Trade for Love ideas (merged)

[RJ87]

Considering their contracts, health and age... Rondo and Rubio is a wash.

  Hilarious.

Per-36
10.7 points, 9.6 assists, 4.7 rebounds, 2.6 steals, 38%/33%/80%
12.6 points, 10.6 assists, 5.1 rebounds, 1.4 steals, 40%/29%/63%

Rubio is 5 years younger, still on his rookie contract and not coming off major surgery. 

You'd give Rondo the edge, but it's pretty close.  Would Minny trade Rubio straight-up for Rondo ?  Probably not.

Would Minny trade Rubio + Love + a pick for Rondo... Heck no.

You do know Rubio has also torn an ACL?

[BballTim]

In a one-for-one, Rondo has the better track record. Last season, not so much.

If Love is coming with Rubio, and Rondo et al. and picks are going out ... bye, Rondo. Enjoy the cold.

  It's probably true that we'd be better with Love and Rubio, but we'd be significantly better with Rondo and Love. I suppose it depends on whether your goal is to be as good as the current TWolves or better than that.

[RJ87]

In a one-for-one, Rondo has the better track record. Last season, not so much.

If Love is coming with Rubio, and Rondo et al. and picks are going out ... bye, Rondo. Enjoy the cold.

Except it makes zero sense for Minnesota. Really, none. They fear losing Love to free agency for nothing, so take back Rondo... who could also walk away from Minny in the same amount time and leave them with nothing. And they lose Rubio too? That's a disaster of a trade for them.

Take off your anti-Rondo goggles for a second. Flip Saunders is somewhat competent, why would this trade appeal to Minny at all?

[Vox_Populi]

In a one-for-one, Rondo has the better track record. Last season, not so much.

If Love is coming with Rubio, and Rondo et al. and picks are going out ... bye, Rondo. Enjoy the cold.

  It's probably true that we'd be better with Love and Rubio, but we'd be significantly better with Rondo and Love. I suppose it depends on whether your goal is to be as good as the current TWolves or better than that.

Being as good as the current Timberwolves might put us in the second round in the East. 

[jambr380]

If it is true that Rondo wouldn't accept a trade to Sacramento - a beautiful city with nice weather and sporting one of the best young big men in the league and his friend in Gay, then I don't see how he would ever consider Minnesota.

As for the deal - I think Sullinger would need to be included. Sully is a worse version of Love and Rubio is a worse version of Rondo.

Any deal that has Love coming our way really shouldn't include Rondo, though.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I'd like to have Love in Boston, but the thought of downgrading from Rondo to Rubio makes me ill.

[BballTim]

In a one-for-one, Rondo has the better track record. Last season, not so much.

If Love is coming with Rubio, and Rondo et al. and picks are going out ... bye, Rondo. Enjoy the cold.

  It's probably true that we'd be better with Love and Rubio, but we'd be significantly better with Rondo and Love. I suppose it depends on whether your goal is to be as good as the current TWolves or better than that.

Being as good as the current Timberwolves might put us in the second round in the East. 

  Unlikely. Playoffs, probably. Beyond that, not as likely.

[Vox_Populi]

In a one-for-one, Rondo has the better track record. Last season, not so much.

If Love is coming with Rubio, and Rondo et al. and picks are going out ... bye, Rondo. Enjoy the cold.

  It's probably true that we'd be better with Love and Rubio, but we'd be significantly better with Rondo and Love. I suppose it depends on whether your goal is to be as good as the current TWolves or better than that.

Being as good as the current Timberwolves might put us in the second round in the East. 

  Unlikely. Playoffs, probably. Beyond that, not as likely.

I don't know. I'd argue Minnesota could have gotten a top 4 seed in the East.

[oldtype]

If we're turning our nose up at players like Kevin Love because they aren't as good as KG, we'll be waiting a very long time for that next banner.

[D.o.s.]

If we're turning our nose up at players like Kevin Love because they aren't as good as KG, we'll be waiting a very long time for that next banner.

Kevin Love's not even as good as Rajon Rondo, let alone 2007 KG.

[fitzhickey]

If we're turning our nose up at players like Kevin Love because they aren't as good as KG, we'll be waiting a very long time for that next banner.

Kevin Love's not even as good as Rajon Rondo, let alone 2007 KG.

Hear hear!

[CoachBo]

In a one-for-one, Rondo has the better track record. Last season, not so much.

If Love is coming with Rubio, and Rondo et al. and picks are going out ... bye, Rondo. Enjoy the cold.

  It's probably true that we'd be better with Love and Rubio, but we'd be significantly better with Rondo and Love. I suppose it depends on whether your goal is to be as good as the current TWolves or better than that.

Being as good as the current Timberwolves might put us in the second round in the East. 

  Unlikely. Playoffs, probably. Beyond that, not as likely.

I don't know. I'd argue Minnesota could have gotten a top 4 seed in the East.

