Giving up both our 2014 1st to grab Embiid. Yes or no?

[moiso]

If Embiid is the guy that Ainge has decided on, then it's a no brainer. 

[footey]

If Embiid's back checks out, would think Ainge would do it.

[wdleehi]

If they think he is going to be the next great NBA big man, then yes. 

[Moranis]

I said it before and I will say it again, I'm not trading Parker/Wiggins + our other pick for Embiid.  Too many concerns with Embiid for me to give up that haul.  Now Exum, Randle, etc. plus the later pick, then absolutely I do it. 

[chambers]

Provided that some team would actually trade the #1 pick, absolutely.

You swing for the home run. And with Wiggins, Parker or Embiid, thats going be a pretty close fence to get it over. Of course theres still a chance to miss, but with those three and their potential? We swing, and hard!

But the question is regarding embiid. Not parker or wiggins. Like I stated, I think danny rather keep green vs start over fresh at the sf spot

around deadline time the rumors were that he was trying to move Green badly, but no one wanted his contract under the new CBA.
There is no future success with Green on this team at 9 million- he will be moved eventually.
Can't see any success on this team with Avery Bradley at anything more than 3 or 4 million under this new CBA either.
He'll take either Embid with number 1, Wiggins or Parker. After that I am not sure- probably Exum but the top 3 are in another league.

[slamtheking]

If it's #5 and #18, I'd do it if he checks out.  If it's #3 or higher and #18, probably not.  whoever's left at #3 between Wiggins and Parker figures  to have just as good a career as Embiid and we could really use that #18 to grab someone else that would figure to improve this team.

#4 and #18 -- tough decision since it'd most likely be Exum and someone that would help us.  probably lean more towards doing it since Center is much more of a need than a PG we hope to use as a SG

[nostar]

If they think he is going to be the next great NBA big man, then yes.

If Embiid is the guy that Ainge has decided on, then it's a no brainer. 

If is such a silly word. "If Embiid is the next Olajuwon then sure!" "If Embiid comes with 3 more championship banners then sure!"

Right now it looks like Atlanta will make the playoffs and we won't have a "late lotto" pick. In that case I would seriously doubt any front office trades their choice of franchise changing player for #18 (actually draftexpress has us taking Warren at #18 who I really like). Also our lotto pick could very well fall out of the top 3. A bottom 3 finish only guarantees us a top 6 pick. And since the standings are fluid I have no idea where we will end up picking.

As to the question, yes I would trade the hypothetical top-3 pick and nonexistent #14 for Embiid. I don't think he's Olajuwon or TimmyD like some people but I think he's good. For my money he has a higher ceiling than either of his draft competitors and is likely to be a franchise player.

[nickagneta]

First...Its Nerlens not Nerlins

Second, any Enbiid speculation needs to be tempered until the doctors get a look at his medical records and see what was wrong with his back. If it was a severely strained muscle, that's one thing, if it was anything else, well, Sullinger and Noel fell like crazy because of injury. Embiid might as well.

Word will leak after the NBA doctors get a hold of Embiid. Let's see what comes of that.

In the mean time, no, I don't do the deal. I like Embiid less than Wiggins. It would be Wiggins I would trade up for.

[wdleehi]

If they think he is going to be the next great NBA big man, then yes.

If Embiid is the guy that Ainge has decided on, then it's a no brainer. 

If is such a silly word. "If Embiid is the next Olajuwon then sure!" "If Embiid comes with 3 more championship banners then sure!"

Right now it looks like Atlanta will make the playoffs and we won't have a "late lotto" pick. In that case I would seriously doubt any front office trades their choice of franchise changing player for #18 (actually draftexpress has us taking Warren at #18 who I really like). Also our lotto pick could very well fall out of the top 3. A bottom 3 finish only guarantees us a top 6 pick. And since the standings are fluid I have no idea where we will end up picking.

As to the question, yes I would trade the hypothetical top-3 pick and nonexistent #14 for Embiid. I don't think he's Olajuwon or TimmyD like some people but I think he's good. For my money he has a higher ceiling than either of his draft competitors and is likely to be a franchise player.

We are trying to answer a question about a player we do not know how Ainge and the Celtics rate as a potential player. 


All of this is a big "if".  Some poster are basing their if's based on how the rate and/or feel about the players.  Some poster are basing their if's on what they think the Celtics would do.  And some are basing it on the unknown raring of the player. 





