Today in Nets' Disasters: Lawrence Frank Let Go

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Kidd being named the coach when there were so many legit top notch coaches out there was the first sign the Nets had no idea what they were doing. Sure, getting Kidd as the coach is fine...if you're not a championship-or-bust team. Now, getting rid of one of the better assistants in the game? I think the Nets are making it up as they go along, and that's a recipe for disaster for a team that was supposed to contend with the Heat and Pacers.

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Kidd being named the coach when there were so many legit top notch coaches out there was the first sign the Nets had no idea what they were doing. Sure, getting Kidd as the coach is fine...if you're not a championship-or-bust team. Now, getting rid of one of the better assistants in the game? I think the Nets are making it up as they go along, and that's a recipe for disaster for a team that was supposed to contend with the Heat and Pacers.

I think that hindsight proves this to be true more than the premise. If Garnett and Pierce looked better, if Deron Williams and Brook Lopez were both healthy, and the Nets were 14-6, people would be talking about how smart the Kidd hiring was for the same reasons they were saying it before the season. There were a lot of reasons why it could work. Established locker room leaders, competent assistants...but when your top 2 players are in and out of the lineup and 2 of your next 3 best players are looking like shells of the guys you thought you were getting...well it's kind of hard for any coach to succeed. Would Jerry Sloan have done any better? I doubt it.

[wahz]

What happens if the Nets go on a tear similar to the one they had last year, when Avery Johnson was let go?

Do we have to admit that it was the right move?

No danger of that as they were destroyed today.

[lightspeed5]

i liked lawrence frank when he was with us. our defense was killer

[celticslove]

kidd will be fired january-february if this BKN trend continues. maybe they can hire lionel hollins or george karl then. i just don't see them turning this around unless dwill from utah returns.

[Fred Roberts]

really big fiasco right now. flaming fiasco. can't wait to see more of it. blatche is their best player!!!

[RJ87]

Kidd being named the coach when there were so many legit top notch coaches out there was the first sign the Nets had no idea what they were doing. Sure, getting Kidd as the coach is fine...if you're not a championship-or-bust team. Now, getting rid of one of the better assistants in the game? I think the Nets are making it up as they go along, and that's a recipe for disaster for a team that was supposed to contend with the Heat and Pacers.

I think that hindsight proves this to be true more than the premise. If Garnett and Pierce looked better, if Deron Williams and Brook Lopez were both healthy, and the Nets were 14-6, people would be talking about how smart the Kidd hiring was for the same reasons they were saying it before the season. There were a lot of reasons why it could work. Established locker room leaders, competent assistants...but when your top 2 players are in and out of the lineup and 2 of your next 3 best players are looking like shells of the guys you thought you were getting...well it's kind of hard for any coach to succeed. Would Jerry Sloan have done any better? I doubt it.

I disagree.

If Jason Kidd looked like he actually had some type of control or competence, people wouldn't be so harsh on him. He looks like he's in way over his head: that team doesn't run any sort of system or have any discernable philosophies in place, they can't even make adequate adjustments in game or during halftime. It's just brutal to watch.

All teams deal with injuries, but a good coach can keep his guys engaged. Its not like they go out & compete and are overmatched, they have no fight in them - it's almost as if they don't care.

As far as the Frank firing, this wreaks of Kidd being insecure. Frank already had experience coaching KG and Pierce from the time he was part of Doc's staff, I could definitely see a scenario where some of the vets may have trusted Frank a bit more. Instead of using that to his advantage, KIdd took it as a threat.

[indeedproceed]

Kidd being named the coach when there were so many legit top notch coaches out there was the first sign the Nets had no idea what they were doing. Sure, getting Kidd as the coach is fine...if you're not a championship-or-bust team. Now, getting rid of one of the better assistants in the game? I think the Nets are making it up as they go along, and that's a recipe for disaster for a team that was supposed to contend with the Heat and Pacers.