Pretty simple.

If I can get Love, I would not - under any circumstances - allow Rondo to go to free agency, like all of his family who post here want.

If he resigns for legitimate money - $15 million seems fair for his track record and a generally poor second half of 2014 - then let's resign him this summer.

If he demands free agency, or max money, adios. See if the Twolves will bite, and I'll take my chances with Rubio going forward.

Unfortunately for some of you, Ainge has a little more than your favorite player's best interests at heart. He's not stupid enough to acquire Love and then let Rondo go to free agency. Will. Not. Happen.

[oldtype]

If we're turning our nose up at players like Kevin Love because they aren't as good as KG, we'll be waiting a very long time for that next banner.

Kevin Love's not even as good as Rajon Rondo, let alone 2007 KG.

Building a winning team is a process. What you're advocating is that we refuse to get better at all until we get a 100% sure thing franchise player.

That's not how it works, especially given that 100% sure thing franchise players don't seem to exist in this league other than Lebron and Durant.

I doubt Rondo-Love instantly gets us a title but it puts us in a position to make some noise in the playoffs and be a move or two away from true contention. I fail to see how that's a bad thing.

[CoachBo]

If we're turning our nose up at players like Kevin Love because they aren't as good as KG, we'll be waiting a very long time for that next banner.

Kevin Love's not even as good as Rajon Rondo, let alone 2007 KG.

I'd give you a TP for a ten-minute horselaugh, except I do believe you're serious.

[CoachBo]

So the Celtics build a new big 3 for a year with Melo (most overrated player in the NBA) and Kevin Love (2nd most overrated player in the NBA) and Rondo (3rd most overrated). This should go over real well by January. Plus these guys have been out of college for so long I doubt they would respect Stevens. I want blue collar players on this team. I want young and exciting talent. We've seen the best of Melo and Love. I want to see the best of Embiid Parker Wiggins and Exum

So do you think that a hypothetical lineup of Rondo/Sully/Green(Embiid/Parker/Wiggins/Exum), while young and exciting - would win many games?

Say we get Wiggins...and perhaps Danny gets Asik.

So we'd have (under your plan):

Rondo
Wiggins/Parker
Green
Sully
Asik?

That team would make the playoffs, but that's it...with extreme luck maybe 2nd round.

If we're fortunate enough to land KLove (and Melo), I'd be VERY happy. We can win those three.

The NBA is a Superstar League...only exceptions to this is San Antonio....I have no earthly idea how Spurs do it.

Carmelo Anthony had perhaps his best year ever....shot efficiently from deep and the field...rebounded more...passed more...and kept his mouth shut for the most part. He put his head down and went to work every night. My perception of Melo has changed after last season.

I really believe Melo gets it, now.

KLove? Man has been an All-Star as well...my only knock is his lack of defense, but that would get better in BOS, with Rondo leading the team.

IMO, Rondo-KLove-maybe Melo? Places us in contention status...if we can get Asik? Even better.

Those young players in BOS that you mentioned would be entertaining, but Boston is Title Town. We need Stars to win titles.

Getting KLove could perhaps be that 1st shoe to drop.

I already proved earlier in this thread that Love isn't that bad on defense, and I agree about Melo... Melo eerily reminds me of Paul Pierce in '07... Does everyone forget how much crying and bickering he had with refs, and the constant struggles of leading a team by himself? After Walker was traded, Pierce was extremely upset, and felt he wasn't going to win anything.

As for the Spurs, don't get it twisted, but I think Leonard/Duncan/Ginobli/Parker is all you need imo... When you have one of the best coaches in the NBA... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Good post.

I feel like I'm reliving 2005 and 2006 here. People were convinced across the Celtic Internet that a title was imminent with the ghastly collection of scrubs we put on the floor.

Telfair was Cousy, Delonte West was DJ, Ryan Gomes was Loscutoff ... The insanity went on and on.

And then Ainge tracked down a couple of teams selling HOFers for pennies on the dollar, dumping his epic collection of flotsam on them. The anger here was palpable. Posters disappeared. Forever.

What the madness was, I cannot say. Some people do enjoy carving hunks of flesh out of their body, and many was the time I thought of them as posters rhapsodized about Tellfailure, Brandon Hunter, Allan Ray, Gomes, etc.

Although the Celtics hit rock bottom on the floor, at least the posts comparing Brandon Hunter to Paul Silas were honest, if madly ill-informed, comic relief. Kind of like one above today saying Rondo's better than Kevin Love. Talk about a time-warp trip back to 2005-6.

And, I do recall one poster here saying he enjoyed bad seasons more than good ones. There's a certain amount of masochism in the Celtics fan base, for sure.

Today, Ainge actually has some talent to move. Along with good draft picks. Along with contracts. And yet we have emotional calls to build from the draft - which no one does.

Amazing. I guess some people don't appreciate the Celtic tradition of excellence.