Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?

[sed522002]

Rondo is a competitor and wants to be the man. What better way than be the face of storied franchise? Pierce even made a comment that he doesn't feel sorry for Rondo's predicament with the team because he get's to be the leader now. This is what he wants...for now.

Pierce recently told Yahoo Sports that he doesn't feel sorry for Rondo because he is now the face of the Celtics

[Clench123]

And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

it's mostly this actually, Boston never really had a chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I622KDc_Q3o

This video is your reason for him leaving?  LOL!!!! 

Going with that absurd logic, KG should be playing in China now as well and Paul Pierce should've been a Laker long time ago

The video was in response to Bleed1989 saying, "What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?"

If you go back to the first page, you will see the reasons I give for him potentially leaving.

I read your reasons.  Not really saying much.  Nothing but speculations

[Goldstar88]

  They have plenty of trade assets and Rondo's never shown any interest in leaving the team.

Draft picks somewhat, player assets (other then Rondo) not so much... the pick from LAC is going to be trash, Brooklyn is starting to turn things around, and Rondo's going to make the Celts pick trash for this year. Rondo hasn't been on a team this bad in a long time... Should be interesting to see how he adjusts.

  We have plenty of assets, take a look at the roster. And we've had plenty of posts over the years about how we had to trade Rondo because of how he'd react poorly to being in trade rumors. I don't see this as anything different.

I don't see much other than maybe Sullinger. Crawford and AB are nice role players. Celtics are going to land an All star with those guys and a 1st?

  "A 1st"? You might not realize this but we have 9 1st rounders in the next 5 years.

We do! really!!!??? Thanks!

[Goldstar88]

And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

it's mostly this actually, Boston never really had a chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I622KDc_Q3o

This video is your reason for him leaving?  LOL!!!! 

Going with that absurd logic, KG should be playing in China now as well and Paul Pierce should've been a Laker long time ago

The video was in response to Bleed1989 saying, "What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?"

If you go back to the first page, you will see the reasons I give for him potentially leaving.

I read your reasons.  Not really saying much.  Nothing but speculations

Of course it's speculation, What would Rondo do? What would Danny do? What's wrong with speculating? Will be exciting to see how it all plays out.

[European NBA fan]

I fail to understand how it is a bad thing, if Rondo makes this team so much better. For that to happen, two conditions must be met: 1) Rondo is 100 percent healthy and maybe even better than before the injury and 2) he works well under Stevens' system and has good chemistry with an almost brand new team. And meeting these conditions would be good news, both if you want to keep Rondo and if you want to trade him.

[pokeKingCurtis]

  They have plenty of trade assets and Rondo's never shown any interest in leaving the team.

Draft picks somewhat, player assets (other then Rondo) not so much... the pick from LAC is going to be trash, Brooklyn is starting to turn things around, and Rondo's going to make the Celts pick trash for this year. Rondo hasn't been on a team this bad in a long time... Should be interesting to see how he adjusts.

  We have plenty of assets, take a look at the roster. And we've had plenty of posts over the years about how we had to trade Rondo because of how he'd react poorly to being in trade rumors. I don't see this as anything different.

I don't see much other than maybe Sullinger. Crawford and AB are nice role players. Celtics are going to land an All star with those guys and a 1st?

  "A 1st"? You might not realize this but we have 9 1st rounders in the next 5 years.

We do! really!!!??? Thanks!

What? I don't get it. Why the snark?

He literally just stated the fact that we have assets.

[Clench123]

And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

it's mostly this actually, Boston never really had a chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I622KDc_Q3o

This video is your reason for him leaving?  LOL!!!! 

Going with that absurd logic, KG should be playing in China now as well and Paul Pierce should've been a Laker long time ago

The video was in response to Bleed1989 saying, "What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?"

If you go back to the first page, you will see the reasons I give for him potentially leaving.

I read your reasons.  Not really saying much.  Nothing but speculations

Of course it's speculation, What would Rondo do? What would Danny do? What's wrong with speculating? Will be exciting to see how it all plays out.

Only thing wrong here are your reasons for your speculations.  They are ridiculous

[Goldstar88]

And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

it's mostly this actually, Boston never really had a chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I622KDc_Q3o

This video is your reason for him leaving?  LOL!!!! 

Going with that absurd logic, KG should be playing in China now as well and Paul Pierce should've been a Laker long time ago

The video was in response to Bleed1989 saying, "What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?"

If you go back to the first page, you will see the reasons I give for him potentially leaving.

I read your reasons.  Not really saying much.  Nothing but speculations

Of course it's speculation, What would Rondo do? What would Danny do? What's wrong with speculating? Will be exciting to see how it all plays out.

Only thing wrong here are your reasons for your speculations.  They are ridiculous

Which part is ridiculous? All of it?

[Clench123]

And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

it's mostly this actually, Boston never really had a chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I622KDc_Q3o

This video is your reason for him leaving?  LOL!!!! 

Going with that absurd logic, KG should be playing in China now as well and Paul Pierce should've been a Laker long time ago

The video was in response to Bleed1989 saying, "What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?"

If you go back to the first page, you will see the reasons I give for him potentially leaving.

I read your reasons.  Not really saying much.  Nothing but speculations

Of course it's speculation, What would Rondo do? What would Danny do? What's wrong with speculating? Will be exciting to see how it all plays out.

Only thing wrong here are your reasons for your speculations.  They are ridiculous

Which part is ridiculous? All of it?

