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Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?
« on: January 11, 2014, 04:51:53 PM »

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First, I'm worried that when Rondo comes back before the All-Star break, the team should be good enough to make the playoffs as a 6-8 seed. Goodbye lottery ;)

Second, Rondo is a free agent after next year. Will he sign an extension or leave for a more desirable location like LA, A team that will have plenty of cash to sign him after next season concludes.

Even if the Celtics are able to draft Parker or Wiggins, will this be enough to entice Rondo to stay? hes turning 28 this Feb, He's 10 years older than those incoming rookies. Will he be willing to wait a few years for these guys to really develop and for Danny to put enough talent around them to be in contention again?

The Celtics Roster needs to be completely rebuilt, they are unable to draw big names in free agency, and I don't feel like they have the assets to pull off a trade like they did in 2008. If there was a big trade, that incoming star player would need to sign a contract extension as well....

Trade him now or potentially let him walk for nothing?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 08:05:51 PM by Goldstar88 »
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Re: Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 05:00:31 PM »

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  They have plenty of trade assets and Rondo's never shown any interest in leaving the team.

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 05:07:46 PM »

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  They have plenty of trade assets and Rondo's never shown any interest in leaving the team.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 05:11:15 PM »

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  They have plenty of trade assets and Rondo's never shown any interest in leaving the team.

Draft picks somewhat, player assets (other then Rondo) not so much... the pick from LAC is going to be trash, Brooklyn is starting to turn things around, and Rondo's going to make the Celts pick trash for this year. Rondo hasn't been on a team this bad in a long time... Should be interesting to see how he adjusts.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 08:07:14 PM by Goldstar88 »
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 05:15:25 PM »

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I doubt Rondo will leave, and his return won't be that much help early on...he still need to get used to the pace again.

However

Say we get a top 5 pick (not top 1 or even top 2)

Will you trade Rondo and assets for the first pick?

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 05:17:02 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 05:23:37 PM »

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I doubt Rondo will leave, and his return won't be that much help early on...he still need to get used to the pace again.

However

Say we get a top 5 pick (not top 1 or even top 2)

Will you trade Rondo and assets for the first pick?

No way. Again none of these guys are assured of being as good as Rondo anyways so why take the risk?

Re: Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 05:30:27 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Seems to love the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 08:09:11 PM by Goldstar88 »
Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 05:36:50 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

I am not Rondo.

Most of your post, is based on speculation.

1. Is there anything substantial saying Rondo "loves the glam of NY or LA"? He strikes me as quite the opposite.

2. What Rondo has done in the past has no indication of the thoughts for the rest of his career. Unless you have info that states otherwise?

3. Unless you have a crystal ball, there is no way you can tell the construction of this roster once Rondo is a FA.
3.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 05:52:54 PM »

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Trade him now or let him walk for nothing?

Neither.

Honestly, why make a panic trade now, when Rondo's stock is down? If you seriously feel that Ainge needs to acquire assets for a rebuild, you keep Rondo until the best return comes along.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2014, 06:01:38 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.


They weren't in the same situation as RR is so I doubt they said those things. DH made it known he didn't want to be in Orlando after a lot of being good but not good enough, problems with the coach, and because he always wanted to be in a bigger market (or after seeing Mia wanting to do a super friends). LeBron was tired of being good but not good enough and left because of Celtics kicking that bum every season! He definitely lied about wanting out of Clev but I doubt RR would have left under those conditions, he was in a winning situation and so close to the chip a few times, Clev with LeRoid probably wins it in a couple more years but Lebron didn't want to wait. No way Danny builds a team around RR that wins as much as Broids teams did and he leaves... I don't see it. One reason is RR is not all buddy buddy with too many people around the league and also if you listen to him, he wants to be the best player on his team. Plus this is the Celtics not Clev or Orlando... a place with a loooong history of knowing how to build teams that get it done. Celtics will pay to get it done too. If anything RR will now get people to come here and team with him but it's not going to be anyone who is gonna steal his shine (who we can now afford or will be able to soon). People say RR is 28 but he has a ring, he isn't as desperate as LeBlegh or DH, he is also young enough to wait a couple seasons to get back to the promised land. We have enough assets that we aren't that far off anyway, if Danny plays it right, I believe he will.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 06:11:16 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.
why go buddy up and go somewhere else where the grass isnt always greener, bet if anything in the future he'd want to recruit a big name to Boston
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2014, 06:20:19 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

I am not Rondo.

Most of your post, is based on speculation.

1. Is there anything substantial saying Rondo "loves the glam of NY or LA"? He strikes me as quite the opposite.

2. What Rondo has done in the past has no indication of the thoughts for the rest of his career. Unless you have info that states otherwise?

3. Unless you have a crystal ball, there is no way you can tell the construction of this roster once Rondo is a FA.
3.

Of course its speculation haha and that's why it's fun! All we can do is speculate. Now to your questions:

1) He interned at GQ in New York for a summer, loves fashion. Fact. Worked out in LA in the offseason. Fact
2) Not sure what your second numbered point is referring too, vague. please specify.
3) Do you think Danny Ainge will speculate, use the information on Rondo that he does have, and make a move or sit back, not speculate, and just hope that everything works out well.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2014, 06:28:58 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

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Re: Will Rondo screw the C's, twice over?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2014, 07:13:36 PM »

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And Rondo continues to insist that all changes considered, he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
“I love it here, the fans are great here, (president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) has been straight with me, so why would I want to leave?” he said. “Why would I want out? This is a brand new start for us as a team.”

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"I don't really judge what everybody else did," Rondo said. "I've been in this situation for a long time. I don't really like change. I'm comfortable with the staff and the players. Coach and I are great, and we talk back and forth a lot."

The Celtics enter Friday night's game at Golden State with a 13-23 record and six straight losses. When asked why he would want to stay with a rebuilding Celtics franchise, Rondo answered: "Why would I not want to be? I talked to a lot of people, not necessarily about leaving, but my situation and how fortunate it is. It's a great situation for me. I'm taking another step into a leadership role."

Unless people are privy to his private conversations or inner thoughts, they can't offer anything besides speculation regarding Rondo leaving.

If you were in his shoes, would you stay? Hes accustomed to going deep in the playoffs, Is on a terrible team, Loves the glam of NY and LA, Nearing 30 yrs of age, will be one of the older players on the team.  I'm sure LBJ and Dwight fed the media similar quotes to the one you posted above.

What makes you think he loves the glam of NY and LA?  Is it his "metro" outfits?


Edit:

Sorry, I hadn't read your most recent post.  I see that it is in fact the outfits that make you think he wants to go to LA or NY. 

That's awesome.  You get a gold star!!

it's mostly this actually, Boston never really had a chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I622KDc_Q3o
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.