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Pick for Love?

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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #225 on: May 21, 2014, 04:58:33 PM »

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Or, you know, he might not see the world through green-tinted glasses.
Probably both, he was on a podcast with matt moore where the both seemed to think that the Bulls potential offer for Love was worth more than anything Boston has.

That same podcast he joked about not wanting to fake negotiate a trade. Then he naturally wrote that column and engaged with Jeff about it. The whole thing is a joke meant to get clicks.

Moore really does hate the C's though, and Ainge in particular. How dare Ainge not tell the reporters the truth. I cackled a bit when I saw the Grizzlies situation was imploding badly on the front office end.

Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #226 on: May 21, 2014, 05:01:12 PM »

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Look at the Kevin Love Trade/Free Agency Thread on RealGM. I'd say the majority of posters are in favor of a Sullinger/6/+ combo over any others. The GSW (Lee/Barnes/Thompson) and CHI (Mirotic/Butler/Gibson) offers perk some interest, but both GSW and CHI have said they won't include Thompson and Gibson respectively in any offers for Love.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1283310

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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #227 on: May 21, 2014, 05:04:25 PM »

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I have almost completely convinced myself that I would do a trade without the commitment from him to resign. I am almost completely convinced that after seeing the Garden, meeting Russell, seeing the banners, throwing out a pitch at Fenway, hearing the crowd cheer for him on Opening Night, and having Rondo feed him about 500 passes that lead to easy buckets - he will want to stay. Get him, pair him with Asik, resign Bradley, and see what happens.
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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #228 on: May 21, 2014, 05:10:00 PM »

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I have almost completely convinced myself that I would do a trade without the commitment from him to resign. I am almost completely convinced that after seeing the Garden, meeting Russell, seeing the banners, throwing out a pitch at Fenway, hearing the crowd cheer for him on Opening Night, and having Rondo feed him about 500 passes that lead to easy buckets - he will want to stay. Get him, pair him with Asik, resign Bradley, and see what happens.

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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #229 on: May 21, 2014, 05:14:28 PM »

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I have almost completely convinced myself that I would do a trade without the commitment from him to resign. I am almost completely convinced that after seeing the Garden, meeting Russell, seeing the banners, throwing out a pitch at Fenway, hearing the crowd cheer for him on Opening Night, and having Rondo feed him about 500 passes that lead to easy buckets - he will want to stay. Get him, pair him with Asik, resign Bradley, and see what happens.

Then we get outbid for Asik and have to trot out Rondo / Bradley / Green / Love / Vitor.  Then we just miss the playoffs, then he signs to LA and we lost our top pick, probably other picks, Sully and Love to placate our neediest fans for one year.  Not trying to be negative, but he's not worth getting unless we pay fair value and/or he agrees to resign.

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« Reply #230 on: May 21, 2014, 05:15:40 PM »

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Actually, I think he might be wearing his Timberwolf glasses.  His trade suggestion for Cleveland involves them giving up Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, and the #1 pick.  That's just laughable.  He doesn't seem to realize that Love is threatening to opt out next season.
If you think this means the Wolves are planning to give him away, you're probably wrong.
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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #231 on: May 21, 2014, 05:18:14 PM »

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I have almost completely convinced myself that I would do a trade without the commitment from him to resign. I am almost completely convinced that after seeing the Garden, meeting Russell, seeing the banners, throwing out a pitch at Fenway, hearing the crowd cheer for him on Opening Night, and having Rondo feed him about 500 passes that lead to easy buckets - he will want to stay. Get him, pair him with Asik, resign Bradley, and see what happens.

Then we get outbid for Asik

Even assuming that's possible (I don't see how), then Ainge figures out another way to use the TPE to land a center. Gortat, Okafor, another big man, whatever.
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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #232 on: May 21, 2014, 05:21:46 PM »

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I have almost completely convinced myself that I would do a trade without the commitment from him to resign. I am almost completely convinced that after seeing the Garden, meeting Russell, seeing the banners, throwing out a pitch at Fenway, hearing the crowd cheer for him on Opening Night, and having Rondo feed him about 500 passes that lead to easy buckets - he will want to stay. Get him, pair him with Asik, resign Bradley, and see what happens.

Then we get outbid for Asik and have to trot out Rondo / Bradley / Green / Love / Vitor.  Then we just miss the playoffs, then he signs to LA and we lost our top pick, probably other picks, Sully and Love to placate our neediest fans for one year.  Not trying to be negative, but he's not worth getting unless we pay fair value and/or he agrees to resign.

That is one way to look at it...

