Giving up both our 2014 1st to grab Embiid. Yes or no?

[Tr1boy]

Lets look at it this way. Are parker or wiggins a once in a lifetime type talents? The answer is no right now. Danny is not overly impressed either.

Is embiid? The same answer. Plus his minor back issue concern. But he plays prob the most and rare position to try to fill. He is oozing with so much upside plus we really need a center, rim protector, post skills = bottom line, we really need him

I would take the risk and with an early 2nd pick if thats the trade get cleanthoney early for example in case green still stinks after embiid.

There is a very good chance early or another nice future sf can be picked up via fa or draft. Cant be said for a legit center. 2015 draft imo does not have great looking center prospects. Some of these guys have listed 7'1 -7'2 wingspan only

 

None of the 2015 centers have the upside of embiid. Dont want a center who doesnt have at least a 7'4 wingspan

[D.o.s.]

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

[Moranis]

First...Its Nerlens not Nerlins

Second, any Enbiid speculation needs to be tempered until the doctors get a look at his medical records and see what was wrong with his back. If it was a severely strained muscle, that's one thing, if it was anything else, well, Sullinger and Noel fell like crazy because of injury. Embiid might as well.

Word will leak after the NBA doctors get a hold of Embiid. Let's see what comes of that.

In the mean time, no, I don't do the deal. I like Embiid less than Wiggins. It would be Wiggins I would trade up for.

I love the correction of Nerlen's name followed by an immediate misspelling of Embiid's name.  Classic stuff.

[Tr1boy]

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

As silly as you think, it matters. Also okafor while big is not really athletic or explosive  which doesnt help.

List me some exceptional centers in the nba that has 7'0 to 7'2 wingspan. Only one that I know is chandler but makes it up with his leaping ability.

[Moranis]

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

I agree on its face that is silly, but if you look at the great centers (even the second tier HOFers) they all had wing spans greater than 7'3".  Even a guy like Alonzo Mourning who was only 6'10" had a 7'4" wing span. 

[D.o.s.]

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

I agree on its face that is silly, but if you look at the great centers (even the second tier HOFers) they all had wing spans greater than 7'3".  Even a guy like Alonzo Mourning who was only 6'10" had a 7'4" wing span. 

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

As silly as you think, it matters. Also okafor while big is not really athletic or explosive  which doesnt help.

List me some exceptional centers in the nba that has 7'0 to 7'2 wingspan. Only one that I know is chandler but makes it up with his leaping ability.

Don't get me wrong , Okafor's most likely not going to be anything like the rim protector we need, I'm just saying that he's a great prospect.


Your argument TB16, is, essentially, the same as if I were to say 'Embiid's not a great prospect because he was born outside of the US, and only four foreign nationals have ever won the NBA MVP award'.


Also using your beloved DraftExpress, Bogut's got a 7'3 wingspan, and he's a great defensive player. A'mare's got a 7'1 wingspan, and if you don't think he played Center for the Suns, you never watched them. Noah's wingspan is 7'1. You already listed Chandler.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements.php?page=&year=All&source=All&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=5&sort=5

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Provided that some team would actually trade the #1 pick, absolutely.

You swing for the home run. And with Wiggins, Parker or Embiid, thats going be a pretty close fence to get it over. Of course theres still a chance to miss, but with those three and their potential? We swing, and hard!

But the question is regarding embiid. Not parker or wiggins. Like I stated, I think danny rather keep green vs start over fresh at the sf spot

Sorry, late reply.

Embiid is projected to be a great prospect, one who, when his potential is reached, could be a top 10 big man in the league. Has great physical tools and feel for the game and is actually really skilled.

Also, he will fill a big need. And what's more satisfying than getting a great prospect that fills up a position we desperately need the most?

There's a learning curve of course, and the back injury is a concern. But these are the kind of prospects "you swing for the fences" with. The reward here outweighs more than the risk. His ceiling is high, and worse comes to worst, he's an athletic 7 footer who can give you solid 20 minutes a game.

You go for it.

[nickagneta]

First...Its Nerlens not Nerlins

Second, any Enbiid speculation needs to be tempered until the doctors get a look at his medical records and see what was wrong with his back. If it was a severely strained muscle, that's one thing, if it was anything else, well, Sullinger and Noel fell like crazy because of injury. Embiid might as well.

Word will leak after the NBA doctors get a hold of Embiid. Let's see what comes of that.

In the mean time, no, I don't do the deal. I like Embiid less than Wiggins. It would be Wiggins I would trade up for.

I love the correction of Nerlen's name followed by an immediate misspelling of Embiid's name.  Classic stuff.

Typo my friend. I know there's an element out there that actually think Nerlens first name is Nerlins because they way its pronounced. Kid has been fighting that misspelling since his sophomore year in high school.

[Tr1boy]

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

I agree on its face that is silly, but if you look at the great centers (even the second tier HOFers) they all had wing spans greater than 7'3".  Even a guy like Alonzo Mourning who was only 6'10" had a 7'4" wing span. 

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

As silly as you think, it matters. Also okafor while big is not really athletic or explosive  which doesnt help.

List me some exceptional centers in the nba that has 7'0 to 7'2 wingspan. Only one that I know is chandler but makes it up with his leaping ability.

Don't get me wrong , Okafor's most likely not going to be anything like the rim protector we need, I'm just saying that he's a great prospect.


Your argument TB16, is, essentially, the same as if I were to say 'Embiid's not a great prospect because he was born outside of the US, and only four foreign nationals have ever won the NBA MVP award'.


