Willing to take a shot on Hibbert? The Time is NOW [Merged]

[Hemingway]

I don't know enough to compare, but we can't come away from the offseason without another center. Zeller is pretty good and will get better so if we had to limit Hibbert to 20 or 25 minutes a game it would be no problem.

What would indy want? Wallace would save them money and let us make this move while keeping more flexibility than a move with a TPE (I would think).

[adam.jones614]

Depends, maybe for the right deal. But I'd really rather they sign Koufos this summer. He's a guy that would fit right in to what they're building culture wise here, he's a vastly under-rated rim protector and can be had for a decent price. Just adding a real center and cleaning up some of the clutter from draft night could make this a good enough team to win the Atlantic. We had one of the best records in the league post-IT trade, and we were basically a .500 team even with the bad start. Add a competent defensive minded 5 like Koufos to that Smart/IT/Crowder/KO/Sully group and they can win 45-50 games.

Kufo's wouldn't be bad either. If we could make a few moves to clear cap, obviously including dumping Wallace, then signing Kufos, Tobias Harris, and Love would be a pretty decent offseason!

A starting lineup of IT/Smart/Harris/Love/Kufos would be pretty solid. Assuming the Bradley gets traded to clear our logjam of gaurds in that scenario.

[Scintan]

It depends on the price, which is so often the sticking point.  Does Indiana want to get rid of him so badly that Wallace and a 2nd gets it done?  If it does, sure, make the trade.

[Sixth Man]

It depends on the price, which is so often the sticking point.  Does Indiana want to get rid of him so badly that Wallace and a 2nd gets it done?  If it does, sure, make the trade.

Is there a player in the entire league who is less well-suited to play for Brad Stevens than Hibbert? 

[kheldar52077]

Wallace and a future first for Hibbert. Sign Kevin Love. Being Pierce back. Move a package of young talent and a future pick for a lockdown stud wing when they become available. (Sully, first and what?)

Smart/Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Hunter/Young
Wing/Crowder
Love/KO/Mickey
Hibbert/Zeller

Wing = Tobias Harris ??

[dreamgreen]

NO!!

[Evantime34]

It depends on the price, which is so often the sticking point.  Does Indiana want to get rid of him so badly that Wallace and a 2nd gets it done?  If it does, sure, make the trade.

Is there a player in the entire league who is less well-suited to play for Brad Stevens than Hibbert?

With how Indiana is talking about him I don't think it would take more than Gerald Wallace and a second or two, maybe a crappy first. They clearly want him gone, and could clear out so solid cap space by stretching Wallace.

On offense, he doesn't fit Steven's system but on defense he is perfect for it. The C's defensive system last year had our guards fighting to force the ball away from screens and our bigs dropping down to prevent drives to the hoop. Hibbert is a defensive player of the year candidate who completely seals off the paint. Adding him would give us a top 10 defense.

[Denis998]

How good can he be for us? We run one of the fastest paced offense's in the league. Indy doesn't want him because they want a faster pace. With him on our team, how does that affect our offense.

[saltlover]

It depends on the price, which is so often the sticking point.  Does Indiana want to get rid of him so badly that Wallace and a 2nd gets it done?  If it does, sure, make the trade.

Is there a player in the entire league who is less well-suited to play for Brad Stevens than Hibbert?

I would've thought Javale McGee would answer your question, but if Danny thought that would work, I'd take a shot on Hibbert for a year as an option at center if we got a PF like Love.

[fairweatherfan]

If he's extremely cheap, and it doesn't interfere with our ability to add other pieces, absolutely - if nothing else we can always flip him midseason for a contender to rent for a playoff run.  I feel the same way about Noah too. 

[pearljammer10]

Wallace and a future first for Hibbert. Sign Kevin Love. Being Pierce back. Move a package of young talent and a future pick for a lockdown stud wing when they become available. (Sully, first and what?)

Smart/Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Hunter/Young
Wing/Crowder
Love/KO/Mickey
Hibbert/Zeller

Sorry, but you have US sending a future first to take on the larger contract of Hibbert that the Pacers DON'T want?

Yeah, that makes sense..

Right... This is a complete lowball offer here. You wouldn't send a future first for a perennial DPOY candidate who has helped bring his team to number one in the east when all the pieces are healthy. AANnD is on a big expiring contract?

