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Re: Woj: Celtics agree to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2015, 06:02:44 PM »

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I usually get annoyed when posters do a 180 and vilify a player ten seconds after he's traded. That said: Good riddance Jeffrey. I don't think he's a bad person but he noticeably sulked the instant Rondo was dealt and that strikes me as unprofessional. I'm glad we got something for him, but I'm also glad he's gone. That said, I hope Memphis wins the West and he plays a role in that.
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Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2015, 06:04:37 PM »

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I posted this in the other thread.  I'm not sure how the protections could work... they already have a heavily protected pick going to Denver.

How do we get a 1st from them if they already have a heavily protected 1st going to Denver.

Someone figure this out...

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2015 first round draft pick to Denver
Memphis' 1st round pick to Denver (via Cleveland) protected for selections 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015, 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 and 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019 [Cleveland-Memphis, 1/22/2013; Cleveland-Denver, 1/7/2015]
Read more at http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed#CsCrCAGY5EQ6A8Cc.99

So how could they send us a 1st?  It's would have to be some weird protection... something like this?

2015 Draft:  1-5 = Memphis keeps it, 6-14 = Goes to Denver, 15-30 = goes to Boston

Then depending on what happens it will have to roll over into 2016... so if it goes to Denver this year and maybe the rest of the protection they had given to Denver goes to us:  Protected 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 and 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019

Does that make sense to anyone else or am I crazy?

They could not do that, because it would then be possible for them to have no first round picks in consecutive future years.  Unless we send them back a first rounder (so a swap), we cannot get a first until two years after they send a pick to Denver.

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2015, 06:04:42 PM »

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Sorry for using the wrong phrasing, just saw the tweet and jumped to post. Read it as "reaching agreement" instead of "nearing"

Apologies. Should be official soon or else I'm no better than the 14 year old baseball insider

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2015, 06:05:35 PM »

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With the protections on the MEM obligation to DEN, it's likely the 1st isn't paid until 2019.
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Re: Woj: Celtics agree to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2015, 06:05:37 PM »

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I usually get annoyed when posters do a 180 and vilify a player ten seconds after he's traded. That said: Good riddance Jeffrey. I don't think he's a bad person but he noticeably sulked the instant Rondo was dealt and that strikes me as unprofessional. I'm glad we got something for him, but I'm also glad he's gone. That said, I hope Memphis wins the West and he plays a role in that.

I'm not going to miss his uninspired play.  His talent was always such a tease.  If only he could play the game like Crowder does.

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2015, 06:06:55 PM »

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Jeff Green had one of the worst plus and minus on and off court on the team.

He always played like it was preseason.

Mr. October.


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Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2015, 06:07:30 PM »

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I presume (hope) Prince gets instantly bought out?

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2015, 06:08:07 PM »

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I presume (hope) Prince gets instantly bought out?
No, why?
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Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2015, 06:08:24 PM »

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I presume (hope) Prince gets instantly bought out?

I hope this is the case as well

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2015, 06:09:30 PM »

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I presume (hope) Prince gets instantly bought out?

No.. Hes still an expiring contract... We can flip him for possibly a better 2nd rounder. Jamneer may be bought out cause he has an PO which he'll most likely accept.
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Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2015, 06:09:37 PM »

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I posted this in the other thread.  I'm not sure how the protections could work... they already have a heavily protected pick going to Denver.

How do we get a 1st from them if they already have a heavily protected 1st going to Denver.

Someone figure this out...

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2015 first round draft pick to Denver
Memphis' 1st round pick to Denver (via Cleveland) protected for selections 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015, 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 and 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019 [Cleveland-Memphis, 1/22/2013; Cleveland-Denver, 1/7/2015]
Read more at http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed#CsCrCAGY5EQ6A8Cc.99

So how could they send us a 1st?  It's would have to be some weird protection... something like this?

2015 Draft:  1-5 = Memphis keeps it, 6-14 = Goes to Denver, 15-30 = goes to Boston

Then depending on what happens it will have to roll over into 2016... so if it goes to Denver this year and maybe the rest of the protection they had given to Denver goes to us:  Protected 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 and 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019

Does that make sense to anyone else or am I crazy?

They could not do that, because it would then be possible for them to have no first round picks in consecutive future years.  Unless we send them back a first rounder (so a swap), we cannot get a first until two years after they send a pick to Denver.
Oh you're right... because if it goes to us this year, it would probably go to Denver next year...   Interesting.

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2015, 06:12:44 PM »

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Is this a dream?  Can it be true?  He's finally gone?  What took you so long, Danny?  Geesh. ::) ;D

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2015, 06:13:04 PM »

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I presume (hope) Prince gets instantly bought out?

No.. Hes still an expiring contract... We can flip him for possibly a better 2nd rounder. Jamneer may be bought out cause he has an PO which he'll most likely accept.

I don't think you get a 2nd rounder for Prince. His contract is too big ... too hard to trade for someone who is likely a 15mpg bench guy with low production.

I think a buyout is all to hope for here. Like Jameer.

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2015, 06:13:59 PM »

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Jeff Green had one of the worst plus and minus on and off court on the team.

He always played like it was preseason.

Mr. October.


BAHAHAHAHA TP

I concur.  That's outstanding.  TP ;D

Re: Woj: Celtics nearing agreement to trade Green to Memphis
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2015, 06:14:02 PM »

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I presume (hope) Prince gets instantly bought out?

No.. Hes still an expiring contract... We can flip him for possibly a better 2nd rounder. Jamneer may be bought out cause he has an PO which he'll most likely accept.

I don't think you get a 2nd rounder for Prince. His contract is too big ... too hard to trade for someone who is likely a 15mpg bench guy with low production.

I think a buyout is all to hope for here. Like Jameer.

Hmmm...

Hopefully Ainge works his magic.
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