I think that hindsight proves this to be true more than the premise. If Garnett and Pierce looked better, if Deron Williams and Brook Lopez were both healthy, and the Nets were 14-6, people would be talking about how smart the Kidd hiring was for the same reasons they were saying it before the season. There were a lot of reasons why it could work. Established locker room leaders, competent assistants...but when your top 2 players are in and out of the lineup and 2 of your next 3 best players are looking like shells of the guys you thought you were getting...well it's kind of hard for any coach to succeed. Would Jerry Sloan have done any better? I doubt it.

I disagree.

If Jason Kidd looked like he actually had some type of control or competence, people wouldn't be so harsh on him. He looks like he's in way over his head: that team doesn't run any sort of system or have any discernable philosophies in place, they can't even make adequate adjustments in game or during halftime. It's just brutal to watch.

All teams deal with injuries, but a good coach can keep his guys engaged. Its not like they go out & compete and are overmatched, they have no fight in them - it's almost as if they don't care.

As far as the Frank firing, this wreaks of Kidd being insecure. Frank already had experience coaching KG and Pierce from the time he was part of Doc's staff, I could definitely see a scenario where some of the vets may have trusted Frank a bit more. Instead of using that to his advantage, KIdd took it as a threat.

I'm not saying Kidds done a good job or anything, just that their current situation is more a product of Pierce/Garnett's underwhelming start, And Williams/Kirelinko/Lopez's injuries. Without those 5 guys at full capacity they're not a very good team.

[SparzWizard]

Kidd is coaching a bunch of prima donnas, and he is one himself too.

He'll be gone by January.

[BballTim]

Kidd being named the coach when there were so many legit top notch coaches out there was the first sign the Nets had no idea what they were doing. Sure, getting Kidd as the coach is fine...if you're not a championship-or-bust team. Now, getting rid of one of the better assistants in the game? I think the Nets are making it up as they go along, and that's a recipe for disaster for a team that was supposed to contend with the Heat and Pacers.

I think that hindsight proves this to be true more than the premise. If Garnett and Pierce looked better, if Deron Williams and Brook Lopez were both healthy, and the Nets were 14-6, people would be talking about how smart the Kidd hiring was for the same reasons they were saying it before the season. There were a lot of reasons why it could work. Established locker room leaders, competent assistants...but when your top 2 players are in and out of the lineup and 2 of your next 3 best players are looking like shells of the guys you thought you were getting...well it's kind of hard for any coach to succeed. Would Jerry Sloan have done any better? I doubt it.

I disagree.

If Jason Kidd looked like he actually had some type of control or competence, people wouldn't be so harsh on him. He looks like he's in way over his head: that team doesn't run any sort of system or have any discernable philosophies in place, they can't even make adequate adjustments in game or during halftime. It's just brutal to watch.

  Everyone was calling for Spoelstra's head when the Heat got off to a bad start in 2011. It's possible the problem with the Nets is injuries, it's also possible that their age/athleticism is an issue. Coaching won't do a ton to fix either issue.

  Not saying Kidd's a good coach, just that having a different coach might not help as much as people think.

[Interceptor]

Not saying Kidd's a good coach, just that having a different coach might not help as much as people think.

Well, that's a big caveat, since Spo is actually a really good coach.

[D.o.s.]

What happens if the Nets go on a tear similar to the one they had last year, when Avery Johnson was let go?

Do we have to admit that it was the right move?

No danger of that as they were destroyed today.

Right, and as of now we're the 4th seed in the East.

Sometimes I sincerely wish that NBA information was only available twice a month until somewhere between Christmas and the All-Star break.

[guava_wrench]

  Everyone was calling for Spoelstra's head when the Heat got off to a bad start in 2011. It's possible the problem with the Nets is injuries, it's also possible that their age/athleticism is an issue. Coaching won't do a ton to fix either issue.

  Not saying Kidd's a good coach, just that having a different coach might not help as much as people think.

I agree. It is early and there have been a lot of injuries. Kidd is doing nothing to disprove those who said he isn't ready, but it is too early to say the issue is settled.

[beklog]

Kidd is doing nothing to disprove those who said he isn't ready, but it is too early to say the issue is settled.

[BballTim]

Not saying Kidd's a good coach, just that having a different coach might not help as much as people think.

Well, that's a big caveat, since Spo is actually a really good coach.

  But he certainly wasn't seen as one when the Heat didn't crush the league from the get-go.