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Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2014, 06:29:33 PM »

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Flip is right. Love is mentally weak. At least play out your contract

And then leave and come to BOS....with Minny getting nothing in return. That's smart.

Or - sending him to somewhere that he won't sign an extension with, thus probably getting THAT Gm fired for even accepting a one-year rental.

Just let love join up with Rondo, Flip...man up. Love does have leverage. I understand now why KG had/has so much disdain for Minny while he was in BOS....they held onto him for too long.

Flip sounds like a pr***

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2014, 06:35:01 PM »

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Flips comments are idiotic. The KG reference was a bit different. KG was pointing the finger at players, and putting them down.

Love is at the Ownership. Which he should be frustrated. They haven't drafted well, I think the Love draft may have been pure luck. And Love isn't an idiot. He probably saw what KG went threw, and I wonder if he has even gone as far as to talk to KG and asked if that's what he had gone thew. Things haven't changed since KG's time at all.

I don't blame Love for wanting out, instead of wasting his time with a mediocre team in a tough conference.

Flip could have handled this better. being petty about this will hurt signing FA's. If he would have just kept his mouth shut, made a deal to get Love to were he wanted to go, it would have looked better. I get he's trying to make it look like he runs the team and not the players, but he's going about it very poorly.


Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2014, 06:35:37 PM »

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Regardless of Flip's apparent spite for BOS (according to his recent "Tim Duncan-BOS" comments), he and Minny MUST recognize that BOS can offer a lot.

Maybe he realizes that and is using the Carmelo Anthony trade as a template for playing hardball and holding out for everything the Celtics can offer.  Maybe Flip doesn't want to be like McHale asking for Rondo then accepting Telfair, but is going to accept nothing less than what he wants.

He might not be able to get exactly what he wants, but something close to it. He doesn't want to let Love go and get nothing in return.

He may not want that, but he might be willing to risk it.  He may be willing to hold firm all the way to the trade deadline.  If he doesn't get what he wants, I think he'd be willing to see if making the playoffs can change Love's mind and, if it doesn't or if they can't win,  revisit possible deals in mid-season. 
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Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2014, 06:37:40 PM »

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Regardless of Flip's apparent spite for BOS (according to his recent "Tim Duncan-BOS" comments), he and Minny MUST recognize that BOS can offer a lot.

Maybe he realizes that and is using the Carmelo Anthony trade as a template for playing hardball and holding out for everything the Celtics can offer.  Maybe Flip doesn't want to be like McHale asking for Rondo then accepting Telfair, but is going to accept nothing less than what he wants.

He might not be able to get exactly what he wants, but something close to it. He doesn't want to let Love go and get nothing in return.

He may not want that, but he might be willing to risk it.  He may be willing to hold firm all the way to the trade deadline.  If he doesn't get what he wants, I think he'd be willing to see if making the playoffs can change Love's mind and, if it doesn't or if they can't win,  revisit possible deals in mid-season.

If he was trying to change Love's mind, he wouldn't be throwing him under the buss in the media or coaching the team himself.

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2014, 06:37:56 PM »

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There's going to be a Ricky Rubio era? What is this league coming to?

But Ricky got them flashy passes. /sarcasm

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2014, 06:39:04 PM »

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Suns have no chance at love, why in the world would he agree to sign with them if Dragic and Bledsoe are gone.

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2014, 06:41:32 PM »

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Suns have no chance at love, why in the world would he agree to sign with them if Dragic and Bledsoe are gone.

And why would Minny want two pointguards?

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2014, 06:46:01 PM »

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Suns have no chance at love, why in the world would he agree to sign with them if Dragic and Bledsoe are gone.

And why would Minny want two pointguards?

or three with Rubio?

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2014, 06:50:49 PM »

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Regardless of Flip's apparent spite for BOS (according to his recent "Tim Duncan-BOS" comments), he and Minny MUST recognize that BOS can offer a lot.

Maybe he realizes that and is using the Carmelo Anthony trade as a template for playing hardball and holding out for everything the Celtics can offer.  Maybe Flip doesn't want to be like McHale asking for Rondo then accepting Telfair, but is going to accept nothing less than what he wants.

He might not be able to get exactly what he wants, but something close to it. He doesn't want to let Love go and get nothing in return.

He may not want that, but he might be willing to risk it.  He may be willing to hold firm all the way to the trade deadline.  If he doesn't get what he wants, I think he'd be willing to see if making the playoffs can change Love's mind and, if it doesn't or if they can't win,  revisit possible deals in mid-season.

