Where is the love for Olynyk?

[Tr1boy]

Ko is not like divac. Divac had more length, was more physical but had less quickness.

KO is similar to brad miller in terms of skillset. Same kind of body also(narrow shoulders).

I hope he becomes as good as miller. Miller had a long career

Per the eye test, I think Brad Miller was much, much better at finishing around the rim and in traffic.


Divac was faster than KO, as good if not better at passing, and not a total liability on defense.

Like I said, if Olynyk hits JVh Divac status, I'll be pumped.

Diva  was not faster nor had better agility. KO would beat him from one end of the court to the other. For pnr, he can spin quicker into the basket and move side to side better

I never said miller and ko are exactly the same. But similar. Miller btw was not a top rebounder and learned to finish around the basket . He scored/operated alot of the time, on top of the perimeter like KO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwDwG6t8AIw

YOUTUBE BATTLE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6xa_Pldz8c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGf14CyrcJM
(young Divac at about the halfway point)

Does divac even run? He is like a statue out there. KO is constantly active

[Celtics4ever]

KO is soft and plays soft.  He is a finesse player folks.  Divacs was not.

[Tr1boy]

KO is soft and plays soft.  He is a finesse player folks.  Divacs was not.

Jeff green is soft. KO is not

[Celtics4ever]

Jeff green is soft. KO is not

They both are soft as wet kleenex.

[BrianZag]

I think Klynyk is starting to find himself as an NBA player.  I'm hoping he can continue to improve over the rest of the season. 

He looks to have lost a little of the baby fat.   I think he still needs a lot of work on his body though.  It can only help him.

I keep seeing people talk about his baby fat here. He had 6.65% body fat at the combine. That's extremely lean. He will never be more lean than he was when he came into the league. The only thing he can do is put on muscle (or lose muscle or put on fat).

[D.o.s.]

I think Klynyk is starting to find himself as an NBA player.  I'm hoping he can continue to improve over the rest of the season. 

He looks to have lost a little of the baby fat.   I think he still needs a lot of work on his body though.  It can only help him.

I keep seeing people talk about his baby fat here. He had 6.65% body fat at the combine. That's extremely lean. He will never be more lean than he was when he came into the league. The only thing he can do is put on muscle (or lose muscle or put on fat).

Do you guys think he's going to start in on the HGH after his 4th drug test?

[Tr1boy]

I think Klynyk is starting to find himself as an NBA player.  I'm hoping he can continue to improve over the rest of the season. 

He looks to have lost a little of the baby fat.   I think he still needs a lot of work on his body though.  It can only help him.

I keep seeing people talk about his baby fat here. He had 6.65% body fat at the combine. That's extremely lean. He will never be more lean than he was when he came into the league. The only thing he can do is put on muscle (or lose muscle or put on fat).

He needs to get to 4-5 percent to help with his quickness and provide a little more lift.

Cody Zeller is at 4.75.

[gar]

He is slooooooooow. Toooo Sloooooooow! He can bulk up all he wants. He is a great passer and has great instincts around the basket on offense. But on defense he is consistently waaaay behind the play on rebounds on blocks and on positioning.

[Tr1boy]

He is slooooooooow. Toooo Sloooooooow! He can bulk up all he wants. He is a great passer and has great instincts around the basket on offense. But on defense he is consistently waaaay behind the play on rebounds on blocks and on positioning.

He is not slow. The issue is, he is not boxing out properly. With added strength it could possibly help

I think another issue is, Olynyk is not mentality strong this year or naturally.  One bad play, one blocked shot etc. his energy seems to sap down. When he is on a roll, he plays with more energy.  This is something he has to learn to deal with as a rookie. He has to focus better

[BrianZag]

I think Klynyk is starting to find himself as an NBA player.  I'm hoping he can continue to improve over the rest of the season. 

He looks to have lost a little of the baby fat.   I think he still needs a lot of work on his body though.  It can only help him.

I keep seeing people talk about his baby fat here. He had 6.65% body fat at the combine. That's extremely lean. He will never be more lean than he was when he came into the league. The only thing he can do is put on muscle (or lose muscle or put on fat).

He needs to get to 4-5 percent to help with his quickness and provide a little more lift.

Cody Zeller is at 4.75.

Ok lets say Kelly loses 1.9% of his body fat and gets down to 4.75%. That is a 4.5lb difference. I'm not going to get into the math but the difference in quickness and explosion at 238 lbs vs. 233.5lbs is not much. The best way for Kelly to become more explosive is to work on plyometrics and training his nervous system with high intensity weight training.