Pretty much.  The notion that that video you posted suggest any affinity for NY or LA is ridiculous...(ignoring the fact that Rondo has never said anything at all to suggest this.  As a matter of fact, I would go as far as to say that he can't stand both teams.  Not as much as he hates Miami but still.)  So...drawing a wild conclusion off of a fashion commercial is utterly ridiculous.  He has also stated (when he didn't have to) over and over how he never wanted to leave.  He has a championship ring already, he's a big fish now in a small pond, he loves the city, he loves the coach, and has stated a straightforwardness relationship with Danny and the management.  The only logical speculation and conclusion to draw from all of that as of now that is that he's not leaving.  Nothing has suggested otherwise. Nothing

[crimson_stallion]

I think this is all a bit silly.

To this point Rondo has been amazingly well mannered considering he is a multi-time all star going through a rebuild with only a couple of years of contract yet. 

Rondo reminds me of KG in terms of his personality - he's big on pride and loyalty. Up until now people have talked about Rondo as the best player on his team, but there have always been debates. So many people out there still talk about Rondo being a guy who only was successful as he was because he played with Pierce and KG (and previously, Ray).  I think Rondo has too much pride to just leave and join another group of stars elsewhere, which would only re-enforce that view in the eyes of the public...the view that he's not good enough to build around and not good enough to carry a team.

I think Rondo wants to prove that this isn't true.  I think he wants this to be (unquestionably) HIS team.  I think he wants to prove that he can be a leader and elevate his game, and make others around him better (even when those guys aren't All Stars themselves).

People here are talking about Rondo ditching boston and joining other stars elsewhere, but he has not shown even the slightest sign that he has any such intention.  Absolutly, you never know what's going on in a player's mind..but he has said all the right things, and he has stuck by the team and shown his face on the bench at every game, even to the point of being willing to play in the D league to get himself into game shape (something that chumps like Royce White have refused to lower themselves to). 

I think that too this point Rondo has been the ultimate reflection of loyalty and professionlism.  If he does decide to sign elsewhere than he has that right, and I wouldn't hold it against him because unlike the Carmello's he hasn't gone and created a media situation over his upcoming free agency, he hasn't gone creating stories, hasn't gone causing a stir.  He's been professional the whole way.

I say we owe him the benefit of the doubt unless he shows us otherwise.

[D.o.s.]

If he does decide to sign elsewhere than he has that right, and I wouldn't hold it against him because unlike the Carmello's he hasn't gone and created a media situation over his upcoming free agency, he hasn't gone creating stories, hasn't gone causing a stir.  He's been professional the whole way.

I say we owe him the benefit of the doubt unless he shows us otherwise.

He's got a whole 'nother year to start leaking to the press.

I agree with you, though, that there's really no reason to worry about him leaving until, and if, he leaves.

[LilRip]

I really don't see Rondo demanding to be traded or wanting out via FA. Unless DA wants him out, he's here to stay.

Admittedly though, I've been pushing to trade him mainly because he's our best asset and he could wreck our chances at getting a good pick (1 extra win could mean the difference in terms of lottery odds). Don't get me wrong. I dont mean that as I want the team to do poorly, but honestly, a 24-win team and a 25-win team is pretty much the same team. However, when it comes to lottery odds and with how things are going in the league, 24-wins vs 25-wins might be significant.

[chambers]

I wonder how many stars send Rondo text messages and call him regarding 'teaming up' and creating a super team.

  Probably quite a few. An aside, but I'd guess that the bulk of the posters (who have been on celticsblog for a long time) who are saying we need to trade Rondo because the other stars are trying to convince him to join their teams were telling us a year or two ago that we needed to trade Rondo in order to attract free agents because he was hated throughout the league and people didn't want to be on his team.

Just to be clear- I'm not one of those who ever said we need to trade Rondo for any reason- although there have been a few of those bizare 'trade him because no one wants to play with him' topics.
I always like to look at both sides of the argument and the reasons for both (the positives and negatives etc).

I've come to the point now where I realize that if he is traded it's going to be because that was the best move for our team, and other avenues were exhausted or simply not available.

[Vermont Green]

I feel that Rondo is sincere when he says he wants to stay as of right now.  I believe he does have some loyalty to the Celtics and I also believe that he believes he can be the next great Celtics player to lead a team to the promised land.

All that said, if I were the GM, I would be worried about the very real possibility that we may not be able to sign him and he walks.  If "build around Rondo" is your plan, that plan has one very real risk factor (actually more than one).  The most obvious is that some GM offers him silly money (I do not believe we can just max out Rondo) and Rondo decides to leave.

You could also decide to go all in for Rondo and extend him this off season (or maybe there are already discussions) but then what happens if the knee becomes something that limits him.

So Rondo I suspect wants to come back, play well, and have the team built around him.  If we are bad this year, that probably won't affect his mindset but what if we still stink next year and Rondo struggles due to physical adjustments and it just not being as easy on a bad team?

I am not in favor of rushing out and trading Rondo.  If we get a silly good offer, I am not opposed to taking it.  Chances are, we get into next season and see what we have for a team and how Rondo plays before the options of moving Rondo or risk losing Rondo or extend Rondo gets resolved.

[Celtics4ever]

Trade him now or potentially let him walk for nothing?

Play him, if he is healthy and has improved his jumper keep him, period.  He always was a jumpshot away from being a top five point guard.   I have heard Tommy say that his jumper is vastly improved.  If this is true and he comes back at a high level he could be lethal to our opponents.   It's a huge "IF" though.