Trade for Love ideas (merged)

[Hawkeye199]

The greatest thing about love is what he represents if we get him. we would have two ALL-stars. That is not going to win the championship. However a lot of stars like Durant,wade,irving and Lebron are free agents. we would have a lot of cap room with the old veterans leaving after there contracts. So we can attract a third star. With Rondo,Love ( free agent star) we can be great. we have a lot of support coming from the draft. Not to mention a great 6th man in avery bradley if we resign him. The celtics could have a Very bright future if we get Love without trading away all our draft picks for him.

[Celtics18]

Lakers are 100% assured of getting a top 3 pick because they are the most famous franchise in the NBA. The Celtics have more titles but in terms of prestige to players and fans they are below the Lakers Knicks and Miami (yes Miami while LeBron is there at least) and on par with others. Why I mention this is because of one simple fact. Kevin Love, a home grown kid from LA wants to play for the Lakers and is a year away from Free Agency. I'll say this again...Kevin Love wants to play for the Lakers (maybe the Knicks too) and is a year away from Free Agency. What would possess any of you to be on board with a Love deal that would give Minnesota our future superstar for one year of Kevin Love!!!

I've watched a lot of Sota games. He really isn't as good as his stat line shows night in and night out. His compete level is laughable and he plays like a Laker. Fans that like Kevin Love will turn on him once he comes in shows lack of hustle.

Literally nothing accurate in this post - at all.

Curious how you think a player becomes an elite scorer and rebounder and doesn't hustle?

This post is a TOTAL and wild mischaracterization of Love's ability, and an assumption-laden post contradicted by Love's own words about his intentions.

Ah, the beautiful irony.

[gpap]

I'd be a little upset to trade a top-5 pick for Love when we didn't for KG.

Celts were more than willing to deal their 2007 1st rounder on draft night to get KG.

It didn't happen because KG originally didn't want to come to Boston, so they dealt the pick instead for Ray Allen.

[nacceltic]

A few things that have been driving me crazy, while reading this thread, that I'd love to put to bed...

1) Danny Ainge is NOT dealing a single asset for Kevin Love, unless Love agrees to an extension...History leads you to the answer: KG had to sign an extension, Love will have to sign an extension. I don't believe there is a single scenario that involves the Celts dealing for Love without a deal being agreed upon beforehand.

2) Kevin Love is not thee answer, but he's a big time step towards thee answer...Kevin Love is a top-10 to 15 player in the league (closer to the former than latter IMO)...You don't get the opportunity to land someone of that ilk very often.  But, again, it is NOT a case of Love = Championship.

3) Ainge is going to have to give up a number of tantalizing assets to make this deal happen...For anyone who is hoping Gerald Wallace and a couple of draft picks is going to make it happen, think again.  If Minnesota doesn't get what it wants, they'll wait until the deadline in February, when teams that are in contention are willing to give their vital organs for a top player.

4) The people who continue to post that Love isn't that good and that he's just taking advantage of being on a bad team...Did a single one of you feel the same way when Paul Pierce was an All-Star on a terrible team?  Or, no, because it was the Celtics!  As a matter of fact, it could be argued that it's more impressive what Love has done, because he's the only guy on that team that you need to game plan for. Yet, he's still going for 26 & 12....

All of that said, I'd wait and see where the C's land on Tuesday night and make my call on draft night...The only player in the top-3 that I think is someone who would be worth keeping instead of Love, is Embiid....The probability of finding a scoring wing is much higher than a 7-foot rim protecting big who has a ton of potential offensively, as well.

If Embiid's back checks out and he's there on draft night, no thanks Minnesota...If Embiid is off the board, then I'm calling Flip.  Let's not forget, Love is only 25...Guy still hasn't reached his prime.  The most you should reasonably expect from the kids in this draft class is to have an impact similar to Love. The difference? Love is already established. You know what you are getting.

[JBcat]

We have lots if different packages we could offer for Love, and we may not need to offer our top pick for him. Like the KG deal we could have the deal centered around Sully like big Al was.  We could add on the 17th pick this year, our pick next year, the Clippers pick and Philly's pick next year.  Throw in Bass and Bogan's contract to match the salaries.  That gives the Wolves a great prospect in Sully, up to 4 1st round picks within the next 2 years, and they could turn around and trade off Bass to a contender.

If We end up with the 5th pick or lower we could do a Ray Allen like deal, or if it's a top 4 pick just keep it. 

It's not even beginning to get into other assets S&T Bradley, Green, KO, trade exception, and we might be able to hold on BKN 2016 pick, 2017 swap option with BKN, and 2018 BKN pick.

Can't wait for the offseason to start.