This entire thread (much like most 'who gets drafted where' threads) is one gigantic collections of "ifs".

[nickagneta]

Right now it looks like Atlanta will make the playoffs and we won't have a "late lotto" pick.

We own Brooklyn's pick not Atlanta's pick no that Atlanta is below Brooklyn in the standings. We never had any shot at a late lotto pick.

[MikeJelly]

Man I feel like no one gives Exum enough credit. I honestly believe he could be incredible. Granted i understand this is against players in the Australian league but it looks like he has a quick first step, a decent jumper and a killer mentality. I would be thrilled if we got Exum and put him at SG.

[D.o.s.]

If they think he is going to be the next great NBA big man, then yes.

If Embiid is the guy that Ainge has decided on, then it's a no brainer. 

If is such a silly word. "If Embiid is the next Olajuwon then sure!" "If Embiid comes with 3 more championship banners then sure!"

Right now it looks like Atlanta will make the playoffs and we won't have a "late lotto" pick. In that case I would seriously doubt any front office trades their choice of franchise changing player for #18 (actually draftexpress has us taking Warren at #18 who I really like). Also our lotto pick could very well fall out of the top 3. A bottom 3 finish only guarantees us a top 6 pick. And since the standings are fluid I have no idea where we will end up picking.

As to the question, yes I would trade the hypothetical top-3 pick and nonexistent #14 for Embiid. I don't think he's Olajuwon or TimmyD like some people but I think he's good. For my money he has a higher ceiling than either of his draft competitors and is likely to be a franchise player.

We are trying to answer a question about a player we do not know how Ainge and the Celtics rate as a potential player. 


All of this is a big "if".  Some poster are basing their if's based on how the rate and/or feel about the players.  Some poster are basing their if's on what they think the Celtics would do.  And some are basing it on the unknown raring of the player. 





This entire thread (much like most 'who gets drafted where' threads) is one gigantic collections of "ifs".

Speak for yourself, Viceroy. I'm mainlining GM intel all day erry day.

[Tr1boy]

Lets look at it this way. Are parker or wiggins a once in a lifetime type talents? The answer is no right now. Danny is not overly impressed either.

Is embiid? The same answer. Plus his minor back issue concern. But he plays prob the most and rare position to try to fill. He is oozing with so much upside plus we really need a center, rim protector, post skills = bottom line, we really need him

I would take the risk and with an early 2nd pick if thats the trade get cleanthoney early for example in case green still stinks after embiid.

There is a very good chance early or another nice future sf can be picked up via fa or draft. Cant be said for a legit center. 2015 draft imo does not have great looking center prospects. Some of these guys have listed 7'1 -7'2 wingspan only. Picking fas like asik does not alot to help. Only guy I can see that can help is aldridge. But wjat are the chances we get him?

[D.o.s.]

Lets look at it this way. Are parker or wiggins a once in a lifetime type talents? The answer is no right now. Danny is not overly impressed either.

Is embiid? The same answer. Plus his minor back issue concern. But he plays prob the most and rare position to try to fill. He is oozing with so much upside plus we really need a center, rim protector, post skills = bottom line, we really need him

I would take the risk and with an early 2nd pick if thats the trade get cleanthoney early for example in case green still stinks after embiid.

There is a very good chance early or another nice future sf can be picked up via fa or draft. Cant be said for a legit center. 2015 draft imo does not have great looking center prospects. Some of these guys have listed 7'1 -7'2 wingspan only

 

[nickagneta]

Man I feel like no one gives Exum enough credit. I honestly believe he could be incredible. Granted i understand this is against players in the Australian league but it looks like he has a quick first step, a decent jumper and a killer mentality. I would be thrilled if we got Exum and put him at SG.

Just being intellectually honest, how many people on this blog have really seen enough of Exum to have a definitive informed opinion on the guy?

He is a huge, major unknown. There's been quite a few absolute foreign busts that have been selected in the top 10 over the last ten years. The kid could be special, he could be a bust(anyone can), but its a lot better to try to come to that decision based on being able to see him play versus like competition on a regular basis or have loads of game film on the kid.

Yes, there are a bunch or scouts and GMs who anonymously have been drooling over the kid but I have seen enough drafts to know that anonymous scouts and GMs do this every draft and are dead wrong.

My guess is Ainge has a bunch of film on the kid and has been sending international scouts to see him regularly, so Ainge will make his opinion with a lot more knowledge than we can. We will see.