Or you could say that we nearly had Asik at the deadline, but didn't pull the trigger. The groundwork that DA spoke of was in regards to Ron Adam's favorite defensive big man. The man who if given 30 minutes regularly is a walking 12-12-2 blocks. They want cap space to go after Melo or Love. Use the TPE plus a future pick and get it done. Asik can mentor and cover Love in the post. Green and Bradley can roam/snipe on the perimeter. Rondo will lead/orchestrate. This team will make the playoffs (something Love has never tasted - have you been to a Cs playoff game? They are electric - tell me Love wouldn't enjoy that).
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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #233 on: May 21, 2014, 05:32:24 PM »

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Mirotic plays for Real Madrid, there not exactly poor, for the wolves to sign him woulddn't excatly be easy, they have to overpay i can easily see the wolves preffering getting olynyk or sully would scheduled to make 1-2 mill than to getting mirotic and having to pay least 5+ mill

Also i rather the 6th pick than butler, plus with the bogans contract and our pierce tpe we have more ability to take on money. I think ainge has the better hand than paxson, talent wise it may be close, but factor in finances and salary cap flexibilty i think ainge has the edge, we jhave the cheaper talent and the greater capacity to take on money.

Think the writer lack knowledge of the nba salary cap and nba contracts.   


Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #234 on: May 21, 2014, 05:51:03 PM »

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Actually, I think he might be wearing his Timberwolf glasses.  His trade suggestion for Cleveland involves them giving up Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, and the #1 pick.  That's just laughable.  He doesn't seem to realize that Love is threatening to opt out next season.
If you think this means the Wolves are planning to give him away, you're probably wrong.

I'm not suggesting the Wolves will give him away, but asking for the 23 year old 2011 #4 pick and the 22 year old 2012 #4 pick (both of whom have played well
 and the #1 this year for a disgruntled player who insists he's leaving is completely over the top. 

Remember what Denver got for Carmelo who was in a similar situation, albeit it was during the season.  Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danillo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov. two second round picks and a future first.  Of course that first rounder was certainly not expected to be a lottery pick at that time.

That is nowhere near the value this writer is suggesting for Love.  This years #1 pick will either be Embiid or Wiggins, two of the most highly rated prospects in the past decade.  I could see that pick alone for Love, but to expect Thompson and Waiters to be included as well is a bit silly.  The writer is a Timberwolves fan and it shows.

Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #235 on: May 21, 2014, 06:03:51 PM »

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Look at the Kevin Love Trade/Free Agency Thread on RealGM. I'd say the majority of posters are in favor of a Sullinger/6/+ combo over any others. The GSW (Lee/Barnes/Thompson) and CHI (Mirotic/Butler/Gibson) offers perk some interest, but both GSW and CHI have said they won't include Thompson and Gibson respectively in any offers for Love.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1283310

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Been over there a lot myself and saw the same thing.  They favor the Celtics package and they're really down on David Lee.

Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #236 on: May 21, 2014, 08:21:17 PM »

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Ibaka, lamb, jones, trade exception and 2 first rounders for love and budinger could make sense for both Minnesota and okc.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lc92tpw

It works. That's really interesting. Love would extend in okc. And he's a big unlike harden, another perimeter player, so it makes sense to give him big money.


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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #237 on: May 21, 2014, 08:23:25 PM »

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Ibaka, lamb, jones, trade exception and 2 first rounders for love and budinger could make sense for both Minnesota and okc.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lc92tpw

It works. That's really interesting. Love would extend in okc. And he's a big unlike harden, another perimeter player, so it makes sense to give him big money.

OKC better hope they average 125 points/game with that line up.

I don't think Love makes a ton of sense for OKC.
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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #238 on: May 21, 2014, 08:29:40 PM »

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Ibaka, lamb, jones, trade exception and 2 first rounders for love and budinger could make sense for both Minnesota and okc.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lc92tpw

It works. That's really interesting. Love would extend in okc. And he's a big unlike harden, another perimeter player, so it makes sense to give him big money.

OKC better hope they average 125 points/game with that line up.

I don't think Love makes a ton of sense for OKC.

Why?

They need more guys who can balance the lineup from a scoring standpoint. Still have perk at the five and his expiring can be flipped. Adams is promising. Durant love and Russell? Pick your poison.


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Re: Trade for Love ideas (merged)
« Reply #239 on: May 21, 2014, 08:36:32 PM »

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Was wondering what happened to all the Love talk. Did falling to #6 really kill everyone's belief that something could get done? I don't understand. A top three pick in this draft should be kept; anything else is expendable, in my eyes.

This was a fun read. Some are serious, others are not (by necessity).

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/68391/gift-of-love-29-trades-for-29-teams

He has the Celtics giving up the farm it seems.

While at the same time knocking both Sullinger and Olynyk in the process.

What a jerk...

Wow, that guy just absolutely killed Sully and Oly.

"There?s no reason to pretend Olynyk and Sullinger would be pieces for the Wolves at all. Being a Wolves fan since they've come into the NBA, I am pretty good at recognizing overvalued first-round picks who won?t be as good as you hope they are."

Ouch!  He must be bitter that the Celtics stole KG and now are about to steal Love.

Or, you know, he might not see the world through green-tinted glasses.

  Judging by the few comments I read he's not seeing much of anything.