If he was trying to change Love's mind, he wouldn't be throwing him under the buss in the media or coaching the team himself.

It sounds like Saunders always wanted to coach the team but tried to land a big name to satisfy his owner.  Saunders may be thinking that he needs to lay down a marker immediately to establish that he is in control because that is what he thinks will maximize the team's wins.  In his mind, maybe he believes Love will get over any hard feelings if the wins pile up.

What if Flip Saunders thinks he can be the difference maker that brings the Wolves to the playoffs without major roster changes and desperately wants a chance to prove it, so won't agree to a trade unless an offer blows him away or Glen Taylor  makes him take it?  That scenario might not be true, but I think it is at least reasonably possible.
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Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2014, 06:53:58 PM »

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Suns have no chance at love, why in the world would he agree to sign with them if Dragic and Bledsoe are gone.

And why would Minny want two pointguards?

or three with Rubio?

Yeah, I meant two additional pointguards.

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2014, 06:56:35 PM »

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Regardless of Flip's apparent spite for BOS (according to his recent "Tim Duncan-BOS" comments), he and Minny MUST recognize that BOS can offer a lot.

Maybe he realizes that and is using the Carmelo Anthony trade as a template for playing hardball and holding out for everything the Celtics can offer.  Maybe Flip doesn't want to be like McHale asking for Rondo then accepting Telfair, but is going to accept nothing less than what he wants.

He might not be able to get exactly what he wants, but something close to it. He doesn't want to let Love go and get nothing in return.

He may not want that, but he might be willing to risk it.  He may be willing to hold firm all the way to the trade deadline.  If he doesn't get what he wants, I think he'd be willing to see if making the playoffs can change Love's mind and, if it doesn't or if they can't win,  revisit possible deals in mid-season.

If he was trying to change Love's mind, he wouldn't be throwing him under the buss in the media or coaching the team himself.

It sounds like Saunders always wanted to coach the team but tried to land a big name to satisfy his owner.  Saunders may be thinking that he needs to lay down a marker immediately to establish that he is in control because that is what he thinks will maximize the team's wins.  In his mind, maybe he believes Love will get over any hard feelings if the wins pile up.

What if Flip Saunders thinks he can be the difference maker that brings the Wolves to the playoffs without major roster changes and desperately wants a chance to prove it, so won't agree to a trade unless an offer blows him away or Glen Taylor  makes him take it?  That scenario might not be true, but I think it is at least reasonably possible.

that sounds pretty far-fetched to me

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2014, 06:59:14 PM »

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Flip sounds frustrated.

Too bad he doesn't have a right to be. ;)
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Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2014, 07:13:50 PM »

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Flip is right. Love is mentally weak. At least play out your contract.[/b][/u]

I'm shocked to think you like Gordon better than Love.

Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2014, 07:14:37 PM »

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Flip is right. Love is mentally weak. At least play out your contract

So if Danny just let Rondo play out his contract, knowing that he wants to leave and he's touring a potential new city, you'd be totally cool with that?

nooo.  A player has a contract. If the team asks them will you resign the next after, you don't have to comment or tell them you likely won't.  You can say your not coming back etc.

But if the team says that doesn't matter right now, ready for next season?? You say yes

Like i said before unless you been mistreated (like Asik sort of was with the Rockets bringing in Dhoward) etc. You play out your contract

The team can by the trade deadline, trade you, thats the power they have.

When a player is a FA , they have alot of the power to go where they want for how much etc.
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Re: Flip: Love doesn't have a right to be frustrated
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2014, 07:41:27 PM »

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Flip is right. Love is mentally weak. At least play out your contract

So if Danny just let Rondo play out his contract, knowing that he wants to leave and he's touring a potential new city, you'd be totally cool with that?

nooo.  A player has a contract. If the team asks them will you resign the next after, you don't have to comment or tell them you likely won't.  You can say your not coming back etc.

But if the team says that doesn't matter right now, ready for next season?? You say yes

Like i said before unless you been mistreated (like Asik sort of was with the Rockets bringing in Dhoward) etc. You play out your contract

The team can by the trade deadline, trade you, thats the power they have.

When a player is a FA , they have alot of the power to go where they want for how much etc.

I call bull. If Rondo left at the end of the season without the team getting a chance to get something for him, you'd be one of the first people in the mob with a pitchfork. If a player knows he's not staying, that doesn't make him mentally weak. It's honest.
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