Rose injures right knee during game (tears meniscus)

[RJ87]

Even if it wasn't a partial tear, and even considering that different people heal differently, an injury in which you have torn multiple tendons destabilizes the knee considerably more.

This injury is in his right knee (the non torn one), which would make it suck even more to have an ACL injury in both knees. I hope that's not the case.

Yes, that would suck. Although all reports were he couldn't put any weight on the knee (which usually equals ACL tear).

:/

That's false. You can actually still walk relatively well after completely or partially tearing an ACL - Rondo was actually able to continue playing against Atlanta after his partial tear. After Rose got hurt last night, he did walk on it. The non-weight bearing thing is likely more of a precaution than him not be able to.

After rewatching that play multiple times, I think it could be a tear. I'm holding out hope its not, but I'm not optimistic.

[BballTim]

I would strongly consider trading them the following:

Rondo
Wallace

for

Boozer
Butler
Snell
Mirotic (rights to)
1st Rd Pick (Bobcats one)

I think that's great return value for Rondo. The Bobcats pick is top 10 protected this year, top 8 protected in 2015, and unprotected in 2016. Butler is a good player and in his rookie cobtract. Mirotic  is a star for Read Madrid and only 22. The Bulls think very highly of him and have been trying to bring him over for some time. We get rid of Wallace's contract and have a huge amount of cap room in the summer of 15.

NO.

Have you ever heard of Mirotic? Adding a player of his caliber, a high first rd pick from the Bobcats, Butler, and getting rid of the final year of Wallace's deal is excellent value.

id rather keep 4 time all star rondo than take that platter of poo

TP for using the word "poo" in a sentence.

http://www.theteamrebound.com/2013/06/scouting-nikola-mirotic.html

***
One interesting discussion I had with various personnel at the camp was where Mirotic would go if he were in this draft. Mirotic, who was just named ACB league MVP, is a sweet shooting 6'10” 236 lbs stretch 4 whom the Bulls hope to bring over in 2014. Although Mirotic was drafted 23rd in 2011, the summer of 2014 is the operative date due to buyout issues from his European club Real Madrid. By that time, he will no longer be subject to his relatively piddling rookie salary slot since it will have been 3 years after he was drafted, so the Bulls can offer him enough to cover his buyout.


In fact, more than one front officer insisted that Mirotic would be the clear #1 pick if he were in this draft. Of the approximately 7 NBA personnel I talked to, none would have had him outside the top 5. Another source put him in the 5-8 range.  While it is unlikely he will be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, the spacing he provides should prove invaluable to the Bulls' offense if he can hold his own defensively. Although I have yet to see enough of him to say, at least one scout I trust described him as an intelligent team defender who should be able to execute Tom Thibodeau's schemes with aplomb. Indeed, it was his overall feel for the game at age 22 that gleaned the most praise.***

  Did you read any of the description of his play in the article?

[D.o.s.]

I think anyone who questions an athlete's recovery schedule has probably either never had a serious injury or has never had their ability to be active impaired by an injury.

[sed522002]

What does ANY of this have to do with RR???

First, RR had a PARTIAL tear, Rose tore both his ACL & MCL (sweEt, I have no idea what I'm talking about, I looked it up online... so... still DIFFERENT)!


I don't need a doctor to tell me that RR and DR don't even play the same way, RR isn't going to be doing much dunking and zig-zagging starting and stopping!

If you are going to do what's best for you based off of someone else, you're going to be in trouble. DR isn't the only one who came back from that injury anyway... so what, is RR gonna pay more attention to ONE player and ignore the successful return of others?

RR isn't going to come back before he is ready, no matter what happened to Rose. Two different players/people with 2 different injuries! RR will do what's best for him and  not based on Rose and what people think he should do, when they are on the outside (barely) looking in!


So pro-tankers, don't think that this is a good thing for you. Not saying you wish injury on anyone but that you will take it now that it's a given. No matter what, RR wasn't taking the season off anyway, I don't even know why people suggest it. Sure, he could take longer but this season has 60 more games, he is already ready for light contact action, no way they can get him to stay out the rest of the season, especially with MONTHS left to play!

I'm definitely not a pro tanker, but I think if Rose tore his ACL in his OTHER knee because he was overcompensating for the injured one(which is very prevalent when an athlete  comes back from that type of injury)than Rondo would have to mentally block that. The thing he's said the most is that he's worried about coming out playing and re-injuring himself.

 He's mentioned Rose a few times in interviews saying he did the right thing to wait. Rondo is smart and will back when he's 100% mentally and physically ready.

