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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2013, 10:23:50 AM »

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Even if it wasn't a partial tear, and even considering that different people heal differently, an injury in which you have torn multiple tendons destabilizes the knee considerably more.

This injury is in his right knee (the non torn one), which would make it suck even more to have an ACL injury in both knees. I hope that's not the case.
Yes, that would suck. Although all reports were he couldn't put any weight on the knee (which usually equals ACL tear).

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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2013, 10:26:07 AM »

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Even if it wasn't a partial tear, and even considering that different people heal differently, an injury in which you have torn multiple tendons destabilizes the knee considerably more.

This injury is in his right knee (the non torn one), which would make it suck even more to have an ACL injury in both knees. I hope that's not the case.
Yes, that would suck. Although all reports were he couldn't put any weight on the knee (which usually equals ACL tear).

:/

I feel for the Bulls fans and Rose. He's one of the non Celtic players that I like to watch...tough.

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2013, 10:28:43 AM »

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Iguodala went out last night with what he described as a pop in his hamstring; couldn't walk at all, apparently.

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2013, 10:34:01 AM »

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Iguodala went out last night with what he described as a pop in his hamstring; couldn't walk at all, apparently.

and Marc Gasol injured his knee  :-\

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2013, 10:47:48 AM »

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I would strongly consider trading them the following:

Rondo
Wallace

for

Boozer
Butler
Snell
Mirotic (rights to)
1st Rd Pick (Bobcats one)

I think that's great return value for Rondo. The Bobcats pick is top 10 protected this year, top 8 protected in 2015, and unprotected in 2016. Butler is a good player and in his rookie cobtract. Mirotic  is a star for Read Madrid and only 22. The Bulls think very highly of him and have been trying to bring him over for some time. We get rid of Wallace's contract and have a huge amount of cap room in the summer of 15.

NO.

Have you ever heard of Mirotic? Adding a player of his caliber, a high first rd pick from the Bobcats, Butler, and getting rid of the final year of Wallace's deal is excellent value.
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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2013, 11:07:13 AM »

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KG had a similar scare in 2009 against...Detroit? Maybe Atlanta?
When he dunked and came up hobbling without any contact.

Took a month off and was fine. Hope for Chicago's sake that the Heat don't get another easy run to the finals. Give em Indiana and Chicago at full strength for once.
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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2013, 11:19:30 AM »

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Even if it wasn't a partial tear, and even considering that different people heal differently, an injury in which you have torn multiple tendons destabilizes the knee considerably more.

This injury is in his right knee (the non torn one), which would make it suck even more to have an ACL injury in both knees. I hope that's not the case.
Yes, that would suck. Although all reports were he couldn't put any weight on the knee (which usually equals ACL tear).

:/
Actually ACL doesn't really effect weight bearing.

Scary enough it likely means he tore his ACL and did other damage.

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2013, 11:27:25 AM »

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Man,   So sorry for Rose, what a shame ,  seems like such a nice guy and all.

Rondo plays more like Jason Kid or CP3   .

CP3 I believe suffered an ACL and seems to be doing ok.    CP3 uped. His game in other areas to compensate for some lost athletic ability . 

I believe Rondo will develope. His game more like. CP3 .......not the high flying act of Rosé or D Wade ......

Now I 'm sure we won't see Rondo till sometime in 2014 ,  probably late in the season .    I ll bet everybody from friends, doctors , coaches all tell him to stay out of full speed contact for several,more months.

No reason for Rondo to even take a chance ,  with this team rebuilding .

Hope D Rose can get better ,   But he might should retire and hit TV

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2013, 11:28:15 AM »

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KG had a similar scare in 2009 against...Detroit? Maybe Atlanta?
When he dunked and came up hobbling without any contact.

Took a month off and was fine. Hope for Chicago's sake that the Heat don't get another easy run to the finals. Give em Indiana and Chicago at full strength for once.

  KG's knee definitely wasn't fine in 2009.

  Rose should probably get the Bulls to trade for TA and get his rehab secrets. How many knee surgeries did Tony have?

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2013, 11:56:58 AM »

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In fact, more than one front officer insisted that Mirotic would be the clear #1 pick if he were in this draft. Of the approximately 7 NBA personnel I talked to, none would have had him outside the top 5. Another source put him in the 5-8 range.  While it is unlikely he will be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, the spacing he provides should prove invaluable to the Bulls' offense if he can hold his own defensively. Although I have yet to see enough of him to say, at least one scout I trust described him as an intelligent team defender who should be able to execute Tom Thibodeau's schemes with aplomb. Indeed, it was his overall feel for the game at age 22 that gleaned the most praise.

