Celtics emerging as contender for dragic

[kozlodoev]

He isn't refusing to go to anywhere. But free agency is called "free" for a reason.

Refusing was bad word choice... making it hard I should say. Smart thing to do would be to have kept silent and played out the season in PHX (especially with Suns management reportedly about to trade IT to appease him before his request) then simply go to one of those teams in the offseason... why create this headache now?

I'm thinking he wants to go to a team that's going to give him the reigns and let him average 20 and 6 again... and will be willing to give him a long fat deal in the end. He's not adding much to his value by playing defer on a team that's not going anywhere.

[esel1000]

He isn't refusing to go to anywhere. But free agency is called "free" for a reason.

Refusing was bad word choice... making it hard I should say. Smart thing to do would be to have kept silent and played out the season in PHX (especially with Suns management reportedly about to trade IT to appease him before his request) then simply go to one of those teams in the offseason... why create this headache now?

I'm thinking he wants to go to a team that's going to give him the reigns and let him average 20 and 6 again... and will be willing to give him a long fat deal in the end. He's not adding much to his value by playing defer on a team that's not going anywhere.

Then why refuse a trade to the Kings? It would be him and Cousins running the show and he'd increase his value. I can understand the not wanting to come/stay here because of Smart if he wants to be the main ball handler but the Kings would be a good option, and he'd get out of PHX, and he could walk at the end of the season... Even if it's because he wants a 5 year deal from NY or LA, no guarantee he'd get traded there... if anything I'm starting to think value is so low at this point the Suns take their chances and keep him

[Monkhouse]

He isn't refusing to go to anywhere. But free agency is called "free" for a reason.

Refusing was bad word choice... making it hard I should say. Smart thing to do would be to have kept silent and played out the season in PHX (especially with Suns management reportedly about to trade IT to appease him before his request) then simply go to one of those teams in the offseason... why create this headache now?

I'm thinking he wants to go to a team that's going to give him the reigns and let him average 20 and 6 again... and will be willing to give him a long fat deal in the end. He's not adding much to his value by playing defer on a team that's not going anywhere.

Then why refuse a trade to the Kings? It would be him and Cousins running the show and he'd increase his value. I can understand the not wanting to come/stay here because of Smart if he wants to be the main ball handler but the Kings would be a good option, and he'd get out of PHX, and he could walk at the end of the season... Even if it's because he wants a 5 year deal from NY or LA, no guarantee he'd get traded there... if anything I'm starting to think value is so low at this point the Suns take their chances and keep him

NYK/LAL= Big market teams imo.

[kozlodoev]

He isn't refusing to go to anywhere. But free agency is called "free" for a reason.

Refusing was bad word choice... making it hard I should say. Smart thing to do would be to have kept silent and played out the season in PHX (especially with Suns management reportedly about to trade IT to appease him before his request) then simply go to one of those teams in the offseason... why create this headache now?

I'm thinking he wants to go to a team that's going to give him the reigns and let him average 20 and 6 again... and will be willing to give him a long fat deal in the end. He's not adding much to his value by playing defer on a team that's not going anywhere.

Then why refuse a trade to the Kings? It would be him and Cousins running the show and he'd increase his value. I can understand the not wanting to come/stay here because of Smart if he wants to be the main ball handler but the Kings would be a good option, and he'd get out of PHX, and he could walk at the end of the season... Even if it's because he wants a 5 year deal from NY or LA, no guarantee he'd get traded there... if anything I'm starting to think value is so low at this point the Suns take their chances and keep him

I don't think it's going to pan out that way in Sacramento, where Gay and Cousins have a combined usage rate of close to 60.

[esel1000]

He isn't refusing to go to anywhere. But free agency is called "free" for a reason.

Refusing was bad word choice... making it hard I should say. Smart thing to do would be to have kept silent and played out the season in PHX (especially with Suns management reportedly about to trade IT to appease him before his request) then simply go to one of those teams in the offseason... why create this headache now?

I'm thinking he wants to go to a team that's going to give him the reigns and let him average 20 and 6 again... and will be willing to give him a long fat deal in the end. He's not adding much to his value by playing defer on a team that's not going anywhere.

Then why refuse a trade to the Kings? It would be him and Cousins running the show and he'd increase his value. I can understand the not wanting to come/stay here because of Smart if he wants to be the main ball handler but the Kings would be a good option, and he'd get out of PHX, and he could walk at the end of the season... Even if it's because he wants a 5 year deal from NY or LA, no guarantee he'd get traded there... if anything I'm starting to think value is so low at this point the Suns take their chances and keep him

NYK/LAL= Big market teams imo.

So boost your value in Sacramento and walk at the end of the season if you hate the Suns so much... sorry if only the Kings can offer you a 5 year deal at that point but management's choice to trade you where they want when you request a trade two days before the deadline. He'd be a good fit there anyway, not as much here unless he's willing to play off ball at times which I guess he isn't. Suns messed up with some of their offseason signings but this is just another player trying to cry his way to a big market team.

