come very motivated.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

15 million for a 7'2 center who can't rebound? Pass. Weller can average 6-7 rebounds at a 1/5th of the money.

Rather spend it on Lopez if possible.

Hibbert is a considerably better rim protector.

Even if he can't rebound great, he could lead us to a top 10 defense (maybe even top 5 since we were 12th last year without any rim protection)

can you believe how good we were defensively? AB and Smart need even more credit given what they had behind them.

I'll pass on Hibbert, too much money. CBS could fix his system to incorporate him but he is too slow for what we want to do. If he was cheaper it would be fine but we can find other avenues with what it will cost to get him at this point.

Oh, people want to pay Hibbert but not Harris? I'm sure people will say Hibbert is better but is he really? I'd say he isn't the better player, fit, not the age to expect improvement either.

[PhoSita]

Hibbert is one of the few players who has ever been able to deter LeBron James from driving to the rim.

Yeah, he's flawed.  A one year rental would not be a big risk.

I think it would be worth it to see what Brad Stevens can do defensively with a team that has a legitimate defensive anchor.  I also would like to see how the other guys on the team (e.g. Olynyk, Smart, Crowder, Thomas, etc) do with a defensive big man behind them.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Hibbert is one of the few players who has ever been able to deter LeBron James from driving to the rim.

Yeah, he's flawed.  A one year rental would not be a big risk.

I think it would be worth it to see what Brad Stevens can do defensively with a team that has a legitimate defensive anchor.  I also would like to see how the other guys on the team (e.g. Olynyk, Smart, Crowder, Thomas, etc) do with a defensive big man behind them.

You mean like the previous post season when he went 56% from the floor against them?

[PhoSita]

Hibbert is one of the few players who has ever been able to deter LeBron James from driving to the rim.

Yeah, he's flawed.  A one year rental would not be a big risk.

I think it would be worth it to see what Brad Stevens can do defensively with a team that has a legitimate defensive anchor.  I also would like to see how the other guys on the team (e.g. Olynyk, Smart, Crowder, Thomas, etc) do with a defensive big man behind them.

You mean like the previous post season when he went 56% from the floor against them?

I don't recall, honestly. 

I know that Hibbert has had success in holding LeBron below 56% shooting in the paint, which is significantly lower than he usually manages (e.g. 60-70%).  Hibbert has been able, in the past, to force LeBron to take more jumpers.  Sometimes LeBron nails the jumpers, but forcing him to take them is notable.

Not sure what Hibbert would do to the Celts' offense, but I have no doubt he substantially improve the interior defense, which is a major weakness.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Hibbert is one of the few players who has ever been able to deter LeBron James from driving to the rim.

Yeah, he's flawed.  A one year rental would not be a big risk.

I think it would be worth it to see what Brad Stevens can do defensively with a team that has a legitimate defensive anchor.  I also would like to see how the other guys on the team (e.g. Olynyk, Smart, Crowder, Thomas, etc) do with a defensive big man behind them.

You mean like the previous post season when he went 56% from the floor against them?

I don't recall, honestly. 

I know that Hibbert has had success in holding LeBron below 56% shooting in the paint, which is significantly lower than he usually manages (e.g. 60-70%).  Hibbert has been able, in the past, to force LeBron to take more jumpers.  Sometimes LeBron nails the jumpers, but forcing him to take them is notable.

Not sure what Hibbert would do to the Celts' offense, but I have no doubt he substantially improve the interior defense, which is a major weakness.

Well, Indiana had also a lot of players to throw at him at the wing to help out. Their better effort was with Vogel's first or Second year if not mistaken, in which they were taking Miami by surprise a bit, but even then LeBron simply had a good series as well.

In all, sure he might help, but not to any degree I care much for.

While we're at it... Hibbert seemingly always began the series against them dominating, only to become a big big negative for them as the series went on.

I don't know, he's been on a downward spiral, and I didn't like him much in the first place when he was at his peak. So there's that.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
Last thing before I go - if Roy Hibbert is traded he has a 15% trade bonus - hurts teams that would want him + a 2nd max FA

[vjcsmoke]

Considering that we're not going to land Love or Aldridge or Gasol... Hibbert makes sense on a one year deal.  What else are we going to use the cap space on? 

I am interested to see first if we can land Tobias Harris though.  If we can sign Harris, and then trade away Wallace and a low end pick or two for Hibbert I could see that helping us out a lot in the short term.  And if Hibbert doesn't work out, we just let him walk at the end of the year.

Ajinca is another possibility who might be  cheaper but not as dominant defensively.

[danglertx]

Teams just set high picks with Hibbert and he is useless in space, making him a liability.  So unless Brad has some defensive scheme to prohibit  Hibbert getting stuck out top, then no, no interest.

[Evantime34]

15 million for a 7'2 center who can't rebound? Pass. Weller can average 6-7 rebounds at a 1/5th of the money.

Rather spend it on Lopez if possible.

Hibbert is a considerably better rim protector.

Even if he can't rebound great, he could lead us to a top 10 defense (maybe even top 5 since we were 12th last year without any rim protection)

can you believe how good we were defensively? AB and Smart need even more credit given what they had behind them.

I'll pass on Hibbert, too much money. CBS could fix his system to incorporate him but he is too slow for what we want to do. If he was cheaper it would be fine but we can find other avenues with what it will cost to get him at this point.

Oh, people want to pay Hibbert but not Harris? I'm sure people will say Hibbert is better but is he really? I'd say he isn't the better player, fit, not the age to expect improvement either.

It is crazy how good our defense is with our average/poor defensive bigs. It is amazing how hard our guards would work to force ball handlers away from screens so that our bigs didn't have to deal with the pick and roll.

I think we could run the exact same drop down defense we did last year, if we got Hibbert. The problem is what to do with him on offense. I think if you put 4 shooters around him (like a lineup with Crowder at the 4) we could survive on offense.

Completely agree that Harris is a much better option. Hibbert is the type of player you go after because you have struck out on everyone else. With his 15% trade kicker he would take up most of our available cap space.

[Big333223]

18 months ago people were saying Hibbert was a lock for DPOY and it was his to lose. And then he and the team went totally off the rails and now Indy can't get rid of him.

If there was a low-risk deal on the table (say Wallace's contract and Minnesota's pick) it would be worth it to me to find out if these lows are a fluke or his highs were. The thing that always confused me about Hibbert is that he's a good FT shooter (career 75%) but can't shoot in game situations. Could a good shooting coach turn him into a threat as a jump shooter away from the basket?

[Who]

I wouldn't give up anything of value in a trade for Hibbert. He is a FA in 12 months time and he will be very available. Indiana do not want him back. Most of the league does not want a plodder like Hibbert. So his price-tag will be low and there will be a lack of competition for his signature. I'd rather target him then and keep our assets.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Hibbert sucks and is not dependable. Why take him on if we aren't going to win a championship, he will just help us win games.

[Big333223]

Hibbert sucks and is not dependable. Why take him on if we aren't going to win a championship, he will just help us win games.

You don't want him because he sucks. You don't want him because he'll help us win games. You sound confused.