C's interested in Hayward

[Eddie20]

Wonder if we could trade the following:

Rondo
Lee

for

Hayward
2014 1st (Utah is currently 0-3)
Jefferson (expiring 11M contract)
Burke

Yes, we trade Rondo, but the return is good. Hayward is 23 and Burke is 20. Plus, adding Utah's 1st would give us 2 lottery picks in the 1st rd. In addition, we get rid of Lee's deal.

absolutley no chance of us getting a lottery pick in the 2014 draft, a top young PG prospect, and Hayward for just Rondo and Lee.

To play devil's advocate...they potentially could lose Hayward outright. Or if not, have to fork out big money to re-sign him. A tough pill to swallow for a small market team who just re-signed Favors. Burke is injured and had an awful showing in the summer. Rondo would be locked in there for at least 2 more seasons. The pick is highly valuable though, no way around that.

[Kuberski33]

Wonder if we could trade the following:

Rondo
Lee

Watching this train wreck of a roster try to close out games with Bradley and Lee makes me realize that Rondo isn't going anywhere.

[Tr1boy]

To jazz: ab, 2014 nets 1st
To celts: hayward, 2014 jazz 2nd

This is what its going to take imo to get hayward.

Utah is def going to trade him by the trade deadline. And its going to be for picks more than anything.  If they dont trade him, they have to match offers next year, have the same losing team and salary           inflexibility.  This is also better for the celts bc instead of overpaying for him, he will stay with the team on a brad stevens discount.

If we make this trade , having green and hayward on the court at the same time will be great. One guy who can drive and another who is a lights out shooter. Just having a sharpshooter opens up so much on the offensive end.

[Endless Paradise]

To jazz: ab, 2014 nets 1st
To celts: hayward, 2014 jazz 2nd

If they dont trade him, they have to match offers next year, have the same losing team and salary           inflexibility.

The "same losing team"?  Are you expecting the Celtics to stay as bad as they project to be this year?  Then why are the Jazz seemingly going to be mired in woefulness?  That's why you allow the season to play out - this is the first time the Jazz's youngsters have been given a prominent role, so who's to say Hayward won't end the season looking extremely valuable to Utah?

[indeedproceed]

If there was a trade to be made, Id guess it was Jeff Green+Non 2014 pick for Hayward before the extension deadline passed.

[crimson_stallion]

Will leave Celtics fans dreaming?

Of Hayward on a max contract?  Umm...no thanks.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Would have no problem trading for Gordon Hayward, except for one thing.

Consistently improving even though he's already been in the league for four years. Still very young, can play the SG position.

My only concern is we are going to have to pay a ton of money for him. IMO I think $10 million per year should be fine. He's a reliable shooter and scorer. Can rebound for his position and can decently create plays for others too.  Defense needs work, but I think his positives makes him worth it at around ten. Problem is, he'll be offered more than that, and I don't think he's worth $12 to $13, ESPECIALLY the max.

[chambers]

Absolute crap. Guy is an over rated mediocre role player. You don't win championships with guys like Hayward as your starting small forward. Danny wouldn't touch this guy for the money he'll command.  We are rebuilding. ..you get guys like Hayward with first round picks in the 15 to 20 range and hope they become an nba starter with trade value for some sucker team....just as the jazz would hope to do to us.
Don't buy this rumor for a second.

[Eddie20]

Absolute crap. Guy is an over rated mediocre role player. You don't win championships with guys like Hayward as your starting small forward. Danny wouldn't touch this guy for the money he'll command.  We are rebuilding. ..you get guys like Hayward with first round picks in the 15 to 20 range and hope they become an nba starter with trade value for some sucker team....just as the jazz would hope to do to us.
Don't buy this rumor for a second.

Mediocre role player?  Apparently teams think of him much higher than you do since he will be a highly sought out FA this summer and was one of the few players selected to be part of Team USA. And he was actually a top 10 pick in the draft (#9 to be exact).

This year he's averaging 16.8 ppg, 6 rpg, and 4.8 apg in just 34 mpg...and he's still only 23.

[chambers]

Absolute crap. Guy is an over rated mediocre role player. You don't win championships with guys like Hayward as your starting small forward. Danny wouldn't touch this guy for the money he'll command.  We are rebuilding. ..you get guys like Hayward with first round picks in the 15 to 20 range and hope they become an nba starter with trade value for some sucker team....just as the jazz would hope to do to us.
Don't buy this rumor for a second.