[wdleehi]

It looks like he is trying to get to one of the teams that are desperate for a big contract player.  Sound like a money grab. 

[Jonny CC]

Dragic and Plumlee for Sullinger and Clippers 1st.

 Since sources are saying that Dragic will not be influenced by the 5th year and will not re-sign with any of the teams that are not on his preferred list, then I would offer....

Dragic and Plumlee for Sullinger and 2 second rounders

I like the idea of getting Plumlee.  He would be a good fit and this would give the C's some long term benefit from the deal if Dragic walks.   

[esel1000]

He isn't refusing to go to anywhere. But free agency is called "free" for a reason.

Refusing was bad word choice... making it hard I should say. Smart thing to do would be to have kept silent and played out the season in PHX (especially with Suns management reportedly about to trade IT to appease him before his request) then simply go to one of those teams in the offseason... why create this headache now?

I'm thinking he wants to go to a team that's going to give him the reigns and let him average 20 and 6 again... and will be willing to give him a long fat deal in the end. He's not adding much to his value by playing defer on a team that's not going anywhere.

Then why refuse a trade to the Kings? It would be him and Cousins running the show and he'd increase his value. I can understand the not wanting to come/stay here because of Smart if he wants to be the main ball handler but the Kings would be a good option, and he'd get out of PHX, and he could walk at the end of the season... Even if it's because he wants a 5 year deal from NY or LA, no guarantee he'd get traded there... if anything I'm starting to think value is so low at this point the Suns take their chances and keep him

I don't think it's going to pan out that way in Sacramento, where Gay and Cousins have a combined usage rate of close to 60.

Schemes under Karl remain to be seen, though I do think Gay's usage rate is way too high as is. Still would be the primary guard there over PHX and be paired up with Cousins. Even if it doesn't work out though walk at the end of the season, why hamper down trades now to get you out of PHX?

[kozlodoev]

Schemes under Karl remain to be seen, though I do think Gay's usage rate is way too high as is. Still would be the primary guard there over PHX and be paired up with Cousins. Even if it doesn't work out though walk at the end of the season, why hamper down trades now to get you out of PHX?

The "primary guard" paired with Cousins right now is posting 16 and 5.5 in 35 minutes per game. If Dragic thought this type of production was helping his case, he'd stay in Phoenix. He doesn't seem to, and I can't blame him.

[esel1000]

Schemes under Karl remain to be seen, though I do think Gay's usage rate is way too high as is. Still would be the primary guard there over PHX and be paired up with Cousins. Even if it doesn't work out though walk at the end of the season, why hamper down trades now to get you out of PHX?

The "primary guard" paired with Cousins right now is posting 16 and 5.5 in 35 minutes per game. If Dragic thought this type of production was helping his case, he'd stay in Phoenix. He doesn't seem to, and I can't blame him.

Best Collison has ever averaged points wise and he's a career 5 apg guy... now it becomes an argument over whose better, Collison or Dragic? Personally I think the fact that Collison is averaging  16 ppg on that team shows that if Dragic is as good as he thinks he is (and did show last year), he should average 20 and 6 in 35 mins

[Stizz44]

Dragic and Plumlee for Sullinger and Clippers 1st.

have we recently heard that dragic will resign with the celtics? if not, if he still intends to leave the celtics if traded here, then why trade assets for a rental during a rebuild year?

Yeah, Celtics on the list of his prefered teams. NYC, LA, Maimi are at the top, but Boston on the list as well. SAC and HOU are def not on the list!

[kozlodoev]

Since sources are saying that Dragic will not be influenced by the 5th year and will not re-sign with any of the teams that are not on his preferred list,

Sources said he'd be happy to forgo the 5th year if he gets a 4-year max offer. Not the same thing.

[dreamgreen]

Dragic and Plumlee for Sullinger and Clippers 1st.

have we recently heard that dragic will resign with the celtics? if not, if he still intends to leave the celtics if traded here, then why trade assets for a rental during a rebuild year?

Yeah, Celtics on the list of his prefered teams. NYC, LA, Maimi are at the top, but Boston on the list as well. SAC and HOU are def not on the list!

 

I'm confused, thought we weren't on the list.

[esel1000]

Dragic and Plumlee for Sullinger and Clippers 1st.

have we recently heard that dragic will resign with the celtics? if not, if he still intends to leave the celtics if traded here, then why trade assets for a rental during a rebuild year?

Yeah, Celtics on the list of his prefered teams. NYC, LA, Maimi are at the top, but Boston on the list as well. SAC and HOU are def not on the list!

 

I'm confused, thought we weren't on the list.

Yeah that's what I thought too... if we were on his list and knew he'd resign it would be a no brainer to give them the Clips pick and AB or something but what makes us that much different than PHX PG wise?

[fairweatherfan]

So there's like, what, 4 hours left before the deadline, and still no deals? 

I don't know if I've ever seen a deadline with this many names tossed around or openly requesting trades but this little actual movement.  Hope this changes soon.