Of course, this is assuming that his body could even handle getting to 4.75% body fat in the first place, which most people could not do healthily. 4.75% body fat is extremely low.

Anyways, my main point is that Kelly is not chubby and does not have baby fat, as some people here seem to think

[BrianZag]

I have a question for all of you good folks!

I am wondering, what exactly does Kelly keep doing to earn more playing time? About 3 weeks ago he had his best game of the year (the 21 point game) and then the next 2 games he only got 8 minutes each. He finally got an abundance of playing time again 3 games ago and had by far his best game of the year. Then the next two games his pt steadily decreased again. What is happening to cause him to lose playing time?

I'm asking this because I'm a Gonzaga fan and I don't get a chance to watch your games. Is he rebounding poorly? Getting worked on defense? Not fitting into the flow offensively? His stats per minute seem like they have consistently stayed pretty good despite the limited playing to. So what is it!

Thanks in advance!

[KJR]

Defense.  If he wants more time, he needs to dramatically improve his defense.

He's slow, but he's also not in a good stance.  When he's switching on smaller players on the perimeter he needs to bend his knees and back off a bit.  They drive right by him and then he reaches and gets touch fouls.  That causes him to back off more because he doesn't want to foul out.

It's paradoxical, but if he'd body up big men early in the play and keep them in front of him, he'd reach less and get fewer fouls.  When he gives them space to spin, he reaches and fouls.

As stated, he needs to develop muscle; but he also needs to develop lateral foot-speed big time.  Brian Doo needs to work with him on quickness drills.

He and Pressey are actually pretty good on offense.  But they are both terrible at this point on defense, and it's cost us a couple games.

[Boris Badenov]

I have a question for all of you good folks!

I am wondering, what exactly does Kelly keep doing to earn more playing time? About 3 weeks ago he had his best game of the year (the 21 point game) and then the next 2 games he only got 8 minutes each. He finally got an abundance of playing time again 3 games ago and had by far his best game of the year. Then the next two games his pt steadily decreased again. What is happening to cause him to lose playing time?

I'm asking this because I'm a Gonzaga fan and I don't get a chance to watch your games. Is he rebounding poorly? Getting worked on defense? Not fitting into the flow offensively? His stats per minute seem like they have consistently stayed pretty good despite the limited playing to. So what is it!

Thanks in advance!

I think the short answer is: defense.

These numbers from 82games.com are pretty informative:

http://www.82games.com/1314/1314BOS.HTM

He is getting slaughtered in "net production" - which means when he's on the court his counterpart is basically lighting it up, while he's not offsetting that with his own offense. The on-court/off-court splits show the same thing if you click on his detailed player profile - the Celts are +2 pts per 100 possessions with him on the court, but give up -4 on the other end.

Synergy numbers further show that he's getting used pretty hard in the post:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10219783/kelly-olynyk-struggling-settle-boston-celtics?src=mobile

I think the other thing has been that we have a crowded frontcourt where no players have really distinguished themselves, so Stevens has been mixing things up on a fairly regular basis in terms of lineups and minutes.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Dude is deep on the chart imo. Bass is the best player of the 3, and Hump is the best professional athlete - if that makes sense - and deserves the most minutes. I don't see how/why he gets minutes. He has a lot of work cut out for him to meet expectations on the offensive end... and defensively, it's never gonna happen.

[colincb]

I have a question for all of you good folks!

I am wondering, what exactly does Kelly keep doing to earn more playing time? About 3 weeks ago he had his best game of the year (the 21 point game) and then the next 2 games he only got 8 minutes each. He finally got an abundance of playing time again 3 games ago and had by far his best game of the year. Then the next two games his pt steadily decreased again. What is happening to cause him to lose playing time?

I'm asking this because I'm a Gonzaga fan and I don't get a chance to watch your games. Is he rebounding poorly? Getting worked on defense? Not fitting into the flow offensively? His stats per minute seem like they have consistently stayed pretty good despite the limited playing to. So what is it!

Thanks in advance!

I have a different answer. Showcasing.

Celtics have 4-5 PFs in Humphreys, Bass, Sullinger (a 4/5), Green (a 3/4), and KO.  The vets can all play, thus they they need to thin out the ranks via trades before KO will get more PT. [AND they are definitely looking to make trades having made 2 recently]. He's done fine offensively for a rookie.  Defensively, he's lost, but rookie big men often are - he's not hopeless by any means.