And I don't make sense?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Wallace and a future first for Hibbert. Sign Kevin Love. Being Pierce back. Move a package of young talent and a future pick for a lockdown stud wing when they become available. (Sully, first and what?)

Smart/Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Hunter/Young
Wing/Crowder
Love/KO/Mickey
Hibbert/Zeller

Sorry, but you have US sending a future first to take on the larger contract of Hibbert that the Pacers DON'T want?

Yeah, that makes sense..

Right... This is a complete lowball offer here. You wouldn't send a future first for a perennial DPOY candidate who has helped bring his team to number one in the east when all the pieces are healthy.

And I don't make sense?

For a 1 year rental...

If you're going to ship Wallace with a first it better be because you're opening cap space to use, not on a reclamation project whose chances of succeeding are low and even more so be a part of the program afterwards.

We're doing Indiana a favor here, not the other way around. This is what you should do, absorb Hibbert and a future first from Indiana with our cap space, then use that first round pick to dump Wallace somewhere else.

THAT'S the real strategy here if anything.

[pearljammer10]

Wallace and a future first for Hibbert. Sign Kevin Love. Being Pierce back. Move a package of young talent and a future pick for a lockdown stud wing when they become available. (Sully, first and what?)

Smart/Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Hunter/Young
Wing/Crowder
Love/KO/Mickey
Hibbert/Zeller

Sorry, but you have US sending a future first to take on the larger contract of Hibbert that the Pacers DON'T want?

Yeah, that makes sense..

Right... This is a complete lowball offer here. You wouldn't send a future first for a perennial DPOY candidate who has helped bring his team to number one in the east when all the pieces are healthy.

And I don't make sense?

For a 1 year rental...

If you're going to ship Wallace with a first it better be because you're opening cap space to use, not on a reclamation project whose chances of succeeding are low and even more so be a part of the program afterwards.

We're doing Indiana a favor here, not the other way around. This is what you should do, absorb Hibbert and a future first from Indiana with our cap space, then use that first round pick to dump Wallace somewhere else.

THAT'S the real strategy here if anything.

How is Hibbert a reclamation project? Is he inconsistent? Sure. He plays better with anger and when he's got a fire under him and then other games he completely disappears. But with Hibbert the Celtics automatically find themselves as a top 10 defensive team in the league without question. Hibbert is a game changing defensive player and boxes out his man extremely well in order for others to crash the boards and grab rebounds.

Even without Stephenson and George this year, and with a lineup of misfits and journeymen, Hibbert led the Pacers to 4th in points allowed and helped put them 5th overall in rebounding.  Sure he's a risk, sure he might have a Jeff Green-esque nature about his up and down play, and he might not be the best fit in BS's uptempo offense...But defensively he changes everything. Im not talking about the Nets picks here but giving up a late first would be a no brainer in my eyes.

I mean Wallace and a Rozierlike first round pick is a no brainer move for a one year chance at Hibbert especially with the amount of picks we have.

[TheTruthFot18]

15 million for a 7'2 center who can't rebound? Pass. Weller can average 6-7 rebounds at a 1/5th of the money.

Rather spend it on Lopez if possible.

[GC003332]

Wallace and a future first for Hibbert. Sign Kevin Love. Being Pierce back. Move a package of young talent and a future pick for a lockdown stud wing when they become available. (Sully, first and what?)

Smart/Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Hunter/Young
Wing/Crowder
Love/KO/Mickey
Hibbert/Zeller

Sorry, but you have US sending a future first to take on the larger contract of Hibbert that the Pacers DON'T want?

Yeah, that makes sense..

Right... This is a complete lowball offer here. You wouldn't send a future first for a perennial DPOY candidate who has helped bring his team to number one in the east when all the pieces are healthy.

And I don't make sense?

For a 1 year rental...

If you're going to ship Wallace with a first it better be because you're opening cap space to use, not on a reclamation project whose chances of succeeding are low and even more so be a part of the program afterwards.

We're doing Indiana a favor here, not the other way around. This is what you should do, absorb Hibbert and a future first from Indiana with our cap space, then use that first round pick to dump Wallace somewhere else.

THAT'S the real strategy here if anything.

TP