Also using your beloved DraftExpress, Bogut's got a 7'3 wingspan, and he's a great defensive player. A'mare's got a 7'1 wingspan, and if you don't think he played Center for the Suns, you never watched them. Noah's wingspan is 7'1. You already listed Chandler.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements.php?page=&year=All&source=All&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=5&sort=5

Bogut is a second tier center at best. And yeah , maybe if he had a few inches longer wingspan he would be that much better. Also im a big fan of noah but he has issues vs premium longer guys and also has little ability to operate in the post in the offensive end bc he cant get shots/hook shots over

[nickagneta]

I'll take Noah as my starting center any time, short wingspan or not.

And if Bogut wasn't so injury prone and those past injuries didn't effect his current play, him too. Bogut before his serious injury in Milwaukee was starting to bloom into a great center on both sides of the ball.

[D.o.s.]

I'll take Noah as my starting center any time, short wingspan or not.

And if Bogut wasn't so injury prone and those past injuries didn't effect his current play, him too. Bogut before his serious injury in Milwaukee was starting to bloom into a great center on both sides of the ball.

TP Nick.

Triboy, you realize Noah is playing at a historically MVP level for centers this season, right? He is, hands down, the best center in the league right now.

But, yeah, feel free to bail on him because his wingspan is an inch too short.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

I agree on its face that is silly, but if you look at the great centers (even the second tier HOFers) they all had wing spans greater than 7'3".  Even a guy like Alonzo Mourning who was only 6'10" had a 7'4" wing span. 

That seems like a silly reason to disqualify someone like Okafor, who is definitely a great looking prospect (even if he 'only' has a 7'3 wingspan)

As silly as you think, it matters. Also okafor while big is not really athletic or explosive  which doesnt help.

List me some exceptional centers in the nba that has 7'0 to 7'2 wingspan. Only one that I know is chandler but makes it up with his leaping ability.

Don't get me wrong , Okafor's most likely not going to be anything like the rim protector we need, I'm just saying that he's a great prospect.


Your argument TB16, is, essentially, the same as if I were to say 'Embiid's not a great prospect because he was born outside of the US, and only four foreign nationals have ever won the NBA MVP award'.


Also using your beloved DraftExpress, Bogut's got a 7'3 wingspan, and he's a great defensive player. A'mare's got a 7'1 wingspan, and if you don't think he played Center for the Suns, you never watched them. Noah's wingspan is 7'1. You already listed Chandler.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements.php?page=&year=All&source=All&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=5&sort=5

Bogut is a second tier center at best. And yeah , maybe if he had a few inches longer wingspan he would be that much better. Also im a big fan of noah but he has issues vs premium longer guys and also has little ability to operate in the post in the offensive end bc he cant get shots/hook shots over

I'm sorry, I can't let this go...

Bogut is a top 10 Center who's being criminally misused in Golden State.

There are only a few Centers who not only can anchor the defense, but makes a difference for the whole team. Offensively he's solid. We forgot how decent of a post player he is because (stupid) Mark Jackson relegated him to just nothing more than a guy who protect the paint (doing it pretty well) and cuts his minutes in favor of matching up against small ball.

And he did not need longer wingspan and elite athleticism to average 11 rebounds and lead the league in blocks in '10 - '11.

[BigAlTheFuture]

First...Its Nerlens not Nerlins

Second, any Enbiid speculation needs to be tempered until the doctors get a look at his medical records and see what was wrong with his back. If it was a severely strained muscle, that's one thing, if it was anything else, well, Sullinger and Noel fell like crazy because of injury. Embiid might as well.

Word will leak after the NBA doctors get a hold of Embiid. Let's see what comes of that.

In the mean time, no, I don't do the deal. I like Embiid less than Wiggins. It would be Wiggins I would trade up for.

You were very down on Wiggins when the season started. Glad to see you changed your mind. I would love for us to get Wiggins. He's 1st on my draft board.

Embiid does scare me a bit. So much potential, but a lot of risk as well.

[Tr1boy]

I'll take Noah as my starting center any time, short wingspan or not.

And if Bogut wasn't so injury prone and those past injuries didn't effect his current play, him too. Bogut before his serious injury in Milwaukee was starting to bloom into a great center on both sides of the ball.

TP Nick.

Triboy, you realize Noah is playing at a historically MVP level for centers this season, right? He is, hands down, the best center in the league right now.

But, yeah, feel free to bail on him because his wingspan is an inch to short.

Noah has limitations but yeah playing great for a C. Like chandler he makes up lack of exceptional length with his explosiveness

Which 2015 centers fall under this category? Even if there are what are the chances they become like noah or chandler?

Lets not take a chance , i mean likely we wont be this bad next season anways to get a high pick and try to hit a home run with embiid.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'll take Noah as my starting center any time, short wingspan or not.

And if Bogut wasn't so injury prone and those past injuries didn't effect his current play, him too. Bogut before his serious injury in Milwaukee was starting to bloom into a great center on both sides of the ball.

TP Nick.

Triboy, you realize Noah is playing at a historically MVP level for centers this season, right? He is, hands down, the best center in the league right now.

But, yeah, feel free to bail on him because his wingspan is an inch to short.

Lets not take a chance , i mean likely we wont be this bad next season anways to get a high pick and try to hit a home run with embiid.

If we are going to play it safe and steady next year, we should have never traded KG and Paul. It's not like we're taking shots in the dark. Of course scouts and FO has to do their due diligence. But when there are high level prospects like these, and you are rebuilding, you gamble. We have the chips for it. Go hard!