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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2014, 11:58:56 AM »

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Pistons reportedly offered Thomas 3 years 24 mil... pass pass pass

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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #91 on: July 01, 2014, 12:15:36 PM »

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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2014, 12:17:23 PM »

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There's only one reason Ainge calls Thomas, either Smart or Rondo are on the block.

I disagree on this.  Thomas is a scoring guard, and could share the floor with either Rondo or Smart.  It could be that Rondo or Smart are on the block, or it could be the C's are willing to let Bradley walk.  Thomas replaces Bayless' role, while Smart replaces Bradley's role.

He could share the floor with Smart, yes...But, then the C's are taking away from developing Smart at the '1' to do so...Rondo & Thomas together? Eh, Rondo is declining defensively and that's a really small back court...

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #93 on: July 01, 2014, 12:26:25 PM »

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There's only one reason Ainge calls Thomas, either Smart or Rondo are on the block.

I disagree on this.  Thomas is a scoring guard, and could share the floor with either Rondo or Smart.  It could be that Rondo or Smart are on the block, or it could be the C's are willing to let Bradley walk.  Thomas replaces Bayless' role, while Smart replaces Bradley's role.

He could share the floor with Smart, yes...But, then the C's are taking away from developing Smart at the '1' to do so...Rondo & Thomas together? Eh, Rondo is declining defensively and that's a really small back court...

The Celtics don't have cap space to sign Thomas, so I think it would have to be a sign and trade with Rondo going to the Kings as these two teams previously discussed.  Hopefully, Stauskas would be the other piece coming to Boston.
Smart, Stauskas, and Thomas would be a very promising back court.  Their skills would compliment each other well.  Young will mostly see time at the 3.

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #94 on: July 01, 2014, 12:33:16 PM »

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There's only one reason Ainge calls Thomas, either Smart or Rondo are on the block.

I disagree on this.  Thomas is a scoring guard, and could share the floor with either Rondo or Smart.  It could be that Rondo or Smart are on the block, or it could be the C's are willing to let Bradley walk.  Thomas replaces Bayless' role, while Smart replaces Bradley's role.

He could share the floor with Smart, yes...But, then the C's are taking away from developing Smart at the '1' to do so...Rondo & Thomas together? Eh, Rondo is declining defensively and that's a really small back court...

The Celtics don't have cap space to sign Thomas, so I think it would have to be a sign and trade with Rondo going to the Kings as these two teams previously discussed.  Hopefully, Stauskas would be the other piece coming to Boston.
Smart, Stauskas, and Thomas would be a very promising back court.  Their skills would compliment each other well.  Young will mostly see time at the 3.

It would have to be a sign-and-trade, but that's it.  Thomas' first-year salary would certainly fit under the Pierce TPE, or could be matched with our non-guaranteed deals.  Sacramento isn't interested in keeping him -- I'm sure they'd take the Philly pick instead of having him go elsewhere (such as Dallas) for nothing.

Does it make sense for him to be traded for Rondo?  Sure, it does.  But just because a PG swap makes sense, it doesn't mean it is the only possibility.

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2014, 12:39:57 PM »

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Rondo and Wallace for Thomas @ ~6-8mil per, McLemore, Thompson and Outlaw is about strong a deal as Boston is going to see for Rondo.

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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #96 on: July 01, 2014, 12:42:03 PM »

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I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.
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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #97 on: July 01, 2014, 12:43:42 PM »

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I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.

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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #98 on: July 01, 2014, 12:50:10 PM »

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Pistons reportedly offered Thomas 3 years 24 mil... pass pass pass

Whither Brandon Jennings?

I don't see how those two could be on the court together given their height.

Just to think outside the box, could Detroit be making a power play to sweeten their deal in a three way deal?  We know the Celtics are interested in Thomas and discussed a trade last season.  We know the Kings talked to the Pistons about Smith and the rumored trade wasn't giving Detroit much talent back and Detroit nixed it.  Detroit is now offering an above market deal to Thomas and potentially screwing up the Celtics and Kings plans.  Maybe Detroit is telling the Kings and Celtics they want in on the three way, but need more in return or they will blow up the Celtics/Kings part of it.

