What kind of trade package do you think it would take for us to get Love?

[sofutomygaha]

To land Love, you'd need:

Green
Bass
Sullinger
2 first round picks (This years #1 unprotected and next years #1)

I don't understand why you are muddying the waters with two contracts that we aren't 100% sure can be considered assets.

Avery Bradley is not likewise not an asset for non-contending team, because he is only signed through the end of this season.

I'm not the first to say it, but the most sensible answer is Sullinger and two unprotected, likely high first round picks (such as our next two).

Other concoctions involving Rondo, who is an asset at his current price and a clear upgrade over Rubio, are also possible.

[Fafnir]

To land Love, you'd need:

Green
Bass
Sullinger
2 first round picks (This years #1 unprotected and next years #1)

Highly unlikely Ainge would ever give up this year's pick, unprotected, for Kevin Love. Certainly not in addition to Sully and next year's pick. Massive overpay.

I could see doing three lesser, protected 1sts though. Maybe this year's Brooklyn pick (top 5 protected), next year's Celtics pick (top 5 protected), and the Clippers pick.

I can see him doing it, but only after the lottery and determining its not going to be high enough to grab what he views as all-nba talent.

The C's would never have moved their pick in the Oden/Durant draft unprotected before the lottery. Afterwards the fifth pick was out the door for Allen after he failed to move it for KG/Marion (if all the rumors were true which I think have been reasonably confirmed)

[sofutomygaha]

By the way, I'm intrigued by this roster construction some of you have suggested involving a starting 5 of Rondo, Bradley, (insert 2014 first rounder), Love, and Asik.

I'm not convinced that this can be done without leaving our own cupboard completely bare for some future draft, but I agree that it isn't outside the realm of possibility.

I could see this as a Garnett-Allen-like plan B. Draft day may very well come, and our front office may very well decide that they'd rather trade the pick if it doesn't like them up to hire Embiid or Parker. In that scenario, draft day 2014 would see us trade our high pick (in the Wiggins/Gordon/Exum range) along with Sullinger and perhaps one of our Nets picks to Minnesota. We might use our lesser 1st round Hawks/Nets pick on a mid-round wing like Doug McDermott, James Young, or Glen Robinson III.

Asik really shouldn't cost us more than, say, Jeff Green and our 2015 1st rounder from LA.

My question to you guys is this- do you like this outcome better than winning the draft lottery and bringing on Embiid or Parker?

[LooseCannon]

But Rondo will make Love a even superstar.

Love has always been able to get his own -- without Rubio and without Rondo. Pairing Love with Rondo does nothing to address Love's actual deficiencies, mostly related to the fact he can't defend the proverbial chair.

That is why you get a defensive Center to mask his deficiencies...

I don't really believe in the idea of getting an above-average defender to mask the deficiencies of a below-average defender.  A modern defense is all about rotating and help defense, so a defense featuring four good defenders and one horrible one will collapse if the bad defender is consistently out of position so that it is only as strong as its weakest link.

[LarBrd33]

Seeing as Love is going to the Lakers, LA should be able to make a pretty good package surrounding their 2014 Top 5 pick.  They have the cap space to absorb salary or they can just sign Melo/LeBron with their cap space and trade Nash's expiring contract, the 2014 1st rounder and a couple other young assets. 

Kobe/Love/LeBron will prob win a few titles together.

[MBunge]

Wow so much hate on Kevin Love...

Weirdly, if Love's numbers weren't quite so eye-popping, he'd probably be even more lusted after by fans of other teams.  But when a guy puts up video game stats and still can't drag his team into the 8th seed, it puts a stink on him.

Mike

It should and shouldn't...

If your point guard can't play defense except go for steals, and is averaging 29.1% shooting FG percent, and less than 35 percent from the 3pt line then that is a problem. Its also a bigger problem when Brewer can't do anything else except play subpar defense... Pekovic is a good Center, but he isn't by any means a rim protector.

You basically have a wing that can defend, but everyone else really can't. The bench also consists of players that are below average, and rarely ever perform beyond said expectations.

Put Kevin Love on this team, with a defensive Center, and trust me we'd be at least 3-4th seed in the West.

Go back and look at some of those T-wolf teams KG dragged into 1st round playoff losses.  I don't think you can argue that KG had way more talent to work with.  I'm not even sure he had way more talent the year they made the Western conference finals.