[BballTim]

So the Celtics build a new big 3 for a year with Melo (most overrated player in the NBA) and Kevin Love (2nd most overrated player in the NBA) and Rondo (3rd most overrated). This should go over real well by January. Plus these guys have been out of college for so long I doubt they would respect Stevens. I want blue collar players on this team. I want young and exciting talent. We've seen the best of Melo and Love. I want to see the best of Embiid Parker Wiggins and Exum

So do you think that a hypothetical lineup of Rondo/Sully/Green(Embiid/Parker/Wiggins/Exum), while young and exciting - would win many games?

Say we get Wiggins...and perhaps Danny gets Asik.

So we'd have (under your plan):

Rondo
Wiggins/Parker
Green
Sully
Asik?

That team would make the playoffs, but that's it...with extreme luck maybe 2nd round.

If we're fortunate enough to land KLove (and Melo), I'd be VERY happy. We can win those three.

The NBA is a Superstar League...only exceptions to this is San Antonio....I have no earthly idea how Spurs do it.

Carmelo Anthony had perhaps his best year ever....shot efficiently from deep and the field...rebounded more...passed more...and kept his mouth shut for the most part. He put his head down and went to work every night. My perception of Melo has changed after last season.

I really believe Melo gets it, now.

KLove? Man has been an All-Star as well...my only knock is his lack of defense, but that would get better in BOS, with Rondo leading the team.

IMO, Rondo-KLove-maybe Melo? Places us in contention status...if we can get Asik? Even better.

Those young players in BOS that you mentioned would be entertaining, but Boston is Title Town. We need Stars to win titles.

Getting KLove could perhaps be that 1st shoe to drop.

I already proved earlier in this thread that Love isn't that bad on defense, and I agree about Melo... Melo eerily reminds me of Paul Pierce in '07... Does everyone forget how much crying and bickering he had with refs, and the constant struggles of leading a team by himself? After Walker was traded, Pierce was extremely upset, and felt he wasn't going to win anything.

As for the Spurs, don't get it twisted, but I think Leonard/Duncan/Ginobli/Parker is all you need imo... When you have one of the best coaches in the NBA... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Good post.

I feel like I'm reliving 2005 and 2006 here. People were convinced across the Celtic Internet that a title was imminent with the ghastly collection of scrubs we put on the floor.

Telfair was Cousy, Delonte West was DJ, Ryan Gomes was Loscutoff ... The insanity went on and on.

  That's quite a story. I doubt that there was a single poster on these boards that thought a title was imminent, or that the cast we put on the court was a group of stars. It's not that people didn't want the trades because they thought they'd be title contenders with the current roster, they didn't want the trades because they didn't think they'd win a title with the new roster.

[celticpride1]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ln7dz88

This trade gets you Asik and Love I think Houston will be more than willing to almost give Asik away with that contract but will see.

[Tr1boy]

1. To Wolves:2014 1st (high pick), 2016 1st, Sullinger, Wallace
To Celtics: Love

2. To Wolves: Lee, Barnes, Thompson
To GSW: Shved, Love

3. To Wolves: 2014 1st, 2016 1st, Terrence Jones, Chandler Parsons (signed)
To Rockets: Love

4. To Wolves: 2014 14th and 18th picks, Gerald Green, Alex Len, Bledsoe (signed)
To Suns: Love

5. To Wolves: 2014 16th and 19th picks, future 1st, Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson
To Bulls: Love

6. To Wolves: 2014 1st (high pick), 2016 first, Steve Nash, Nick Young (signed),  Jodie Meeks (signed)
To Lakers: Love

[D.o.s.]

Out of those options, I take the Celtics deal -- but not before asking for at least the Clippers + Brooklyn's picks from Ainge's box of treasures before settling for second rounders.

Why not do something similar for Chicago, the Lakers and the Suns?

[Tr1boy]

Out of those options, I take the Celtics deal -- but not before asking for at least the Clippers + Brooklyn's picks from Ainge's box of treasures before settling for second rounders.

Why not do something similar for Chicago, the Lakers and the Suns?

Fine. Per your request, i modified my orginal post

[banner 18]

Things would have to go perfectly but what if we used hondo birds trade to get love. Then if our lotto pick was top 3 we Could go and get embiid if he fell to us. We wouldn't need Asik. Next try and sign carmelo by using some of our picks to clear out cap space. That would be a true contender!total pipe dream though

[More Banners]

I take the houston deal.  Wallace is just a deal killer that would cost two picks on its own to move.

[playdream]

I take the Lakers > celtics >Bulls
High picks are valuable and Laker 2016 can be high picks also
I don't want bunch of scrubs that will put me in medicority but rather gamble on picks to land
the next star to build around

[BigAlTheFuture]

It's the Warriors. Lakers have the least to offer

[guava_wrench]

It is a bit ludicrous to talk about Iverson making anything more then the rookie minimum considering he hasn't even been able to make the league yet.