[Celtics4ever]

Guy is an over rated mediocre role player.

You do realize that he was a part of an underdog NCAA team that ran with the big dogs and almost upset him.   I do not think he is superstar but I don't think he is chopped liver either.

[BleedGreen1989]

Absolute crap. Guy is an over rated mediocre role player. You don't win championships with guys like Hayward as your starting small forward. Danny wouldn't touch this guy for the money he'll command.  We are rebuilding. ..you get guys like Hayward with first round picks in the 15 to 20 range and hope they become an nba starter with trade value for some sucker team....just as the jazz would hope to do to us.
Don't buy this rumor for a second.

Mediocre role player?  Apparently teams think of him much higher than you do since he will be a highly sought out FA this summer and was one of the few players selected to be part of Team USA. And he was actually a top 10 pick in the draft (#9 to be exact).

This year he's averaging 16.8 ppg, 6 rpg, and 4.8 apg in just 34 mpg...and he's still only 23.

...on 37% shooting, which is pretty pitiful for a SF.

[Eddie20]

Absolute crap. Guy is an over rated mediocre role player. You don't win championships with guys like Hayward as your starting small forward. Danny wouldn't touch this guy for the money he'll command.  We are rebuilding. ..you get guys like Hayward with first round picks in the 15 to 20 range and hope they become an nba starter with trade value for some sucker team....just as the jazz would hope to do to us.
Don't buy this rumor for a second.

Mediocre role player?  Apparently teams think of him much higher than you do since he will be a highly sought out FA this summer and was one of the few players selected to be part of Team USA. And he was actually a top 10 pick in the draft (#9 to be exact).

This year he's averaging 16.8 ppg, 6 rpg, and 4.8 apg in just 34 mpg...and he's still only 23.

...on 37% shooting, which is pretty pitiful for a SF.

No, on 40% shooting. However, he is 45% over his career. He's also more of a SG than a SF.

It's not just what he is now though, which is pretty good actually, but what he'll be over the life of his next contract. Clearly the arrow is pointing straight up.

[chambers]

Guy is an over rated mediocre role player.

You do realize that he was a part of an underdog NCAA team that ran with the big dogs and almost upset him.   I do not think he is superstar but I don't think he is chopped liver either.

It's a great story. If the guy is so great then the Jazz will do what they need to do to keep him.
They've already got Kanter and Williams- Hayward would be the perfect third fiddle right?

Absolute crap. Guy is an over rated mediocre role player. You don't win championships with guys like Hayward as your starting small forward. Danny wouldn't touch this guy for the money he'll command.  We are rebuilding. ..you get guys like Hayward with first round picks in the 15 to 20 range and hope they become an nba starter with trade value for some sucker team....just as the jazz would hope to do to us.
Don't buy this rumor for a second.

Mediocre role player?  Apparently teams think of him much higher than you do since he will be a highly sought out FA this summer and was one of the few players selected to be part of Team USA. And he was actually a top 10 pick in the draft (#9 to be exact).

This year he's averaging 16.8 ppg, 6 rpg, and 4.8 apg in just 34 mpg...and he's still only 23.

Again cool story but if he's so good then we'll see the Jazz fight for his honor. Guy is playing for a bum squad of rookies and is poor mans Jeff Green athletically and defensively. Not that Green is anything special but neither is Hayward- their stats are similar but Greens defensive impact is far superior.

Some sucker is going to pay over 10 million for this guy and we get Green for 8-9 million? I'll take Green all day.
Danny has plenty of mediocre trade bait already in Bradley, Green, Bass and Lee- we don't need anymore.

[action781]

I don't understand why anyone would want to pay $12-15M for Gordon Hayward.  He's a good, while unexceptional, offensive player.  On the defensive end, he's slightly below average and has nowhere near the tools to guard an elite wing in a 7 game playoff series.  He's, at best, the third best player on a championship team.  I'm not even sure if I want him as my third best considering we've seen in 6 of the last 7 years it takes a player like Chris Bosh, Manu Ginobili, Ray Allen, Andrew Bynum to be the third best player on a championship team and Gordon Hayward will never be that. 

If giving him $10M a year allows you some freedom to bolster the supporting cast, OK, I could be down for that (while there's no way Utah lets him leave for that price).  But $12-15M is not an option for me.