That's the paradox with Love.  He puts up stats that make you think he's a franchise-changing player but his teams have never performed like he is one.

Mike 

[D.o.s.]

That, and if you're into labeling players by how they present themselves to the media, he's about as much of a pain to have in the locker room as 13-14 Gerald Wallace.

[gar]

finally a trade I can get behind. Would love Love; but Sota is not giving the Celtics KG and Kevin Love in the same decade would be too good to be true.

[aingeforthree]

finally a trade I can get behind. Would love Love; but Sota is not giving the Celtics KG and Kevin Love in the same decade would be too good to be true.

If the package is good enough, they have to consider it regardless of the past.

Green, Bass, Sullinger, & two first's would be extremely hard to pass up.

After Ainge gets love, he can concentrate on Hayward in  the offseason, & also look for a package to get his defensive minded Center.

Rondo
Hayward
Love
Asik

Good starting point for #18.

[moiso]

Wow so much hate on Kevin Love...

Weirdly, if Love's numbers weren't quite so eye-popping, he'd probably be even more lusted after by fans of other teams.  But when a guy puts up video game stats and still can't drag his team into the 8th seed, it puts a stink on him.

Mike

It should and shouldn't...

If your point guard can't play defense except go for steals, and is averaging 29.1% shooting FG percent, and less than 35 percent from the 3pt line then that is a problem. Its also a bigger problem when Brewer can't do anything else except play subpar defense... Pekovic is a good Center, but he isn't by any means a rim protector.

You basically have a wing that can defend, but everyone else really can't. The bench also consists of players that are below average, and rarely ever perform beyond said expectations.

Put Kevin Love on this team, with a defensive Center, and trust me we'd be at least 3-4th seed in the West.

Go back and look at some of those T-wolf teams KG dragged into 1st round playoff losses.  I don't think you can argue that KG had way more talent to work with.  I'm not even sure he had way more talent the year they made the Western conference finals.

That's the paradox with Love.  He puts up stats that make you think he's a franchise-changing player but his teams have never performed like he is one.

Mike

That western conference finals team was way more talented.  Cassel, KG, Sprewell, and Szserbiak all in their primes.  Not even comparable.  Some of those first round loss teams were pretty weak though.

[Monkhouse]

If we got Love, and somehow managed to get Sanders that team would seriously be hard to stop. Sanders/Love would be gobbling every board in sight.

It just depends on what SF/SG we have. I would hope Bradley would be our SG, but we'd need a defensive/aggressive take it to the paint kind of guy.

If we could get someone like MKG.

My realistic pipe dream.

Rondo
Bradley
MKG
Love
Sanders

[D.o.s.]

Not enough spacing--you'd need a good shooter at the 3/SF slot, I think.

[kozlodoev]

If we got Love, and somehow managed to get Sanders that team would seriously be hard to stop. Sanders/Love would be gobbling every board in sight.

It just depends on what SF/SG we have. I would hope Bradley would be our SG, but we'd need a defensive/aggressive take it to the paint kind of guy.

If we could get someone like MKG.

My realistic pipe dream.

Rondo
Bradley
MKG
Love
Sanders

Why would you pipe-dream for a 35-win team?

[Monkhouse]

If we got Love, and somehow managed to get Sanders that team would seriously be hard to stop. Sanders/Love would be gobbling every board in sight.

It just depends on what SF/SG we have. I would hope Bradley would be our SG, but we'd need a defensive/aggressive take it to the paint kind of guy.

If we could get someone like MKG.

My realistic pipe dream.

Rondo
Bradley
MKG
Love
Sanders

Why would you pipe-dream for a 35-win team?

Was thinking we could move Bradley for a better shooter. I think MKG will have the potential to be a better and quicker mix of Shawn Marion/Gerald Wallace in their primes. A very agile, strong defending kind of glue guy that every championship team needs.

[sofutomygaha]

If we got Love, and somehow managed to get Sanders that team would seriously be hard to stop. Sanders/Love would be gobbling every board in sight.

It just depends on what SF/SG we have. I would hope Bradley would be our SG, but we'd need a defensive/aggressive take it to the paint kind of guy.

If we could get someone like MKG.

My realistic pipe dream.

Rondo
Bradley
MKG
Love
Sanders

Why would you pipe-dream for a 35-win team?

Agreed. That is a nice defensive and rebounding team, but the offense is going to be pretty limited.