I would like to see this interview.  I'm not saying you're lying but Rondo, as far as I can tell, doesn't like to endorse anyone outside of the Celtics (except maybe Josh Smith), especially his direct competition.  The the only interview where he was sort of refering to Rose, he was mocking him.  He didn't even mention his name

He's mentioned Rose numerous times and said that he got unfair criticism

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/outside-shot/Chicago-Bulls-Derrick-Rose-Boston-Celtics-Rajon-Rondo-ACL-Injury-225942351.html

"When I'm mentally ready, I'll play," Rondo told ESPN on Monday “Until you go through this type of injury -- a lot of people gave Derrick Rose a lot of heat about not playing, or whatever the case may be -- this injury isn't easy. It's more mental when you come back, and you get around 10-11 months, it's just feeling confident. You want to feel confident, especially the type of players and competitors we are.

“Our legs are pretty much everything,” Rondo said. “We use our speed; [Rose is] very athletic, I'm athletic. And you need that mental aspect to go up and jump and come down without thinking about your leg again. Because the last jump, for myself and him, we've come down and torn our ACL."

Just google Rondo comments on Rose for more.

[LooseCannon]

I think anyone who questions an athlete's recovery schedule has probably either never had a serious injury or has never had their ability to be active impaired by an injury.

Did you say that when Jermaine O'Neal was a Celtic?

[D.o.s.]

I think anyone who questions an athlete's recovery schedule has probably either never had a serious injury or has never had their ability to be active impaired by an injury.

Did you say that when Jermaine O'Neal was a Celtic?

Yeah.

What came out from the "unnamed" sources in the organization afterwards came out exactly then, afterwards.

Generally, I assume that most professional athletes would like to be playing, and usually have a valid reason for sitting out.

[Eddie20]

I would strongly consider trading them the following:

Rondo
Wallace

for

Boozer
Butler
Snell
Mirotic (rights to)
1st Rd Pick (Bobcats one)

I think that's great return value for Rondo. The Bobcats pick is top 10 protected this year, top 8 protected in 2015, and unprotected in 2016. Butler is a good player and in his rookie cobtract. Mirotic  is a star for Read Madrid and only 22. The Bulls think very highly of him and have been trying to bring him over for some time. We get rid of Wallace's contract and have a huge amount of cap room in the summer of 15.

NO.

Have you ever heard of Mirotic? Adding a player of his caliber, a high first rd pick from the Bobcats, Butler, and getting rid of the final year of Wallace's deal is excellent value.

id rather keep 4 time all star rondo than take that platter of poo

TP for using the word "poo" in a sentence.

http://www.theteamrebound.com/2013/06/scouting-nikola-mirotic.html

***
One interesting discussion I had with various personnel at the camp was where Mirotic would go if he were in this draft. Mirotic, who was just named ACB league MVP, is a sweet shooting 6'10” 236 lbs stretch 4 whom the Bulls hope to bring over in 2014. Although Mirotic was drafted 23rd in 2011, the summer of 2014 is the operative date due to buyout issues from his European club Real Madrid. By that time, he will no longer be subject to his relatively piddling rookie salary slot since it will have been 3 years after he was drafted, so the Bulls can offer him enough to cover his buyout.


In fact, more than one front officer insisted that Mirotic would be the clear #1 pick if he were in this draft. Of the approximately 7 NBA personnel I talked to, none would have had him outside the top 5. Another source put him in the 5-8 range.  While it is unlikely he will be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, the spacing he provides should prove invaluable to the Bulls' offense if he can hold his own defensively. Although I have yet to see enough of him to say, at least one scout I trust described him as an intelligent team defender who should be able to execute Tom Thibodeau's schemes with aplomb. Indeed, it was his overall feel for the game at age 22 that gleaned the most praise.***

  Did you read any of the description of his play in the article?

Yes. The guy is 22 though. Don't rule that out. Sounds like a better version of Danilo or Anderson.

[hpantazo]

Tough, tough break for Rose and the Bulls. I was really hoping they would take out Miami.
So what the heck does Chicago do if Rose is officially Oden 2.0? They don't necessarily need an all-star PG, but they do need an all-star scorer/go to player. I don't think Mirotic and the rest of their assets can get that without trading Noah, and if you want to contend you can't trade Noah, Deng, or Boozer, you have to add to them.

Would going into rebuild be their best bet? Tank now and get a lottery pick in a good draft?

[BballTim]

I would strongly consider trading them the following:

Rondo
Wallace

for

Boozer
Butler
Snell
Mirotic (rights to)
1st Rd Pick (Bobcats one)

I think that's great return value for Rondo. The Bobcats pick is top 10 protected this year, top 8 protected in 2015, and unprotected in 2016. Butler is a good player and in his rookie cobtract. Mirotic  is a star for Read Madrid and only 22. The Bulls think very highly of him and have been trying to bring him over for some time. We get rid of Wallace's contract and have a huge amount of cap room in the summer of 15.

NO.