So Rondo gets traded to Detroit for Monroe and then Detroit trades Rondo to Sacramento for Thomas and ........

No, I'm think Rondo and Smith to the Kings, Thomas and McLemore or Stauskas to the Celts, D Williams and Thompson to the Pistons.  These are essentially the deals that were previously discussed.  But Detroit wants more and they threaten to blow it up.  Maybe they want draft picks.  Maybe they talk the Celtics in on a Bradley sign and trade.

Detroit is stuck with Jennings and signing Thomas will just cause headaches.  Just wondering if Detroit has an ulterior motive.

This deal could be worked out so it improves all three teams.

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #99 on: July 01, 2014, 01:13:22 PM »

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I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.

The rumor is that the Celtics were the first team to call Thomas.  There is nothing in the rumor mill that says that Thomas was the first player contacted by the Celtics.

If there is something in the works, my suspicion would be that it involves the rumor about McLemore and the #6 pick.  If there is a Thomas sign-and-trade, I wouldn't be shocked if it involves Smart instead of Rondo.
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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #100 on: July 01, 2014, 01:14:09 PM »

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I think we should have traded Rondo on draft night or before.  This is bad business imo. Drafting Smart was a good move, but trading Rondo for an undersized pg after drafting Smart makes me scratch my head.

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #101 on: July 01, 2014, 01:17:30 PM »

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We called 30 people, just because we were the first to call Thomas doesn't mean he was the first guy WE contacted.  Thomas is a decent player, there are scenarios where it would be totally great to have him on board.  Let's not all freak out quite yet. 

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #102 on: July 01, 2014, 01:25:14 PM »

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I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.

The rumor is that the Celtics were the first team to call Thomas.  There is nothing in the rumor mill that says that Thomas was the first player contacted by the Celtics.

ah, tricky! I just assumed it meant the same thing since teams usually call at 12:01am, and presumably, phone calls of that nature last at least a few minutes.

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If there is something in the works, my suspicion would be that it involves the rumor about McLemore and the #6 pick.  If there is a Thomas sign-and-trade, I wouldn't be shocked if it involves Smart instead of Rondo.

Honestly, I think I'd be more shocked if it was Smart moved instead of Rondo. i mean, wasn't he just introduced? I think if they were going to deal him (particularly in the near future), they would defer that whole "rookie introduction press con" a bit.

anyway, Wojo tweeted around 4am earlier that some deals could happen as early as Tuesday afternoon. Maybe the C's will be a part of that, maybe they won't. Likely not but we shall see.

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Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #103 on: July 01, 2014, 01:48:05 PM »

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I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.
first off, if you haven't noticed the obvious by now, all signs are pointing to moving rondo as he doesn't want to be on a tanking team and we don't want to pay the max for him. Next, we need replacements for both rondo and Avery whom we will also move on from ... That's where Thomas comes in. Excellent player with huge upside (unlike gortat).... We need young players with scoring ability and upside to flip like we did to Crawford.

Re: Celtics First to Call Thomas
« Reply #104 on: July 01, 2014, 02:05:33 PM »

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I still can't get over the fact that it was Isiah Thomas. Not Jordan Hill. Not Marcin Gortat. Not any type of big man. But a point guard. When our current franchise player is a point guard and our highest draft pick in recent years is a point guard/combo guard. How many point guards does this team need??

It definitely feels like something is in the works with Sacto. Whether it comes to fruition or not is a whole other story. Maybe we'll find out about it years later, like that Allen-Mayo trade.
first off, if you haven't noticed the obvious by now, all signs are pointing to moving rondo as he doesn't want to be on a tanking team and we don't want to pay the max for him. Next, we need replacements for both rondo and Avery whom we will also move on from ... That's where Thomas comes in. Excellent player with huge upside (unlike gortat).... We need young players with scoring ability and upside to flip like we did to Crawford.

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