If Celtics landed the 2015 #1 draft pick, would u trade it for DeMarcus Cousins?

[kozlodoev]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

[PickNRoll]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

[Tr1boy]

What for. You draft Okafor . no crybaby attitude

[kozlodoev]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

[PickNRoll]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

They're all max-contract level players.  Not sure if that's different than 'top player'.  I can easily imagine a scenario where Cousins forces his way out of Sactown.  There must be some trades I didn't think of too.

Anyway, would you pull the trigger on a deal like that if you were Vivek and Boogie asked out?

[KeepRondo]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Gross trade. I wouldn't give that much up.

[kozlodoev]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

They're all max-contract level players.  Not sure if that's different than 'top player'.  I can easily imagine a scenario where Cousins forces his way out of Sactown.  There must be some trades I didn't think of too.

Anyway, would you pull the trigger on a deal like that if you were Vivek and Boogie asked out?

Jefferson and Bogut never sniffed anything close to max level (and rightfully so), and Joe Johnson was and is grossly overpaid (which is the reason the Hawks let him go for little in return).

[Moranis]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

They're all max-contract level players.  Not sure if that's different than 'top player'.  I can easily imagine a scenario where Cousins forces his way out of Sactown.  There must be some trades I didn't think of too.

Anyway, would you pull the trigger on a deal like that if you were Vivek and Boogie asked out?

Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Pau Gasol, and many other max level players were traded in their prime.  It is more common for them to be traded then them to leave in free agency.

[kozlodoev]

Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Pau Gasol, and many other max level players were traded in their prime.  It is more common for them to be traded then them to leave in free agency.

That's why I said "normally". If you want to throw in sign-and-trades and expiring contracts that got  forked over instead of walking for nothing, this isn't much of a discussion, really.

[FreddieJ]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

They're all max-contract level players.  Not sure if that's different than 'top player'.  I can easily imagine a scenario where Cousins forces his way out of Sactown.  There must be some trades I didn't think of too.

Anyway, would you pull the trigger on a deal like that if you were Vivek and Boogie asked out?

Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Pau Gasol, and many other max level players were traded in their prime.  It is more common for them to be traded then them to leave in free agency.

What do a lot of them have in common? They were approaching or in the last year of their deal

[PickNRoll]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

They're all max-contract level players.  Not sure if that's different than 'top player'.  I can easily imagine a scenario where Cousins forces his way out of Sactown.  There must be some trades I didn't think of too.

Anyway, would you pull the trigger on a deal like that if you were Vivek and Boogie asked out?

Jefferson and Bogut never sniffed anything close to max level (and rightfully so), and Joe Johnson was and is grossly overpaid (which is the reason the Hawks let him go for little in return).

Jefferson signed a 5 yr / 65M in 2008.  $13M per year when the salary cap was 55.6M.  That's 23.4% of the cap when a max contract would've paid  him 25%.   I would say he "sniffed pretty close".

Bogut makes $12.972M this year.

[Rondo9]

Messing around with the Kings bloggers the other day, I tossed out an offer of Sully, Smart, Young and 4 firsts (2 lotto picks).  Laughter and ridicule.  Wouldn't even consider it.  That's how much the fans think of Boogie.

A top player in his prime, especially a big, is rarely available for a hodgepodge of lesser assets.

Not to be disagreeable, but offhand I can think of some

Shaq to Miami
KG to Boston
Melo to NY
Joe Johnson to Atlanta
Dwight Howard to LA
Bogut to GSW
Big Al to Utah
Jason Kidd to Phoenix
Barkley to Phoenix
Mourning to Miami

Some of these were not top players, others forced their way out, and not all are bigs. Even with this in mind, it's still a fairly small list for the time period.

They're all max-contract level players.  Not sure if that's different than 'top player'.  I can easily imagine a scenario where Cousins forces his way out of Sactown.  There must be some trades I didn't think of too.

Anyway, would you pull the trigger on a deal like that if you were Vivek and Boogie asked out?

Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Pau Gasol, and many other max level players were traded in their prime.  It is more common for them to be traded then them to leave in free agency.

Didn't Lebron get signed and traded to Miami as well?

[Roy H.]

This is a really good article about Boogie this year:

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/2/6/7991269/weight-of-kings-on-Cousins-shoudlers

[SHAQATTACK]

Be careful 

Or

da

Boogie Man

Gonna. Get ya!

[Kane3387]

Not sure. Okafor is an exceptional prospect who appears to not have the baggage DMC has. A big thing here would be the difference in their salaries too. Okafor would make rookie chump change. DMC is the max.

Now obviously DMC is proven.

It comes down to $, okafors potential, and baggage vs proven talent.