So you're saying that more than one front office manager said Mirotic is better than Anthony Bennett and all of them believe he is around as good as Anthony Bennett, Otto Porter, Oladipo, Cody Zeller, and Alex Len.  And one source put him below those 5 guys.
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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2013, 12:07:12 PM »

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Saw it happen during the game.

Definitely a bummer. The game was still really good.

Worst part was the NBA Gametime coverage... with Michael Redd, who got hit with the question by the host and then sadly answered "oh, I'm the expert on knee injuries?" :-\
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« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2013, 12:12:16 PM »

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In fact, more than one front officer insisted that Mirotic would be the clear #1 pick if he were in this draft. Of the approximately 7 NBA personnel I talked to, none would have had him outside the top 5. Another source put him in the 5-8 range.  While it is unlikely he will be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, the spacing he provides should prove invaluable to the Bulls' offense if he can hold his own defensively. Although I have yet to see enough of him to say, at least one scout I trust described him as an intelligent team defender who should be able to execute Tom Thibodeau's schemes with aplomb. Indeed, it was his overall feel for the game at age 22 that gleaned the most praise.

So you're saying that more than one front office manager said Mirotic is better than Anthony Bennett and all of them believe he is around as good as Anthony Bennett, Otto Porter, Oladipo, Cody Zeller, and Alex Len.  And one source put him below those 5 guys.

That's exactly what the article states. Which is why it would be shortsighted to dismiss him without knowing much about him.

Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2013, 12:22:34 PM »

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I'm just waiting for people to suggest Rondo, Crawford, and Wallace for Rose, Heinrich, the Charlotte pick, and the rights to Mirotic.
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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2013, 12:26:26 PM »

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What does ANY of this have to do with RR???

First, RR had a PARTIAL tear, Rose tore both his ACL & MCL (sweEt, I have no idea what I'm talking about, I looked it up online... so... still DIFFERENT)!


I don't need a doctor to tell me that RR and DR don't even play the same way, RR isn't going to be doing much dunking and zig-zagging starting and stopping!

If you are going to do what's best for you based off of someone else, you're going to be in trouble. DR isn't the only one who came back from that injury anyway... so what, is RR gonna pay more attention to ONE player and ignore the successful return of others?

RR isn't going to come back before he is ready, no matter what happened to Rose. Two different players/people with 2 different injuries! RR will do what's best for him and  not based on Rose and what people think he should do, when they are on the outside (barely) looking in!


So pro-tankers, don't think that this is a good thing for you. Not saying you wish injury on anyone but that you will take it now that it's a given. No matter what, RR wasn't taking the season off anyway, I don't even know why people suggest it. Sure, he could take longer but this season has 60 more games, he is already ready for light contact action, no way they can get him to stay out the rest of the season, especially with MONTHS left to play!

I'm definitely not a pro tanker, but I think if Rose tore his ACL in his OTHER knee because he was overcompensating for the injured one(which is very prevalent when an athlete  comes back from that type of injury)than Rondo would have to mentally block that. The thing he's said the most is that he's worried about coming out playing and re-injuring himself.

 He's mentioned Rose a few times in interviews saying he did the right thing to wait. Rondo is smart and will back when he's 100% mentally and physically ready.

I would like to see this interview.  I'm not saying you're lying but Rondo, as far as I can tell, doesn't like to endorse anyone outside of the Celtics (except maybe Josh Smith), especially his direct competition.  The the only interview where he was sort of refering to Rose, he was mocking him.  He didn't even mention his name

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Re: Rose injures right knee during game
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2013, 12:28:41 PM »

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Even if it wasn't a partial tear, and even considering that different people heal differently, an injury in which you have torn multiple tendons destabilizes the knee considerably more.

This injury is in his right knee (the non torn one), which would make it suck even more to have an ACL injury in both knees. I hope that's not the case.
Yes, that would suck. Although all reports were he couldn't put any weight on the knee (which usually equals ACL tear).

:/

Guy's that tear their ACL's can usually walk after, it's the stability moving from side to side.  You see a lot of guys walk off the field or court after they tear their ACL's...like Brady, Rondo, etc...Rose's injury last night was non-contact thought and that is usually bad news...