Trade for Nerlens Noel

[Rondo9]

The Celtics have Rondo......

[Tr1boy]

can't see it happening.  Imo they rather keep both in case one is a no show due to injury. Also you can pair them in the future. That would be a scary front court

Noel is a future pf in the nba. It will take him an eternity to bulk up to handle centers.

[BigAlTheFuture]

The Celtics have Rondo......

Rondo is not a franchise player and does not have the potential to be one.

[fitzhickey]

The reigning rookie of the year and 2 probable contenders for the next is a nice core

[Celtics18]

Not happening.  They'll get Parker 3rd and have a sick trio heading forward of Noel, Parker and MCW.  '

Be jelly.  They should have a very bright future in Philly.  Tankin done right.

And the Celtics are an example of tanking gone wrong?

Not wrong.  But Philly's future could be pretty special.  Ours could too, maybe.  They have 2 potential franchise players though... and we have none..

Are your referring to Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel?  The grass sure is greener over there. 

[gpap]

Not sure why there's so much interest in Nerlens Noel, but I wouldn't touch him.

Looks injury prone, didn't play a single game last year and is way too skinny for his position.

[Moranis]

Not happening.  They'll get Parker 3rd and have a sick trio heading forward of Noel, Parker and MCW.  '

Be jelly.  They should have a very bright future in Philly.  Tankin done right.

And the Celtics are an example of tanking gone wrong?

Not wrong.  But Philly's future could be pretty special.  Ours could too, maybe.  They have 2 potential franchise players though... and we have none..

Are your referring to Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel?  The grass sure is greener over there.

They also have the 10th pick.  I mean Noel, LaVine, Parker and Carter-Williams is a pretty nice core.  Or maybe instead of Lavine they go Harris and fill the SG slot or maybe Gordon slips to them (like draftexpress thinks - of course they also have Embiid falling to them).  That doesn't even count Thad Young, Tony Wroten, James Anderson or Henry Sims all of which are 25 and younger.  Philly did a pretty solid job of getting talent to their team.  They now just have to get it to develop and work as a cohesive unit.  That certainly won't be easy, but Philly has a real chance to become an OKC type team.

[fandrew]

I think that the 6ers would be completely thrilled to start Noel at PF and Embiid at C. Their games aren't redundant.

Starting 2 players in the frontcourt who can't shoot is death to your NBA offense. Has been for over 20 years. Its even more fatal now, now you need one of them to be able to shoot 3s.

Yeah.  I don't think it would make sense.  Embiid is a true center, and you're wasting Noel if you play him at the 4 next to a true center. 

Lots of rim protection, but neither really covers the perimeter, and neither has a jumpshot.

Noel is extremely quick, and both are amazing at closing on perimeter shooters. I think defensively the combination could be devastating.

On offense, though, you have a point. Noel didn't have an offensive game of any kind aside from transition, rolling to the basket, and put-backs. Embiid has a post game and the beginning of a usable mid-range shot. You're right to point out that defenses would sag off of Noel and crowd the post.

See, I just think having two similar players has never worked: Jefferson/Milsap? Failure. Monroe/Drummond? Failure. Steve Francis/Stephon Marbury? Failure. ...I guess it worked once with David Robinson/Tim Duncan. ...but don't forget that Robinson was the consummate veteran professional: "the Admiral." Roles were very clear in Duncan's first year.

These guys are all rookie types.

Embiid and Noel together would be a big mistake in my opinion. However, if Embiid drops to three, the Sixers MUST take him. So I see this trade making a lot of sense. I disagree with Who that getting the number 10 as well would be anything like robbery, but agree that perhaps an asset going the other way would be appropriate. Jerryd Bayless, Avery Bradley, Joel Anthony, and Brandon Bass are all veterans who could help a developing Philadelphia squad. They make the same kind of money as Noel.

This is one of those trades that I want to call the Celtics front office to suggest.

Robinson/Duncan worked because they actually had very wide arsenals. Both had strong post games and both had outside shots. When one was in the post the other was able to be on the outside (though stretch 4's were not around as much at the time). Their games, and their winning mind sets made them perfect teammates. Defensively, with them you had a strong side blocker and a weak side blocker to protect the rim. Problems arise when two players have very similar games but not enough variations in their games to do different things at necessary times.

