The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.

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2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

Couldn't have said it better. Danny Ainge has a bias against euros. He also had some colossal misses with JJJ Flab Melo and KO. The Greek freak was the pick. Everyone saw it. Yet Danny passed on Giannis because he was a Euro. The irony of course is that KO plays defense like a stereotypical European too. This last draft was awful though. Ainge has the opportunity to tank and holds onto his garbage role players like Rondo and Bass thus costing this team the chance to get more ping pong balls for a top 3 pick. Instead we are left with Banks 2.0 and a D Leaguer. Ainge needs to be shown the door after this year. Please let CBS go to Indiana and lets get someone in here who is committed to building the right way. Philly Los Angeles Knicks are doing it the right way now. Let's emulate and make a strong commitment to tanking so 18 comes that much sooner.

Haha.

Yeah Philly, LA, and NY are all looking real good. 

I'd take a top 3 pick in this year's draft over anyone on this roster. Hence the Knicks and Lakers have much better futures. 76ers have the most young talent including two young bigs any of us would want. But yes keep the faith of Banks 2.0 being the answer. I'm going to bet on the proverbial nut punch.

Someone doesn't understand math.

Mike

[hwangjini_1]

2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

Couldn't have said it better. Danny Ainge has a bias against euros. He also had some colossal misses with JJJ Flab Melo and KO. The Greek freak was the pick. Everyone saw it. Yet Danny passed on Giannis because he was a Euro. The irony of course is that KO plays defense like a stereotypical European too. This last draft was awful though. Ainge has the opportunity to tank and holds onto his garbage role players like Rondo and Bass thus costing this team the chance to get more ping pong balls for a top 3 pick. Instead we are left with Banks 2.0 and a D Leaguer. Ainge needs to be shown the door after this year. Please let CBS go to Indiana and lets get someone in here who is committed to building the right way. Philly Los Angeles Knicks are doing it the right way now. Let's emulate and make a strong commitment to tanking so 18 comes that much sooner.

no he doesn't. please PM boris badenov and ask him for his post on danny's drafting and international players. he shows how ainge does NOT have some sort of pathological and jingoist distain for players not born in the US.

really. PM boris. he did some very good research and you would learn by reading it.

[manl_lui]

2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

Couldn't have said it better. Danny Ainge has a bias against euros. He also had some colossal misses with JJJ Flab Melo and KO. The Greek freak was the pick. Everyone saw it. Yet Danny passed on Giannis because he was a Euro. The irony of course is that KO plays defense like a stereotypical European too. This last draft was awful though. Ainge has the opportunity to tank and holds onto his garbage role players like Rondo and Bass thus costing this team the chance to get more ping pong balls for a top 3 pick. Instead we are left with Banks 2.0 and a D Leaguer. Ainge needs to be shown the door after this year. Please let CBS go to Indiana and lets get someone in here who is committed to building the right way. Philly Los Angeles Knicks are doing it the right way now. Let's emulate and make a strong commitment to tanking so 18 comes that much sooner.

Haha.

Yeah Philly, LA, and NY are all looking real good. 

I'd take a top 3 pick in this year's draft over anyone on this roster. Hence the Knicks and Lakers have much better futures. 76ers have the most young talent including two young bigs any of us would want. But yes keep the faith of Banks 2.0 being the answer. I'm going to bet on the proverbial nut punch.

I respectfully disagree with you, and I respect your opinion. With that said, this rebuild is only in "stage 2"or "year 2" rather. In year 2 of a rebuild, we have accumulated tons of draft picks to use in the next 3-5 years. And I think Marcus was a solid pick at 6. Besides the obvious Wiggins and Parker, I have yet to judge Embiid. Dante Exum is meh, and you can argue Aaron Gordon is either the same or not as good as Smart. So You can also argue Smart could be a top 4 pick. Smart in his rookie season is already helping this team win with his tenacious defense and you can definitely see him improve as the season goes along. Beginning of the season I was upset he wasn't driving as much to the basket. I'm starting to see some of it now.
The 76ers has been tanking before we did, and they're still no where near playoffs. I understand their strategy is to get lucky and hit a homerun in the draft but you're putting too much "hope" to get lucky with the ping pong balls.

I think Brad is doing an amazing job with these young group of guys and definitely developing young players and reviving some careers briefly (for trading), like Crawford whom we got a free 2nd rounder for and he's out of the league. Not sure if Evans will stay for the long term, but not sure what his future is like if he is traded.

I think Danny is building through the draft AND at the same time trading for assets. He doesn't want to spend half a decade tanking. He wants to win asap.

[Chris22]

Isaiah Thomas is our first pick in the 2015 draft.

I'd say this years draft is already a success.

[Bosstown]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions. Fab Melo was a bad pick and we all knew that...Jajuan Johnson didn't seem like a great pick but honestly at the time no one knew who any of those guy would amount to anything in the NBA...Jimmy Butler did though and for whatever reason we passed on the "clean cut white guy" in Chandler Parsons whose at least a shooter in this league. Ainge I don't get you sometimes.

[KCattheStripe]

Isaiah Thomas is our first pick in the 2015 draft.

I'd say this years draft is already a success.

And we picked him at like 26.

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Celtic fans do nothing but whine.

More like some people have different opinions than others.

