Source: C's and Wiz working on sign and trade involving Kris Humphries

[saltlover]

4,5M$ TE not usefull.

Add Joel Anthony and get 8,5M$ TE.

That's the deal.

That's not how the rules work.  At all.

That's exactly how the rules work. If the Wizards have enough in their TPE to absorb both Humphries and Anthony, then we will end up getting a TPE equal to their combined salaries. You can do this if the Wizards would agree (I doubt it).

Nyet.  You get one per player.  If the Wizards could absorb both Hump and Bogans (they can't, so it's all moot), the C's would get a TPE for Hump and a TPE for Bogans, which couldn't be combined with each other.

[Chief Macho]

Anything better than watching Green play again.

You prefer starting Gerald Wallace?

yes.

[LooseCannon]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 
Kris Humphries has agreed to a three-year, $13M deal with Washington, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Team option on third year.

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA  2m
The Wizards and Celtics are working to complete a sign-and-trade for Humphries now.

It drives me nuts that people can't tell the difference between a team option and an unguaranteed year.  A contract in a sign-and-trade has to be at least three years, not including options.  So, you can't do a sign-and-trade for Kris Humphries with the third year as a team option.  You can do it with the final year wholly unguaranteed.

[D.o.s.]

Yeah, you definitely can't combine new trade exceptions with old ones. That's a flight of fancy worthy of some potent Celtics Green.

[Chief Macho]

Kind of wish Danny could expand this and bring back Porter.   Crap,  they've got ton's of firsts and jeff green.   Do something fun for my amusement.   Anything better than watching Green play again.   Mofo's should pay me the 200 bucks for the nba package trotting out that zombie.

if you don't want green, what makes you think another team wants green?

Green is tradeable.  It's just Danny isn't getting as much as HE thinks Green is worth.   I'm not disagreeing with DA.   I'm just saying Jeff Green blows, and I'd trade him for less because I can't stand to watch him play another season.

[Fafnir]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 
Kris Humphries has agreed to a three-year, $13M deal with Washington, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Team option on third year.

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA  2m
The Wizards and Celtics are working to complete a sign-and-trade for Humphries now.

It drives me nuts that people can't tell the difference between a team option and an unguaranteed year.  A contract in a sign-and-trade has to be at least three years, not including options.  So, you can't do a sign-and-trade for Kris Humphries with the third year as a team option.  You can do it with the final year wholly unguaranteed.

Why does it drive you nuts? Its not like the functional difference is huge.

[Lioney]

4,5M$ TE not usefull.

Add Joel Anthony and get 8,5M$ TE.

That's the deal.

That's not how the rules work.  At all.

That's exactly how the rules work. If the Wizards have enough in their TPE to absorb both Humphries and Anthony, then we will end up getting a TPE equal to their combined salaries. You can do this if the Wizards would agree (I doubt it).

Nyet.  You get one per player.  If the Wizards could absorb both Hump and Bogans (they can't, so it's all moot), the C's would get a TPE for Hump and a TPE for Bogans, which couldn't be combined with each other.

So Wizards can split TE for Hump(4,5M$) and Joel(3,8MM$)?

[D.o.s.]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 
Kris Humphries has agreed to a three-year, $13M deal with Washington, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Team option on third year.

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA  2m
The Wizards and Celtics are working to complete a sign-and-trade for Humphries now.

It drives me nuts that people can't tell the difference between a team option and an unguaranteed year.  A contract in a sign-and-trade has to be at least three years, not including options.  So, you can't do a sign-and-trade for Kris Humphries with the third year as a team option.  You can do it with the final year wholly unguaranteed.

Why does it drive you nuts? Its not like the function difference is huge.

It does mean that Woj's sources don't seem to understand how the CBA works.

[LooseCannon]

Anything better than watching Green play again.

You prefer starting Gerald Wallace?

yes.

Bring back Bill Walker?
Trade Green and a first for Josh Smith with the intention of playing J-Smoove solely as a SF?
Green for Tayshaun Prince?
Get Corey "I am a significantly worse rebounder than Jeff Green" Brewer from Minnesota?

[LooseCannon]

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 
Kris Humphries has agreed to a three-year, $13M deal with Washington, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Team option on third year.

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA  2m
The Wizards and Celtics are working to complete a sign-and-trade for Humphries now.

It drives me nuts that people can't tell the difference between a team option and an unguaranteed year.  A contract in a sign-and-trade has to be at least three years, not including options.  So, you can't do a sign-and-trade for Kris Humphries with the third year as a team option.  You can do it with the final year wholly unguaranteed.

Why does it drive you nuts? Its not like the functional difference is huge.

It makes a significant difference if you want to trade him after two years.

It's as annoying as people who type "should of" instead of "should have" or "should've".  If you understand why that drives some people nuts, it's the same thing to me.

[saltlover]

4,5M$ TE not usefull.

Add Joel Anthony and get 8,5M$ TE.

That's the deal.

That's not how the rules work.  At all.

That's exactly how the rules work. If the Wizards have enough in their TPE to absorb both Humphries and Anthony, then we will end up getting a TPE equal to their combined salaries. You can do this if the Wizards would agree (I doubt it).

Nyet.  You get one per player.  If the Wizards could absorb both Hump and Bogans (they can't, so it's all moot), the C's would get a TPE for Hump and a TPE for Bogans, which couldn't be combined with each other.

So Wizards can split TE for Hump(4,5M$) and Joel(3,8MM$)?

Yes, they can do that.  I had an arithmetic error saying they couldn't afford both.  But getting back to reality, they aren't going to, and doing so would provide limited benefit to the Celtics, who are already clearly willing to take on deadweight salary this year.

It should be Hump for a TPE and a second round pick.  If we're unlucky that pick will be slightly protected (Top 40), and if we're lucky it will be two seconds.  Hump isn't a good enough player for a first.  We can dream, of course.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

Kind of wish Danny could expand this and bring back Porter.   Crap,  they've got ton's of firsts and jeff green.   Do something fun for my amusement.   Anything better than watching Green play again.   Mofo's should pay me the 200 bucks for the nba package trotting out that zombie.

if you don't want green, what makes you think another team wants green?

Green is tradeable.  It's just Danny isn't getting as much as HE thinks Green is worth.   I'm not disagreeing with DA.   I'm just saying Jeff Green blows, and I'd trade him for less because I can't stand to watch him play another season.

1.Jeff Green can be a key piece or a X-factor if we had a super star to play with Rondo.
2. He could also be a key piece to a blockbuster trade. Doesn't he only make 10 mill? No reason to blow him off before his contract ends especially for nothing!

 Assuming DA's telling himself he'd be great if we can make him a 3rd or 4th option again, he'd be great to tip of a huge trade. No reaso nat alll to rush him out. There going to play it out  with green. Just like there doing with Rondo

[crownontherocks]

Are we still working on a sign and trade with the wizards? Or did we get a TE from them?

[kozlodoev]

So Wizards can split TE for Hump(4,5M$) and Joel(3,8MM$)?

A TPE gives you the ability to absorb up to a given number in salary. It doesn't matter in how many transactions.

I forgot you can't combine players in TPE transactions, though -- so no way to consolidate two salaries in one TPE.

[Dchuck]

It's a pipe dream but man would I like Porter to be involved in this