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Trade for Nerlens Noel
« on: May 21, 2014, 07:44:08 AM »

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Philly is slotted at 3 and there's a good chance Embiid is the guy available at that spot.  Does that make Noel available, as he plays the same position?  What would it take to acquire him?

This could be an interesting avenue to go if trading for a star (Love) is not an option.

A move like #6 for Noel + #10 could make sense for both sides.


The BPA at 6 may very well be Randle, who is a terrible fit for Boston, but who could look great next to Embiid. 

Meanwhile the Celtics get a rim protector who could work nicely next to Sullinger or KO, and at #10 a player like McDermott, Saric, Gordon, or Harris will be available to add some talent on the wing, which the Celtics really need.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 07:47:09 AM »

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Philly is slotted at 3 and there's a good chance Embiid is the guy available at that spot.  Does that make Noel available, as he plays the same position?  What would it take to acquire him?

This could be an interesting avenue to go if trading for a star (Love) is not an option.

A move like #6 for Noel + #10 could make sense for both sides.

Finally ...a good idea

Danny are you listening.

This club needs a cornerstone player or center

Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 07:52:23 AM »

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Would be very on board with this.

Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 08:10:43 AM »

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I've been saying this for the past couple months Noel and Philly could be a perfect trading partner depending on where the ping pong balls bounce.  If they draft Embiid there is a lot of trading flexibility here.  Something like our 6th pick and another piece or 2 for Noel and their 10th pick(maybe draft McDermott there).

Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 08:19:29 AM »

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I doubt they are trading Noel and 10 for 6.  If they get Embiid I could certainly see them moving Noel for Randle (though Noel might very well be better than Randle, just not a better fit), but they aren't giving up 10 in the process.  Will not happen.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 08:21:45 AM »

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I doubt they are trading Noel and 10 for 6.  If they get Embiid I could certainly see them moving Noel for Randle (though Noel might very well be better than Randle, just not a better fit), but they aren't giving up 10 in the process.  Will not happen.

I'd absolutely love #6 for Noel and #10 as I see little difference in the prospects 5-12.

But I tend to agree with the above. Doubt that happens.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 08:30:48 AM »

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I doubt they are trading Noel and 10 for 6.  If they get Embiid I could certainly see them moving Noel for Randle (though Noel might very well be better than Randle, just not a better fit), but they aren't giving up 10 in the process.  Will not happen.

Maybe so.  I'd consider moving other assets for Noel, in that case.  But I wouldn't trade the #6 for him if I wasn't getting a top 10 pick back.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 08:35:09 AM »

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I doubt they are trading Noel and 10 for 6.  If they get Embiid I could certainly see them moving Noel for Randle (though Noel might very well be better than Randle, just not a better fit), but they aren't giving up 10 in the process.  Will not happen.

Maybe so.  I'd consider moving other assets for Noel, in that case.  But I wouldn't trade the #6 for him if I wasn't getting a top 10 pick back.
I probably would, the way I figure it, if Noel was in this draft (and healthy) he would be a top 5 pick.  The reason he dropped last year was his health otherwise he would have gone #1 last year.  You would certainly need to examine his knee, but if he checked out physically and there wasn't much risk of recurrence, then I'd probably move #6 for Noel, I would of course ask for more since Noel was the #6 pick in a weaker draft, but Philly won't move 10 in that trade, nor should they without getting a lot more back than just 6.  Maybe something like 6, 17, and the Clippers pick (or Philly's pick back) for Noel and 10.  Now that is something I think would make sense for both teams.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 08:43:09 AM »

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I doubt they are trading Noel and 10 for 6.  If they get Embiid I could certainly see them moving Noel for Randle (though Noel might very well be better than Randle, just not a better fit), but they aren't giving up 10 in the process.  Will not happen.

Maybe so.  I'd consider moving other assets for Noel, in that case.  But I wouldn't trade the #6 for him if I wasn't getting a top 10 pick back.
I probably would, the way I figure it, if Noel was in this draft (and healthy) he would be a top 5 pick.  The reason he dropped last year was his health otherwise he would have gone #1 last year.  You would certainly need to examine his knee, but if he checked out physically and there wasn't much risk of recurrence, then I'd probably move #6 for Noel, I would of course ask for more since Noel was the #6 pick in a weaker draft, but Philly won't move 10 in that trade, nor should they without getting a lot more back than just 6.  Maybe something like 6, 17, and the Clippers pick (or Philly's pick back) for Noel and 10.  Now that is something I think would make sense for both teams.

I'd consider 6 and 17 for Noel and 10.  Not throwing in another 1st on top of that, though.  I suppose they can have the rights to those 2nd rounders back.

I'm not so sure Noel would go that high in this draft.  Nobody knows how much he's lost due to the knee injury and time off.  Plus, he was never a particularly impressive offensive player.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 08:47:42 AM »

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I think that the 6ers would be completely thrilled to start Noel at PF and Embiid at C. Their games aren't redundant.

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I think that the 6ers would be completely thrilled to start Noel at PF and Embiid at C. Their games aren't redundant.
Starting 2 players in the frontcourt who can't shoot is death to your NBA offense. Has been for over 20 years. Its even more fatal now, now you need one of them to be able to shoot 3s.

Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 08:51:07 AM »

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I think Embiid is gone before 3.

I'm not sure about Noel. If it was just the 6th pick I'd consider it but the fact that he never came back this year worries me.

Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 08:52:34 AM »

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I think that the 6ers would be completely thrilled to start Noel at PF and Embiid at C. Their games aren't redundant.
Starting 2 players in the frontcourt who can't shoot is death to your NBA offense. Has been for over 20 years. Its even more fatal now, now you need one of them to be able to shoot 3s.

Yeah.  I don't think it would make sense.  Embiid is a true center, and you're wasting Noel if you play him at the 4 next to a true center. 

Lots of rim protection, but neither really covers the perimeter, and neither has a jumpshot.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 08:59:24 AM »

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I think Embiid is gone before 3.

I'm not sure about Noel. If it was just the 6th pick I'd consider it but the fact that he never came back this year worries me.

I'm pretty sure he never came back this year because Philly had no interest in putting him out there toward the end of the season when they were just playing out the string.  On most teams I think he would've played.
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Re: Trade for Nerlens Noel
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 09:02:09 AM »

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I think Embiid is gone before 3.

I'm not sure about Noel. If it was just the 6th pick I'd consider it but the fact that he never came back this year worries me.

Agreed. If Cleveland doesn't snag him, Bucks surely will.  That makes Sanders more expendable; that is the trade that we should be speculating about. A lot more feasible than Noel.