[Celtics18]

The Celtics have Rondo......

Rondo is not a franchise player and does not have the potential to be one.

But Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel do? 

[BigAlTheFuture]

The Celtics have Rondo......

Rondo is not a franchise player and does not have the potential to be one.

But Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel do?

Never said they did.

[BballTim]

Not happening.  They'll get Parker 3rd and have a sick trio heading forward of Noel, Parker and MCW.  '

Be jelly.  They should have a very bright future in Philly.  Tankin done right.

And the Celtics are an example of tanking gone wrong?

Not wrong.  But Philly's future could be pretty special.  Ours could too, maybe.  They have 2 potential franchise players though... and we have none..

   Is anyone else old enough to remember when the term "franchise player" actually meant something?

[Celtics18]

The Celtics have Rondo......

Rondo is not a franchise player and does not have the potential to be one.

But Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel do?

Never said they did.

The comment by Rondo9 was in response to a post claiming that the Sixers have two potential franchise players.  I know you aren't the one who made that claim, though. 

[BballTim]

Not happening.  They'll get Parker 3rd and have a sick trio heading forward of Noel, Parker and MCW.  '

Be jelly.  They should have a very bright future in Philly.  Tankin done right.

And the Celtics are an example of tanking gone wrong?

Not wrong.  But Philly's future could be pretty special.  Ours could too, maybe.  They have 2 potential franchise players though... and we have none..

Are your referring to Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel?  The grass sure is greener over there.

They also have the 10th pick.  I mean Noel, LaVine, Parker and Carter-Williams is a pretty nice core.  Or maybe instead of Lavine they go Harris and fill the SG slot or maybe Gordon slips to them (like draftexpress thinks - of course they also have Embiid falling to them).  That doesn't even count Thad Young, Tony Wroten, James Anderson or Henry Sims all of which are 25 and younger.  Philly did a pretty solid job of getting talent to their team.  They now just have to get it to develop and work as a cohesive unit.  That certainly won't be easy, but Philly has a real chance to become an OKC type team.

  Who's their Durant? Because you need one to be an OKC type team.

[Moranis]

Not happening.  They'll get Parker 3rd and have a sick trio heading forward of Noel, Parker and MCW.  '

Be jelly.  They should have a very bright future in Philly.  Tankin done right.

And the Celtics are an example of tanking gone wrong?

Not wrong.  But Philly's future could be pretty special.  Ours could too, maybe.  They have 2 potential franchise players though... and we have none..

Are your referring to Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel?  The grass sure is greener over there.

They also have the 10th pick.  I mean Noel, LaVine, Parker and Carter-Williams is a pretty nice core.  Or maybe instead of Lavine they go Harris and fill the SG slot or maybe Gordon slips to them (like draftexpress thinks - of course they also have Embiid falling to them).  That doesn't even count Thad Young, Tony Wroten, James Anderson or Henry Sims all of which are 25 and younger.  Philly did a pretty solid job of getting talent to their team.  They now just have to get it to develop and work as a cohesive unit.  That certainly won't be easy, but Philly has a real chance to become an OKC type team.

  Who's their Durant? Because you need one to be an OKC type team.

I'd go with Parker.

[LarBrd33]

The Celtics have Rondo......

Rondo is not a franchise player and does not have the potential to be one.

But Michael Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel do?

Never said they did.

The comment by Rondo9 was in response to a post claiming that the Sixers have two potential franchise players.  I know you aren't the one who made that claim, though.

I made the original comment.  I guess I have to spell it out.  Nerlens Noel and Jabari Parker are both potential franchise players. Those are elite prospects.  Noel's got Anthony Davis potential. Parker has Carmelo Anthony potential. I wasn't even referring to MKW who for all we know will be a rich man's Rajon rondo.  The future in Philly is brighter than the sun ... in theory at least.

Point is that there is no point to them trading us noel... As much as we all would love that, it's a silly idea.  Healthy Noel goes top 5 in this loaded draft. I think philly is plenty content to ride into next season with two ROY candidates and the reigning 2013 ROY.   Might as well be asking Philly to trade us their #3 pick.