Have you ever heard of Mirotic? Adding a player of his caliber, a high first rd pick from the Bobcats, Butler, and getting rid of the final year of Wallace's deal is excellent value.

id rather keep 4 time all star rondo than take that platter of poo

TP for using the word "poo" in a sentence.

http://www.theteamrebound.com/2013/06/scouting-nikola-mirotic.html

***
One interesting discussion I had with various personnel at the camp was where Mirotic would go if he were in this draft. Mirotic, who was just named ACB league MVP, is a sweet shooting 6'10” 236 lbs stretch 4 whom the Bulls hope to bring over in 2014. Although Mirotic was drafted 23rd in 2011, the summer of 2014 is the operative date due to buyout issues from his European club Real Madrid. By that time, he will no longer be subject to his relatively piddling rookie salary slot since it will have been 3 years after he was drafted, so the Bulls can offer him enough to cover his buyout.


In fact, more than one front officer insisted that Mirotic would be the clear #1 pick if he were in this draft. Of the approximately 7 NBA personnel I talked to, none would have had him outside the top 5. Another source put him in the 5-8 range.  While it is unlikely he will be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, the spacing he provides should prove invaluable to the Bulls' offense if he can hold his own defensively. Although I have yet to see enough of him to say, at least one scout I trust described him as an intelligent team defender who should be able to execute Tom Thibodeau's schemes with aplomb. Indeed, it was his overall feel for the game at age 22 that gleaned the most praise.***

  Did you read any of the description of his play in the article?

Yes. The guy is 22 though. Don't rule that out. Sounds like a better version of Danilo or Anderson.

  Not much of a return for a player like Rondo though, and at 22 you're not going to see tons of improvement.

[Eddie20]

I would strongly consider trading them the following:

Rondo
Wallace

for

Boozer
Butler
Snell
Mirotic (rights to)
1st Rd Pick (Bobcats one)

I think that's great return value for Rondo. The Bobcats pick is top 10 protected this year, top 8 protected in 2015, and unprotected in 2016. Butler is a good player and in his rookie cobtract. Mirotic  is a star for Read Madrid and only 22. The Bulls think very highly of him and have been trying to bring him over for some time. We get rid of Wallace's contract and have a huge amount of cap room in the summer of 15.

NO.

Have you ever heard of Mirotic? Adding a player of his caliber, a high first rd pick from the Bobcats, Butler, and getting rid of the final year of Wallace's deal is excellent value.

id rather keep 4 time all star rondo than take that platter of poo

TP for using the word "poo" in a sentence.

http://www.theteamrebound.com/2013/06/scouting-nikola-mirotic.html

***
One interesting discussion I had with various personnel at the camp was where Mirotic would go if he were in this draft. Mirotic, who was just named ACB league MVP, is a sweet shooting 6'10” 236 lbs stretch 4 whom the Bulls hope to bring over in 2014. Although Mirotic was drafted 23rd in 2011, the summer of 2014 is the operative date due to buyout issues from his European club Real Madrid. By that time, he will no longer be subject to his relatively piddling rookie salary slot since it will have been 3 years after he was drafted, so the Bulls can offer him enough to cover his buyout.


In fact, more than one front officer insisted that Mirotic would be the clear #1 pick if he were in this draft. Of the approximately 7 NBA personnel I talked to, none would have had him outside the top 5. Another source put him in the 5-8 range.  While it is unlikely he will be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, the spacing he provides should prove invaluable to the Bulls' offense if he can hold his own defensively. Although I have yet to see enough of him to say, at least one scout I trust described him as an intelligent team defender who should be able to execute Tom Thibodeau's schemes with aplomb. Indeed, it was his overall feel for the game at age 22 that gleaned the most praise.***

  Did you read any of the description of his play in the article?

Yes. The guy is 22 though. Don't rule that out. Sounds like a better version of Danilo or Anderson.

  Not much of a return for a player like Rondo though, and at 22 you're not going to see tons of improvement.

Not straight up, no. However, we'd also be getting Butler, Cats pick, and shedding a year off of Wallace's deal.

[biggs]

Very bad news indeed for the Bulls...now they are still good to make the playoffs but bad enough to compete and will be a 1 or 2 round out. They have a dilema now whether to be in no mans land middle of nowhere team or tank, get a good position in the draft and be a better team next yr with Rose back with better players to surround him.

The competition for the freaking cHeat are dwindling and so far only the Pacers are the only team that can compete with them....[dang]ed those cHeaters, why cant something like this happen to thug Wade or LeQueen...sigh!!

won't happen to either because they juice

[Endless Paradise]

Gasol's out indefinitely with a Grade 2 MCL sprain.  It won't require surgery, but expect him to be gone for at least two months.

[LooseCannon]

So what the heck does Chicago do if Rose is officially Oden 2.0?

Rose has actually played, so maybe the better comparison is Stat 2.0

[ronaldo943]

So what the heck does Chicago do if Rose is officially Oden 2.0?

Rose has actually played, so maybe the better comparison is Stat 2.0

Wade or Penny 2.0?

[Nerf DPOY]

So what the heck does Chicago do if Rose is officially Oden 2.0?

Rose has actually played, so maybe the better comparison is Stat 2.0

Wade or Penny 2.0?

Wade? Am I missing something?