The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.

[Monkhouse]

2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

Look at where he picked, only Smart was a lottery pick, and he still needs 3-4 years before we can declare him a 'bust.' Also, I really liked the Young pick, as I think in a few years, he'll be a 16-20 PPG scorer.

[Lucky17]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

[Lucky17]

Also, I do like how we've closed the books on the 2012, 2013, and 2014 drafts already. Because players pretty much plateau after their first 1.5 seasons in the league, dontchaknow?

[Bosstown]

I'm still not over Olynyk over Giannis. Just like I'm not over JR Giddens over D'Andre Jordan, Those were such an obvious decisions.

Eh...  Danny missed, but I'm not sure if it was as obvious as you're saying. Giannis was passed over by 14 franchises.  Jordan fell to the 35th pick.  Nothing about their selections was obvious, at least to the professionals who do the drafting.

I wanted Giannis, as well, but that was based on probably less than 5 minutes of scouting video I had seen.  I'm sure most fans who feel that the selection was obvious watched a similar amount of tape.

Lets think about this...DJ who was at the time a 18 year old 7 footer with OUT OF THIS WORLD athleticism, versus a junior swingman who put up average states in a weak conference at New Mexico. I was screaming for DJ at my TV....then we get Giddens, who was a straight bum. We had an opportunity to add DJ with KG...who knows how that could of ended up.

Giannis was just obvious because he has a unique skillset, a 6'9...now 6'11 SG/SF who can handle the rock and had a improving jump shot. As well as SUPER athletic. We took the 30 cent version of Dirk and honestly....he isn't going to be anymore than a role player. Giannis could be a lock down defender in a few years and the sky is the limit.

I have no doubt that you thought it was obvious.  However, isn't it fair to say that the professionals didn't?  A lot of teams missed on those two.

Yea...the moral is Ainge should hire me.

[Bosstown]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

He was never a "safe" pick, he was a "moderate risk/high reward" type. All of Ainges risks just never seem like good risks, like JJJ, JR Giddens, Fab Melo....none of those guys seemed worth it to me at the time of those drafts.

[Bosstown]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

and what is Kelly's? A no defense 7 ft shooting guard?

[Lucky17]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

and what is Kelly's? A no defense 7 ft shooting guard?

You do realize that Olynyk has the same defensive rating over his career as Giannis, right?

Regardless, in a league that is accentuating more and more the concept of pace and space, it seems like Olynyk has a base skillset that should translate to a rotational role for him in the NBA. I expect him to be a decent bench big man. Considering where he was drafted, that's not [dang]ing him with faint praise.

[Chris22]

Sullinger, Olynyk, and Smart are good young players. James Young is only 19.

This year's draft has started with Isaiah Thomas and two first round picks.

[Bosstown]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

and what is Kelly's? A no defense 7 ft shooting guard?

You do realize that Olynyk has the same defensive rating over his career as Giannis, right?

Regardless, in a league that is accentuating more and more the concept of pace and space, it seems like Olynyk has a base skillset that should translate to a rotational role for him in the NBA. I expect him to be a decent bench big man. Considering where he was drafted, that's not [dang]ing him with faint praise.

It doesn't matter, Giannis has way more defensive potential with his ELITE length and ELITE athleticism. Kelly can only get so much better defensively due to his lack of athleticism, while Giannis could POTENTIALLY be a lockdown defender for years to come. Everything has to go the right way, but I'd still take Giannis over Kelly.

Let's revist this in 5 years see who the better defender is. 

[Lucky17]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

and what is Kelly's? A no defense 7 ft shooting guard?

You do realize that Olynyk has the same defensive rating over his career as Giannis, right?

Regardless, in a league that is accentuating more and more the concept of pace and space, it seems like Olynyk has a base skillset that should translate to a rotational role for him in the NBA. I expect him to be a decent bench big man. Considering where he was drafted, that's not [dang]ing him with faint praise.

It doesn't matter, Giannis has way more defensive potential with his length and athleticism. Kelly can only get so much better defensively due to his lack of athleticism, while Giannis could POTENTIALLY be a lockdown defender for years to come. In 5 years we'll see who the better defender really is.

Sure, Giannis has more potential as a defender. God forbid he lose that potential due to injury.

Olynyk has more potential as a shooter. Shall we also see who the better scorer is in five years while we're at it?

At least you're willing to revisit things in five years.  Anyone who's offering definitive pronouncements on the future of the NBA Class of 2013 is full of it.

[Monkhouse]

I don't get how Giannis was the obvious choice when there were questions at the time about his age (especially in a post-Bismack draft), his eventual position in the NBA, and the quality of his competition. Calling Giannis the safer pick is pure revisionist history.

Frankly, I still wonder what Giannis' career is going to look like. Unless he can develop a consistent 15-footer, he's going to be . . . what, exactly? A rich man's Hakim Warrick? The next Jonathan Bender?

http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1529/giannis-antetokounmpo/shotchart/

and what is Kelly's? A no defense 7 ft shooting guard?

You do realize that Olynyk has the same defensive rating over his career as Giannis, right?

Regardless, in a league that is accentuating more and more the concept of pace and space, it seems like Olynyk has a base skillset that should translate to a rotational role for him in the NBA. I expect him to be a decent bench big man. Considering where he was drafted, that's not [dang]ing him with faint praise.

It doesn't matter, Giannis has way more defensive potential with his length and athleticism. Kelly can only get so much better defensively due to his lack of athleticism, while Giannis could POTENTIALLY be a lockdown defender for years to come. In 5 years we'll see who the better defender really is.

Sure, Giannis has more potential as a defender. God forbid he lose that potential due to injury.

Olynyk has more potential as a shooter. Shall we also see who the better scorer is in five years while we're at it?

At least you're willing to revisit things in five years.  Anyone who's offering definitive pronouncements on the future of the NBA Class of 2013 is full of it.

I think no matter what KO will be a better offensive player than Giannis, but Giannis has the potential of being a great two way wing. And at a young age, has plenty of room to grow and develop.

[TheFlex]

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

http://www.82games.com/bestdraftingteams.htm

[Evantime34]

We often outperform our draft slot, because getting a rotation player in the 20's is outperforming the expected.

Sully is already a better pick than who was selected around him. I think Olynyk has a chance to be one of the best 5-10 to come out of his draft, and I'm not sure who we could have picked instead of Smart or Young that would have been better.

[loco_91]

2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

Look at where he picked, only Smart was a lottery pick, and he still needs 3-4 years before we can declare him a 'bust.' Also, I really liked the Young pick, as I think in a few years, he'll be a 16-20 PPG scorer.

I don't think Smart looks to be in ANY danger of busting... He's already a top-10 perimeter defender and a decent role player offensively. It is hard to envision a scenario, except for injury, that doesn't put him as a starting-caliber guard in a couple years.

[Celtics4ever]

. All of Ainges risks just never seem like good risks, like JJJ, JR Giddens, Fab Melo....none of those guys seemed worth it to me at the time of those drafts.

Melo was a mediocre college player, so that one does not get a pass from me or not all here.