Celtics First to Call Thomas

[Jailan34]

I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.

first off, if you haven't noticed the obvious by now, all signs are pointing to moving rondo as he doesn't want to be on a tanking team and we don't want to pay the max for him. Next, we need replacements for both rondo and Avery whom we will also move on from ... That's where Thomas comes in. Excellent player with huge upside (unlike gortat).... We need young players with scoring ability and upside to flip like we did to Crawford.

Thomas doesn't have huge upside. He'll always be limited by his size. For all we know 20-6 is going to be his career year.

[D.o.s.]

I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.

first off, if you haven't noticed the obvious by now, all signs are pointing to moving rondo as he doesn't want to be on a tanking team and we don't want to pay the max for him. Next, we need replacements for both rondo and Avery whom we will also move on from ... That's where Thomas comes in. Excellent player with huge upside (unlike gortat).... We need young players with scoring ability and upside to flip like we did to Crawford.

To crib a bit from Tim's usual rap, Rondo's been "obviously gone" since roughly 2010. He's still here.

I'll buy a jersey at discount if he moves to a different franchise, but not before.

[TwinTower14]

Pelton from ESPN insider article today - We know how much DA and Steven's value numbers...

8. Isaiah Thomas, G, Sacramento Kings (R)
3-year WARP: 22.9 | 2014-15: 8.7 WARP, .563 Win%, +2.4 RPM

Quietly, Thomas had an outstanding season as a starter for the Kings, posting a career-high 20.5 PER. Remarkably efficient for a shoot-first point guard, Thomas has posted precisely a .574 TS% in all three of his NBA campaigns. Because of his size and tendency to shoot before passing, it's easy to dismiss how much he helps a team, but RPM rates him as positively as box-score stats. If Sacramento is willing to let Thomas leave -- seemingly less likely after it passed on drafting a point guard -- Thomas could be the best player on the market to actually change teams

[LilRip]

I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.

first off, if you haven't noticed the obvious by now, all signs are pointing to moving rondo as he doesn't want to be on a tanking team and we don't want to pay the max for him. Next, we need replacements for both rondo and Avery whom we will also move on from ... That's where Thomas comes in. Excellent player with huge upside (unlike gortat).... We need young players with scoring ability and upside to flip like we did to Crawford.

To crib a bit from Tim's usual rap, Rondo's been "obviously gone" since roughly 2010. He's still here.

I'll buy a jersey at discount if he moves to a different franchise, but not before.

Exactly. It has made "perfect sense" to move Rondo so many times before this offseason. Sure it's fun to talk about trades and player movement and speculate in general, but until a Rondo trade actually goes down, that's all it is. Speculation.

[Birdman]

Rondo has been getting traded since he came here..

[fairweatherfan]

Between this and the other guys, it seems like Danny's strategy this offseason is to try and snap up solid roleplayers with potential before other teams can get to them. 

Guys like Thomas, Bazemore, Hill usually start getting offers only after the first few waves of quality guys get sorted out.  They also tend to be more motivated to grab the first good deal ASAP so they aren't left hanging at the end of the musical chairs phase.  Danny's not going for any of the elite guys, so he seems to be hoping to set things up to grab some of the lower-caliber, motivated-to-sign FAs early at a discount.

...of course if the 3 yr/$24 million rumor for Thomas is correct, our courtship of him had better be short-lived.

[Tr1boy]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

[ssspence]

Posted this elsewhere -- maybe it lives here. I think a deal that involves the following make some sense:

BOS gets: Monroe @10mil per year, McLemore, D. Williams, Thompson, (filler at half Wallace's $$$ for same # of years)
BOS trades: Rondo, G. Wallace, J. Green

SAC gets: J. Smith, Rondo, G. Wallace
SAC trades: I. Thomas, McLemore, D. Williams, Thompson

DET gets: J. Green, I. Thomas @ 8mil per year
DET trades: J. Smith, Greg Monroe

[vinnie]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

Yeah. I am sure Rondo is sitting around worried about guys like Thomas and Smart. And has been posted earlier, Rondo did not congratulate last year's draft picks either. Rondo has as much if not more confidence in his abilities than any other player in the league. While I am sure he is wondering what the hell is going on, at the same time, I am also sure that he knows he can and will outplay both Smart and Thomas.

[TwinTower14]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

Yeah. I am sure Rondo is sitting around worried about guys like Thomas and Smart. And has been posted earlier, Rondo did not congratulate last year's draft picks either. Rondo has as much if not more confidence in his abilities than any other player in the league. While I am sure he is wondering what the hell is going on, at the same time, I am also sure that he knows he can and will outplay both Smart and Thomas.

Steven's said last night on the Comcast show that he hasn't talked to Rondo since before the draft and hoped to text him this week.  Rondo shouldn't be involved in the FA process, he is not a franchise guy and doesn't have that kind of clout IMO...

[ssspence]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

There are <5 players in the league who legitimately have the right to expect influence over team personnel decisions. Laughable for Rondo to think he's one of them.

[Tr1boy]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

Yeah. I am sure Rondo is sitting around worried about guys like Thomas and Smart. And has been posted earlier, Rondo did not congratulate last year's draft picks either. Rondo has as much if not more confidence in his abilities than any other player in the league. While I am sure he is wondering what the hell is going on, at the same time, I am also sure that he knows he can and will outplay both Smart and Thomas.

I don't know about Thomas but Smart imo will be a better player to build around vs Rondo.

[TwinTower14]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

Yeah. I am sure Rondo is sitting around worried about guys like Thomas and Smart. And has been posted earlier, Rondo did not congratulate last year's draft picks either. Rondo has as much if not more confidence in his abilities than any other player in the league. While I am sure he is wondering what the hell is going on, at the same time, I am also sure that he knows he can and will outplay both Smart and Thomas.

I don't know about Thomas but Smart imo will be a better player to build around vs Rondo.

totally agree - Rondo is a very good player but he is not anything close to being a leader...I think Smart is going to be a better pro than collegiate and he was a beast in college and I think his intangibles are through the roof....I am hoping he stays for a while....

[sed522002]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

He didn't publicly congrats Sully or Kelly either...I guess he didn't want them drafted either.

[sed522002]

Remember how rondo said he would like to be involved in the FA process. Guess thats out the door. No way he would be happy to have thomas breathing down his neck.

Dont think he wanted the celts to draft smart either. He has not said anything publicly yet about the pickups. No congrats or anything.

Yeah. I am sure Rondo is sitting around worried about guys like Thomas and Smart. And has been posted earlier, Rondo did not congratulate last year's draft picks either. Rondo has as much if not more confidence in his abilities than any other player in the league. While I am sure he is wondering what the hell is going on, at the same time, I am also sure that he knows he can and will outplay both Smart and Thomas.

I don't know about Thomas but Smart imo will be a better player to build around vs Rondo.

Can we at least see him play ONE NBA game before saying he's better to build around. Not saying that he's not, but can we at least see him play before giving these comparisons.