Yup, some whine and some don't.

No, more like not everyone views everything with their green tinted glasses.

[manl_lui]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions. Fab Melo was a bad pick and we all knew that...Jajuan Johnson didn't seem like a great pick but honestly at the time no one knew who any of those guy would amount to anything in the NBA...Jimmy Butler did though and for whatever reason we passed on the "clean cut white guy" in Chandler Parsons whose at least a shooter in this league. Ainge I don't get you sometimes.

actually, that one does sting. Can you imagine DeAndre with KG and then still trading Perk for Green

[Roy H.]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions.

Eh...  Danny missed, but I'm not sure if it was as obvious as you're saying. Giannis was passed over by 14 franchises.  Jordan fell to the 35th pick.  Nothing about their selections was obvious, at least to the professionals who do the drafting.

I wanted Giannis, as well, but that was based on probably less than 5 minutes of scouting video I had seen.  I'm sure most fans who feel that the selection was obvious watched a similar amount of tape.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Giannis is probably the only draft Danny blew. The rest are fine.

Bradley turned out to be a decent player with good defense. Sully is a decent to good player. We drafted Fab becausewe needed size, and rim protection. He didn't pan out but at the time he is who we thought we needed, so it's a solid gamble. Even KO has shown some flashes of being a solid role player, but I'd give you that.

From where he's picking, Danny has done a decent job.

[Moranis]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions.

Eh...  Danny missed, but I'm not sure if it was as obvious as you're saying. Giannis was passed over by 14 franchises.  Jordan fell to the 35th pick.  Nothing about their selections was obvious, at least to the professionals who do the drafting.

I wanted Giannis, as well, but that was based on probably less than 5 minutes of scouting video I had seen.  I'm sure most fans who feel that the selection was obvious watched a similar amount of tape.

Sure, but on this board both Giannis and Jordan were highly sought after picks.  They were also ones that made the most sense for Boston in its then current position (Jordan was raw and might not have amounted to much, but Boston in 08 could take the risk.  Giannis had the most upside of anyone available and thus for a team about to enter rebuilding, taking the high risk/high reward player made the most sense).  Additionally, JJJ was a huge bust, but I at least understand the thinking with him i.e. a guy coming off a long successful college career in theory would be the most ready to play and Boston needed that type of player on that team.

[Eja117]

Giannis could have just as easily turned out to be a more awkward less athletic version of Gerald Green. GG was the high risk high reward guy. I was solidly in favor of that pick. You don't hear lots of praise for that pick. Are the Giannis fans saying GG was a good pick? Or the right one? I'll say I thought it was and still understand it.

[loco_91]

Threads like this suffer from 20/20 hindsight. It is actually quite difficult to project most prospects, especially euros like Giannis (plus, Giannis GREW). I don't think Ainge has made any head-scratcher picks that he should've known better.

Even a 'perfect' GM who always takes the best prospect, by some theoretical objective measure based on all info available, will usually not draft the best eventual player.

Just be glad we have Ainge and not, say, Billy King...

[Bosstown]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions.

Eh...  Danny missed, but I'm not sure if it was as obvious as you're saying. Giannis was passed over by 14 franchises.  Jordan fell to the 35th pick.  Nothing about their selections was obvious, at least to the professionals who do the drafting.

I wanted Giannis, as well, but that was based on probably less than 5 minutes of scouting video I had seen.  I'm sure most fans who feel that the selection was obvious watched a similar amount of tape.

Lets think about this...DJ who was at the time a 18 year old 7 footer with OUT OF THIS WORLD athleticism, versus a junior swingman who put up average states in a weak conference at New Mexico. I was screaming for DJ at my TV....then we get Giddens, who was a straight bum. We had an opportunity to add DJ with KG...who knows how that could of ended up.

Giannis was just obvious because he has a unique skillset, a 6'9...now 6'11 SG/SF who can handle the rock and had a improving jump shot. As well as SUPER athletic. We took the 30 cent version of Dirk and honestly....he isn't going to be anymore than a role player. Giannis could be a lock down defender in a few years and the sky is the limit.

[Roy H.]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions.

Eh...  Danny missed, but I'm not sure if it was as obvious as you're saying. Giannis was passed over by 14 franchises.  Jordan fell to the 35th pick.  Nothing about their selections was obvious, at least to the professionals who do the drafting.

I wanted Giannis, as well, but that was based on probably less than 5 minutes of scouting video I had seen.  I'm sure most fans who feel that the selection was obvious watched a similar amount of tape.

Lets think about this...DJ who was at the time a 18 year old 7 footer with OUT OF THIS WORLD athleticism, versus a junior swingman who put up average states in a weak conference at New Mexico. I was screaming for DJ at my TV....then we get Giddens, who was a straight bum. We had an opportunity to add DJ with KG...who knows how that could of ended up.

Giannis was just obvious because he has a unique skillset, a 6'9...now 6'11 SG/SF who can handle the rock and had a improving jump shot. As well as SUPER athletic. We took the 30 cent version of Dirk and honestly....he isn't going to be anymore than a role player. Giannis could be a lock down defender in a few years and the sky is the limit.

I have no doubt that you thought it was obvious.  However, isn't it fair to say that the professionals didn't?  A lot of teams missed on those two.